Fender Rumble Club

[west al]

You're a bass veteran like me MrN..51 years and still chugging away..I hope it starts coming together for me soon loll

While My Guitar Gently Weeps? NAHH!

 

[GonePlaid]

Doesn't sound like overkill to me. My first bass was a used Silvertone, but my amp was a 400 watt Peavey which needed a truck to move it around. A year later, I traded in the Silvertone on a Fender Precision. Good choice on the Rumble 100! You'll love playing through it and it gives you room to grow and it's got enough power to play with a band.

I used mine on an outdoor CC gig yesterday. Plenty of 'oomph' with headroom to spare.

 

[vancamp]

I found 'Love Me Do' to be the easiest one I could find

We added that one later, but it wasn't on his original list. We skipped over "Pretty Woman", "Hotel California" and "Day Tripper" (but we did go back and pick up Pretty Woman and Hotel California later... still won't touch Day Tripper). I think after "If I Fell", we picked up an easy CCR, like "Bad Moon Rising".

 

[GonePlaid]

We added that one later, but it wasn't on his original list. We skipped over "Pretty Woman", "Hotel California" and "Day Tripper" (but we did go back and pick up Pretty Woman and Hotel California later... still won't touch Day Tripper).

If you work it out slow first, it's pretty easy.

 

[G-Dog]

I am completely new here but I joined the club today? I bought a new Rumble 100 after days of hunting around for used stuff where I live. I got a good deal I feel as with a discount it was close to some minty used ones I have seen. I am looking forward to trying it out tomorrow when the kids are not in bed sleeping lol.

Also side note I am learning and literally can't play a complete song just yet so this is overkill. I was given the Silvertone Bass I have, as well as small toasted 10w guitar amp that I have been using for a few months. So I had nothing into this until today, figured at least I could start with something decent.

Welcome to TalkBass, resty. You're off to a great start with the Rumble 100 combo, for sure! And the photo of your Rumble in your avatar qualifies you to join. @restomod, you are now member #1160 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations, and feel free to pick the brains of our extensive cast of experienced and new players with any questions you may have. Of course, your observations and opinions are welcome, too.

Checkout the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, for all the Rumble info you could hope for. And please keep us posted of your progress! And always remember to . . . .

Rumble On!
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[G-Dog]

I used mine on an outdoor CC gig yesterday. Plenty of 'oomph' with headroom to spare.

A Contemporary Christian gig!? Bless you, GonePlaid.
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[GonePlaid]

A Contemporary Christian gig!? Bless you, GonePlaid.
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Country Club, but thanks.

 

[G-Dog]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thank you, @Giffro, for your suggestion! Giffy, your idea to add *Horn status* to the Rumble Summary Info chart on the Rumble Club Wiki page has been implemented. This is a great addition to our model comparison information. Thank you for sharing your inspiration, and for your continuing support of The Club!

Giff, your lighthearted witty banter is a joy to behold, both here and on other threads. It's an honor and a privilege to have you in our midst. Please take good care of yourself and the Mrs. during this hazardous time of bushfires in your region. And, please, no more head butting doors, OK? But, by all means do, but safely, . . . .

Rumble On!​

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[bassdeal]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

 

[Bottom Octave]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

If at all possible, use a long cable or borrow/rent/purchase a wireless system (these are getting ridiculously inexpensive these days) and walk around the audience area during sound check while you are playing. (Cable length may affect your tone, depending on length, buffering, active vs passive bass, etc.) You WILL find dead spots and hot spots with various notes as you move around an indoor venue. Keep playing as you return to your onstage position and make a note of the difference(s) between your sound there and at key spots in the audience area. What sounds great in the audience may not sound as good at your position, so keep that in mind as you tweak the controls. This also applies generally to outdoor venues, although the effects of long standing waves will likely be negligible due to the absence of walls and ceiling.

 

[13bass]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

Been thinking about this myself, for home and playing out, so interested to see what ideas everyone has. I've debated looking for a table to use, but it would end up being top heavy I think, maybe milk crates like you suggest, or even one crate with a wedge affixed to it to angle the front of the amp up at well.

 

[bassdeal]

If at all possible, use a long cable or borrow/rent/purchase a wireless system (these are getting ridiculously inexpensive these days) and walk around the audience area during sound check while you are playing. (Cable length may affect your tone, depending on length, buffering, active vs passive bass, etc.) You WILL find dead spots and hot spots with various notes as you move around an indoor venue. Keep playing as you return to your onstage position and make a note of the difference(s) between your sound there and at key spots in the audience area. What sounds great in the audience may not sound as good at your position, so keep that in mind as you tweak the controls. This also applies generally to outdoor venues, although the effects of long standing waves will likely be negligible due to the absence of walls and ceiling.

I do this when I can. I also used to record most shows with a Tascam DR-05 until the guitarist insisted on having control of all media. I have been thinking about the wireless approach, at least for sound-check situations (I am a hard-cable person both musically and networks. Too much RF already).

 

[Bottom Octave]

Been thinking about this myself, for home and playing out, so interested to see what ideas everyone has. I've debated looking for a table to use, but it would end up being top heavy I think, maybe milk crates like you suggest, or even one crate with a wedge affixed to it to angle the front of the amp up at well.

Sometimes simplest is best. Before purchasing a foam "wedge" marketed for the purpose, perhaps try an empty 3" or 4" three-ring binder as a wedge under the front. These will raise the front of a 100v3 about 12 and 17 degrees, respectively. Although it won't necessarily provide the minimal isolation provided by the foam, it will give you a convenient place to store your printed stage plot/input list/block diagrams, and save you a few bucks. If it works, you can stencil the name of your band on the spine of the binder instead of giving free advertising to Ampwedge.

 

[vancamp]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

Before I picked up my R100, I was using an "On-Stage RS7500" for my Studio 40, which gets it off the floor and angles it up, but doesn't raise it that high. Now, with the R100 + RS40 combo, I just use an Ampwedge under the R100.

 

[G-Dog]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thank you, @BazzaBass, for sharing! Bazza, your post of the Woofer Cone Area Chart has been linked to the Rumble Summary Info chart section of the Rumble Club Wiki page. This is a useful bit of info, especially for the math challenged amongst us. Yeah, I know you said @Linnin originally posted it, but I asked, and he don't think he did!

Bazza, please accept my thanks, and the thanks of the many others who find this helpful, for sharing this. And do continue to . . . .

Rumble On!​

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[JakobT]

If at all possible, use a long cable or borrow/rent/purchase a wireless system (these are getting ridiculously inexpensive these days) and walk around the audience area during sound check while you are playing. (Cable length may affect your tone, depending on length, buffering, active vs passive bass, etc.) You WILL find dead spots and hot spots with various notes as you move around an indoor venue. Keep playing as you return to your onstage position and make a note of the difference(s) between your sound there and at key spots in the audience area. What sounds great in the audience may not sound as good at your position, so keep that in mind as you tweak the controls. This also applies generally to outdoor venues, although the effects of long standing waves will likely be negligible due to the absence of walls and ceiling.

I prefer to leave this to the sound guy.

 

[Bottom Octave]

I prefer to leave this to the sound guy.

Which may be appropriate if you have a sound guy.

 

[wctesla]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

Wish there was some kind of add on pole mount stand (maybe clamp or strap on) for small amps like this...Some keyboard amps come with a built in pole mount insert....hmmm....

 

[CallMeAl]

Does anyone use an amp stand with their R40? I looked at the Wiki but could not find any topic on amp stands.
3rd show with my R40 in the semi-acoustic trio. Very tight corner wooded location, right against the wall at my feet. I did use a small wood block to prop the front of the amp up a bit for some direct projection to the audience. At the start booming low-end between the cajon and me. Major EQing for the first hour by me until I got something that "seemed" reasonable. This was a particularly bad setup but typically we play in quite tight spaces and the amp is almost always directly next to a wall. Sometimes I can move forward during a song to check levels etc. but sometimes once we start playing, I can't move without moving a mic stand.

The problem I have is in I can't actually hear what the amp is actually putting out, sound-wise. I calculate what I think it is doing (OK I am at this angle from the speaker so maybe 30%->90% attenuation upper-mids->high treble) but I don't know for sure. Also guitar, some cajon, and vocal through a Bose L2 which the mids and highs blasting into my right ear (don't get me started about these systems) so it is hard to determine if I am at a good volume.

It seems like some of the popular guitar amp stands would work but they take up significant floor space compared to the R40 itself. Maybe a couple stacked milk crates?

Anyone opinions on amp stands for the R40? Thanks for any input.

I love this thing for my 100:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AmpWedge--on-stage-stands-rs100-amp-tilt-system

Seems to both decouple the boom and point the sound up. I like that it’s small, fairly discrete, folds up into a shoulder/gig bag, and is only $21.

sure, a bigger stand would probably do a better job of decoupling/elevating, but this checks all my boxes.

 

[JakobT]

Which may be appropriate if you have a sound guy.

If we don’t have a sound guy we bring our own.