Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

Hi! I own a Rumble 800 head since 9 months now. Seems I cant get it to sound clean with satisfying definition. Anybody here has a Frequency chart for each knob?

I know they are listed in the manual , but that 10Khz shelving type Treble knob seems useless. Anybody heres know if the shelving actually starts at 10khz or it peaks at that point ?
Id like to see the curves of each knob on a graph.

I bought an Alpha Omega Ultra preamp to help define the hi mids and have control on lower than 80hz frequencies...but its noisy.

Help please!

Hi, beautiful! Welcome to TalkBass in general and the Rumble Club in particular.

See if these curves are what you're looking for.

How about showing us a pic of your Rumble and joining The Club? Lotsa helpful people here. And there's always the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, for reference to all kindsa Rumble info.

Welcome, again. And hope this helps.
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[Le beau JP]

Hi, beautiful! Welcome to TalkBass in general and the Rumble Club in particular.

See if these curves are what you're looking for.

How about showing us a pic of your Rumble and joining The Club? Lotsa helpful people here. And there's always the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, for reference to all kindsa Rumble info.

Welcome, again. And hope this helps.
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Hey!! Yeahhh that was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you soo much!

It would be a pleasure to join the club!! Here's a pic of my rig:

 

[Le beau JP]

So you may be wondering what the pre-set tone controls do? Bright, Contour & Vintage. This is with ALL tone controls at 12o'clock . . Traces normalised to 0dB at start of test. The black line is the reference signal.
Bright is treble boost. Contour is scooped at 700Hz. Vintage is treble cut.

The results tested with my Rumble 500.

View attachment 2871333 View attachment 2871333

Red trace = Bright
Blue trace = Contour
Green trace = Vintage

Hi!! I like your graphs a lot. But there is one thing that left me a little doubt:.
The Vintage curve is supposed to have a slight boost at 80hz and a low pass at 400hz. The graph doesnt seem to show that. Do you have an explanation for that?

My ears definitely hear a bump in the low end and a more muddy sound when I press the vintage Button.

And it seems the Bright button AND the Treble knob are influencing the same frequencies. Same curve. Am I wrong when I say that button is the most useless in history?

Thank you very much!!

 

[GonePlaid]

Hi!! I like your graphs a lot. But there is one thing that left me a little doubt:.
The Vintage curve is supposed to have a slight boost at 80hz and a low pass at 400hz. The graph doesnt seem to show that. Do you have an explanation for that?

My ears definitely hear a bump in the low end and a more muddy sound when I press the vintage Button.

And it seems the Bright button AND the Treble knob are influencing the same frequencies. Same curve. Am I wrong when I say that button is the most useless in history?

Thank you very much!!

I usually run my Bass and Treble at 10 o'clock, both mids at 2. For some rooms I use the bright to give a little clarity. The vintage gives more 'oomph' for rooms that need it. I start with those settings at each room we play, whether I'm using my R40, R100, or R200combo.

 

[G-Dog]

Hey!! Yeahhh that was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you soo much!

It would be a pleasure to join the club!! Here's a pic of my rig:

Nice, beau. Glad that helped you. @Le beau JP, you are now member #1206 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Make yourself at home here and ask, or discuss, whatever you want.

And long shall we all . . . .

Rumble On!
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[Le beau JP]

I usually run my Bass and Treble at 10 o'clock, both mids at 2. For some rooms I use the bright to give a little clarity. The vintage gives more 'oomph' for rooms that need it. I start with those settings at each room we play, whether I'm using my R40, R100, or R200combo.

Dont you think it sounds too "honky or boxy" that way?? Especially when playing alone ? Ill try it! , I mainly play passive basses and passive mode on active ones. Thanks!

 

[Le beau JP]

Nice, beau. Glad that helped you. @Le beau JP, you are now member #1206 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Make yourself at home here and ask, or discuss, whatever you want.

And long shall we all . . . .

Rumble On!
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Thanks again!! Never got such direct and straight to the point answer to a problem ahahah Lets get ready to Rummmmmbleeeee

 

[G-Dog]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thanks, @Le beau JP. Your request for Frequency Curves has led to them being linked on the Rumble Club Wiki page in the Summary Info section. This is a very useful addition to our collection of Rumbling info.

Thank you, beau, for your valuable contribution.
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[Le beau JP]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

Thanks, @Le beau JP. Your request for Frequency Curves has led to them being linked on the Rumble Club Wiki page in the Summary Info section. This is a very useful addition to our collection of Rumbling info.

Thank you, beau, for your valuable contribution.
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Its been a pleasure!! Now because of your help I no longer feel the need for a preamp or another Amp (until next GAS symptoms occurs lol). The Alpha Omega Ultra is now only a distortion tool I have on my board. Those Rumble are crazy tone machines but you really got to know how they work to get them sound great.
For what its worth, my settings now are :
Gain ar 10:30, Vintage + Contour buttons engaged, Bass at 11, both mids at noon, Treble at 2:30.

I never used the preset buttons before, I found them useless especially in a band. Now they do wonders.
If some guys wanna try it out and see if it works for them.

Thank you very much again guys. Very appreciated.

 

[bassdeal]

Dont you think it sounds too "honky or boxy" that way?? Especially when playing alone ? Ill try it! , I mainly play passive basses and passive mode on active ones. Thanks!

I think @GonePlaid settings are when he is playing with his band. Very different situation than playing alone. My settings are quite close to his when playing with my semi-acoustic trio (guitar, bass, cajon). I find setting good alone sound not so great with a band (boomy, does not cut through an acoustic guitar playing 5 and 6 string chords) but lack low-end when playing alone.

 

[Le beau JP]

I think @GonePlaid settings are when he is playing with his band. Very different situation than playing alone. My settings are quite close to his when playing with my semi-acoustic trio (guitar, bass, cajon). I find setting good alone sound not so great with a band (boomy, does not cut through an acoustic guitar playing 5 and 6 string chords) but lack low-end when playing alone.

Thats what I thought too. I totally agree with you

 

[GonePlaid]

Dont you think it sounds too "honky or boxy" that way?? Especially when playing alone ? Ill try it! , I mainly play passive basses and passive mode on active ones. Thanks!

Those are my settings on our gigs. We do mostly "Classic-and older-Rock". I rarely dig out my Rumbles at home. I have my 'practice amp' always plugged in, since it never leaves the house any more.

 

[John Stephen]

Same here. And GonePlaid's settings for gigs have worked great for me.

 

[GonePlaid]

Same here. And GonePlaid's settings for gigs have worked great for me.

I'm glad they work for you. I got 'em from @alanloomis1980.

 

[John Stephen]

Oh that's right, I remember now, from the earlier posts. Thanks to alanloomis1980 for the 10/2/2/10 recommendations.

 

[G-Dog]

Its been a pleasure!! Now because of your help I no longer feel the need for a preamp or another Amp (until next GAS symptoms occurs lol). The Alpha Omega Ultra is now only a distortion tool I have on my board. Those Rumble are crazy tone machines but you really got to know how they work to get them sound great.
For what its worth, my settings now are :
Gain ar 10:30, Vintage + Contour buttons engaged, Bass at 11, both mids at noon, Treble at 2:30.

I never used the preset buttons before, I found them useless especially in a band. Now they do wonders.
If some guys wanna try it out and see if it works for them.

Thank you very much again guys. Very appreciated.

You ain't wrong that Rumbles work different from some other amps! Glad you're finding out how to work them.

See the Rumble Talks section of the Rumble Club Wiki page linked in my signature. Especially the "Fender Rumble Overdrive, Adjust Gain, Drive and Level to Taste" link to @JakobT's explanation of those controls. Lots of other good info there, too.
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[coast2coast]

Hi Folks

My Rumble 500c and P-Bass are just fantastic together. Booom!!!!

Stoopid question Alert:

The Overdrive is referred to in the manual as the "Overdrive Circuit", whereas I've noticed some posters referring to it as an "Overdrive Effect" and even "Overdrive Channel".

If I'm playing without Overdrive, having the Overdrive switched off (obviously) and have the Drive and Level knobs of the Overdrive section turned all the way down, whilst playing at say 12 oclock Gain and Master. All is okay. However, if I switch the Overdrive on at these settings, the sound cuts out with there being nothing, even if I then max the Master. If I start turning up the Level of the Overdrive section my sound comes back and the Drive knob can be turned up to suit whatever Drive I'm looking for. Btw, My normal non-overdriven sound comes back if switch the Overdrive off.

Why is this? Is this normal, or do I have a faulty 500c? I'm kinda guessing not and that you all know this? Thought I'd ask.

I was expecting my non-overdriven signal to still be present when I switch the Overdrive on (i.e. it affecting the normal sound like an effect). Does this make it an Overdrive Channel then?

 

[John Stephen]

Hey c2c, there are no stoopid questions (or even stupid ones). As for my response, however, I make no guarantees. Anyhoo, the situation you described is how the Overdrive works on the Rumbles. Some folks use that Overdrive button as a mute, to mute their bass in between songs, for example (there've been some posts about that here). Whether that technically makes it a channel vs an effect, I don't know. But yours is working the way Rumbles work.

 

[G-Dog]

Hi Folks

My Rumble 500c and P-Bass are just fantastic together. Booom!!!!

Stoopid question Alert:

The Overdrive is referred to in the manual as the "Overdrive Circuit", whereas I've noticed some posters referring to it as an "Overdrive Effect" and even "Overdrive Channel".

If I'm playing without Overdrive, having the Overdrive switched off (obviously) and have the Drive and Level knobs of the Overdrive section turned all the way down, whilst playing at say 12 oclock Gain and Master. All is okay. However, if I switch the Overdrive on at these settings, the sound cuts out with there being nothing, even if I then max the Master. If I start turning up the Level of the Overdrive section my sound comes back and the Drive knob can be turned up to suit whatever Drive I'm looking for. Btw, My normal non-overdriven sound comes back if switch the Overdrive off.

Why is this? Is this normal, or do I have a faulty 500c? I'm kinda guessing not and that you all know this? Thought I'd ask.

I was expecting my non-overdriven signal to still be present when I switch the Overdrive on (i.e. it affecting the normal sound like an effect). Does this make it an Overdrive Channel then?

Hey c2c, there are no stoopid questions (or even stupid ones). As for my response, however, I make no guarantees. Anyhoo, the situation you described is how the Overdrive works on the Rumbles. Some folks use that Overdrive button as a mute, to mute their bass in between songs, for example (there've been some posts about that here). Whether that technically makes it a channel vs an effect, I don't know. But yours is working the way Rumbles work.

Not to worry, coastie. Your Rumble is working just fine. As Johnny Stevie says, you have discovered the "hidden mute feature", as we have come to call it here in The Club, and documented near the bottom of the Rumble Talks section of the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature. It is a very handy mute, especially with a footswitch, if you never use the Overdrive. Also, the manual says to use the Level control to balance volume levels.

On the subject of "effect" vs "circuit" vs "channel" I side with either "effect" or "circuit". The manual calls it "the Overdrive circuit", but I think of it as an "effect", too. And, to me, a "channel" includes the EQ controls, bass, mids & treble, such that switching between channels can give the different tones based on those different EQ settings without the use of any other effects or circuits. Rumbles don't have that, nor is such mentioned in the manuals.

That's my tuppence, anyway.
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[chupacerveza]

Not to worry, coastie. Your Rumble is working just fine. As Johnny Stevie says, you have discovered the "hidden mute feature", as we have come to call it here in The Club, and documented near the bottom of the Rumble Talks section of the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature. It is a very handy mute, especially with a footswitch, if you never use the Overdrive. Also, the manual says to use the Level control to balance volume levels.

On the subject of "effect" vs "circuit" vs "channel" I side with either "effect" or "circuit". The manual calls it "the Overdrive circuit", but I think of it as an "effect", too. And, to me, a "channel" includes the EQ controls, bass, mids & treble, such that switching between channels can give the different tones based on those different EQ settings without the use of any other effects or circuits. Rumbles don't have that, nor is such mentioned in the manuals.

That's my tuppence, anyway.
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Indeed, I’m a big fan of the “tuning mute” feature that the overdrive channel/effect/circuit affords.