Fender Rumble Club

[Evilheim]

I looked it up. Yes reaper seems to work! I'll have to test it once I have my interface

Advice here, get the reaper before the Scralett so you start learning the basics, would be a bit overwelming at the beginning, but just look for some basic setup configuration: how to config the audio driver (the Scarlett comes with one, also every soundcard has its own), how to setup the inputs and outputs, and also the basics on the audio chanels; input and output selection, and the "input monitoring" for recording hearing what's going into the chanel.

Once you get familiar with a DAW, you can easily learn how to use any other!

 

[JDFreeman]

I've always liked the simplicity of Audacity. My blind eyes love the big clear buttons too. But I don't care for mixing. I like recording the wrong way; where you set your tone and effects at the amp and go for it. So no one should ever take recording advice from me.

But yeah it's much more limited compared to Reaper. I just found Reaper to be very inaccessible and thus not worth bothering with the learning curve.

I know I recommended Ardour already but I've found it to have less of a learning curve than some others I've tried. Does everything I can think of needing to do but pretty easy to learn - good manual and support forum too..!

 

[JakobT]

Good luck!

Now that I'm not falling asleep on the keyboard I remembered you could always run the effects send of your Rumble 40 in the effects return of the LM3 while it's hooked up to the SVT. That'd tell you exactly what the Rumble 800HD will sound like. But I'm glad the venn diagram description was helpful!

The Rumble 40 doesn’t have an effects send/return. You have to move up to the 100 for that.

 

[Evilheim]

After some research about woofers and cabinet designing, which I'm a bit familiar to due to educational background, I'm starting the plans to return my unlucky Rumble 25 (V1) to it's old glory.

Thank to G-Dog I found some interesting posts on the Rumble's Wiki page, and also found some very valuable comments by AstroSonic about speakers and cabinet designs so I decided to replace the unfortunated stock speaker for a Eminence Alpha-10A 10" 8 Ohms, it seems a very reliable option for my patient but I'm still open to suggestions. Also I'll go for a slighly bigger, with acoustic fill and open cabinet, I'll need to do some more research about acoustics in order to come up with the right box design to make the speaker sounds better, that would go quite technical.

But first I'll star with something way more easier, the head box, Which I currently have covered with cardboard (hahahaha what a shame! see pic), at least it has red insulating tape all around, and all inside it has shielding tape, at least the head works properly without any weird noise. I'll mount the funky red light PCB that comes with the V1's on the head, it responds to the intensity of what you play, so may looks kind of funny tho. I'm about to take the measures of the head in order to do the head plans so.

 

[Mark White]

how to config the audio driver

The Scarlett should be recognised out of the box in Linux as it conforms to a USB standard I forget now. More of an issue might come from working with jackd.

Essentially, it's a software patchbay that is (arguably) needed to work with DAWs on Linux. It allows you to do things like connecting Scarlett output 1 to DAW input 1 and also to system output left, or midi keyboard output to drum machine software input, and drum machine output to DAW input 2, etc... Like routing for audio channels. It has a reputation of being potentially fiddly, though I found it fairly straightforward.

 

[Mark White]

I know I recommended Ardour already but I've found it to have less of a learning curve than some others I've tried.

A nicer UI too IMHO. Better plugin support and some bundled midi instruments are extremely good. I wanted to prefer Reaper because it is so popular and have retried it a couple of times, but prefer Ardour.

 

[eric_B]

Im kinda in the similar boat. While I do aknowledge the awesomeness of plugins I just want to record what I and my gear sounds like, not a hundred plugins.

It can be very easy to use Reaper just for recording, you don't have to use plugins or more advanced features.

Simple Reaper tutorial

Setup the connections
First connect your audio interface to the computer and your bass as described in the manual. Depending on the operating system, you may or may not have to install drivers. The manual should clarify it.
Also make sure that the input / volume levels of your audio interface are set to a quarter or so level, you can always turn them up.

Preparation: setup the audio interface (only required once)
1. Start Reaper and press CTRL+P (or go to the menubar Options | Preferences)
2. In the left bar, Scroll to Audio | Device
3. Select Audio System, usually ASIO is preferred for best performance
4. Select the Audio Driver. For my interface it is M-Audio Delta Asio, yours should be the one with the name of your audio interface
5. Make sure the checkbox Enable Inputs is checked and select the first 1 or 2 input(s)
6. Select the Output range, usually the first 2 outputs

Recording:
1. Start Reaper and press CTRL+T (or from the menubar Track | Insert new track)
2. Press the red circle Record arm/disarm button on the top left of track 1
3. Play your bass and you should see the meter bar(s) moving. You might have to click the Speaker icon right next to the Record button to toggle the Record Monitoring options to be able to hear the sound from the audio interface.
4. Press CTRL+R (or click the Record button at the bottom left) and Reaper starts recording
5. Press CTRL+R again (or the Record button) to stop recording
6. Press the SPACEBAR (or Play button) to hear your recording (click with the mouse in the right panel to set the cursor at the playback/recording position)
7. Press CTRL+S (or click the Save Button or menu File | Save project) to save your project

That's it...

BTW: I'm not forcing anyone to any specific DAW (in fact, I use several...), I think you should use what works best for you.
But recording in Reaper can be rather simple, it takes me just a couple of clicks to start recording.

 

[BBassBassington]

The Rumble 40 doesn’t have an effects send/return. You have to move up to the 100 for that.

My bad. I just assume because the 40 upward has the same front end that it has the same back too.

I know I recommended Ardour already but I've found it to have less of a learning curve than some others I've tried. Does everything I can think of needing to do but pretty easy to learn - good manual and support forum too..!

I'll check this one out, thanks!

Lots of good DAW advice here today!

 

[Katoosie]

(stuff)

Installed it. Will use it once I have the interface, thanks!!!!!

 

[jdaunt]

Tried searching through here and reading the Wiki and didn’t see this specifically spelled out. I have a 500 and 100 (both V3, bought within the last few months) and have a tryout with a new band on Sunday. Not sure how big their amps are/how loud i’ll need to be, so plan on taking both amps with the option of daisy chaining them together. My question is, does it matter which order I chain them? If i use the 500 as master, do i risk overpowering the 100, or vice versa, will using the 100 as master underpower the 500?
If i decide i need it i’ll probably get an extension cab for the 500, but in the meantime wanted to figure out my options.
Thanks and it’s so great for TB to be back!!!

 

[G-Dog]

Tried searching through here and reading the Wiki and didn’t see this specifically spelled out. I have a 500 and 100 (both V3, bought within the last few months) and have a tryout with a new band on Sunday. Not sure how big their amps are/how loud i’ll need to be, so plan on taking both amps with the option of daisy chaining them together. My question is, does it matter which order I chain them? If i use the 500 as master, do i risk overpowering the 100, or vice versa, will using the 100 as master underpower the 500?
If i decide i need it i’ll probably get an extension cab for the 500, but in the meantime wanted to figure out my options.
Thanks and it’s so great for TB to be back!!!

It shouldn't make any difference which amp is primary or secondary. The signal from FX Send to FX Return isn't proportional to the amp's rated power, but is comparable on all models. Depending on your height, it could be more convenient to use the 100 as primary sitting on top of the 500. If not, I believe the 100 can still sit atop the 500 and leave the 500 controls accessible due to smaller cabinet.

Plus, I think it's more presence you'll get from the combination of speakers, rather than much more volume. But I'd be interested to hear your review of it.

Good luck with the tryout! Let us know how it goes.
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[GonePlaid]

It shouldn't make any difference which amp is primary or secondary. The signal from FX Send to FX Return isn't proportional to the amp's rated power, but is comparable on all models. Depending on your height, it could be more convenient to use the 100 as primary sitting on top of the 500. If not, I believe the 100 can still sit atop the 500 and leave the 500 controls accessible due to smaller cabinet.

Plus, I think it's more presence you'll get from the combination of speakers, rather than much more volume. But I'd be interested to hear your review of it.

Good luck with the tryout! Let us know how it goes.
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FWIW, I experimented here in la casa both 100>200c and 200c>100. As said, more for presence than volume. (200c>100 was kinda similar to 200c>112 w/ tweeter off)

 

[jdaunt]

FWIW, I experimented here in la casa both 100>200c and 200c>100. As said, more for presence than volume. (200c>100 was kinda similar to 200c>112 w/ tweeter off)

Great, thanks! That’s what i figured but thought i’d ask before i tried it. And yeah, i wasn’t expecting a whole lot more volume, and like i said i’m not even sure if i’ll need it. Just curious about my options.
Thanks!

 

[GonePlaid]

Great, thanks! That’s what i figured but thought i’d ask before i tried it. And yeah, i wasn’t expecting a whole lot more volume, and like i said i’m not even sure if i’ll need it. Just curious about my options.
Thanks!

BTW, even playing out I rarely, almost never, have GAIN or VOLUME as high as noon. Just don't need to at the places I/we play. Even outside. Our audience(s)isn't interested in being deafened.

 

[Mvf]

Tried searching through here and reading the Wiki and didn’t see this specifically spelled out. I have a 500 and 100 (both V3, bought within the last few months) and have a tryout with a new band on Sunday. Not sure how big their amps are/how loud i’ll need to be, so plan on taking both amps with the option of daisy chaining them together. My question is, does it matter which order I chain them? If i use the 500 as master, do i risk overpowering the 100, or vice versa, will using the 100 as master underpower the 500?
If i decide i need it i’ll probably get an extension cab for the 500, but in the meantime wanted to figure out my options.
Thanks and it’s so great for TB to be back!!!

Does not matter which way you chain them. The preamp is the same in both, as far as I know, so it should sound exactly the same both ways. No risk over overpowering or underpowering either.

 

[G-Dog]

Tried searching through here and reading the Wiki and didn’t see this specifically spelled out. I have a 500 and 100 (both V3, ... and have a tryout with a new band on Sunday. Not sure how ... loud i’ll need to be, so plan on taking both amps with the option of daisy chaining them together. My question is, does it matter which order I chain them? If i use the 500 as master, do i risk overpowering the 100, or vice versa, will using the 100 as master underpower the 500? ... ...

It shouldn't make any difference which amp is primary or secondary. The signal from FX Send to FX Return isn't proportional to the amp's rated power, but is comparable on all models. ... ... .

Does not matter which way you chain them. The preamp is the same in both, as far as I know, so it should sound exactly the same both ways. No risk over overpowering or underpowering either.

The answer is linked from the Rumble Club Wiki page, though not specifically spelled out to match your question. The Rumble Frequency Specs shows the Send is 1kΩ (balanced) and the Return is 22kΩ (balanced) for all models.
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[GonePlaid]

Gig tomorrow(Saturday night). Epi EB-0(or Gibson Les Paul 5er?)>R100. All I need for that room. I've used the 200c there, but it's unneeded and space is really tight. Yes, tight enuff that the size difference matters.
See? Size does matter

 

[John Stephen]

I still envy you, GP. Still no gigging yet here. Enjoy it.

 

[GonePlaid]

I still envy you, GP. Still no gigging yet here. Enjoy it.

Thanks. This one should be a lotta fun.

 

[jdaunt]

The answer is linked from the Rumble Club Wiki page, though not specifically spelled out to match your question. The Rumble Frequency Specs shows the Send is 1kΩ (balanced) and the Return is 22kΩ (balanced) for all models.
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Ahh, ok, thanks for clearing that up. I figured i was just missing it somewhere.