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Fender Rumble Club

No, No, No, G-Dog! Pages are NOT replies! Current Page is 2437. Current # of replies are 48737 (unless someone replies be fore me). :D


But pages do consist of replies and do, therefore, indicate the same category for all intents and purposes of our contest. :whistle:

However, although we will reach the beginning of the 2,500th page at just 49,981 replies, that page remains incomplete until it is filled. That is why the page number alone is not the defining milestone posed in our contest. :yawn:

So, it is the 50,000 replies milestone that fully defines this category of our contest. And that will only be reached at the bottom of the 2,500th page. :thumbsup:

Ominously, a potentially unresolvable "photo finish" could exist if the 1,500th member is inducted, and/or the 3,000,000th view is made, on the 50,000th reply!!! In the extremely unlikely event of a triple tie, it would seem only right to declare all recorded entries as winners, and the Club Exchequer would have to draft funds, and mortgage Club assets, as necessary to cover all such awards! :woot: And a double tie would, pro-ratably, award all those entries with the tying categories in 1st & 2nd place, in either order. Or do I hear any objections to this?
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It IS disappointing when something you have faith in performs sub-par or in this case, is kind of useless as it is. It happens with all everything occasionally. I've found the more reputable ones aren't going to let even one person down if they can help it, and even the good stuff has an occasional hiccup. Hopefully it's not a pattern or the start of one. They made it right, good for everyone especially you. Hopefully you'll be able to have it repaired. As far as amps go they aren't the most complex. Do you know anyone personally that might be interested in taking a look ? I'm fortunate and happen to be friends with or at least friendly terms with one or two that are smarter or just more into fixing stuff when I give up.

My one buddy will say don't worry about it. If it's a cheap repair I'll throw out AT LEAST a little more than what the repair is worth. If you take it to a professional chances are it'll be premium price and a long wait to boot.

I hope you can find someone on the side, in that case it's deff worth having it done. Most of the time it's worth the cost of fixing before you sell. No Hurry but throw a few feelers out. Could put you ahead of the game.

Just another great reason to be part of this community, If there's a pattern we'll be the first to know. Thanks for posting it !!! (kind of excited they let you keep the amp :) )

At this point, I'm going to believe that this is an anomaly and the next amp will be like all of my other Fender equipment. However, I wanted to mention it to other Rumble users in case anyone else encounters a problem. Also, to let everyone know that the amp has a 2 year warranty and that Fender customer service is truly amazing.

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone that repairs amps. However, I'll check with the guys in the band to see if any of them know someone that might be able to diagnose the problem. If it's something that can be repaired for a reasonable price, I'll have it repaired and keep it as a backup. If not, I'll keep it for the parts. Like you, I'm excited that Fender let me keep it!
 
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My one buddy will say don't worry about it. If it's a cheap repair I'll throw out AT LEAST a little more than what the repair is worth. If you take it to a professional chances are it'll be premium price and a long wait to boot.

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Like the guy in Finland who was quoted $22,000 to replace the battery pack in his old Tesla Model S. After removing the battery pack and reusable parts like the electric motors, he blew it up!

 
Got the warranty replacement and it works properly.
So, get this, Fender does not want you to return the defective one.
I have to ‘destroy’ it and take pictures of it destroyed so that the shop I bought it from, Empire Music, gets their credit for the warranty replacement amp. Seems like a waste to me, but, will be fun to aim my sledgehammer at it.

At this point, I'm going to believe that this is an anomaly and the next amp will be like all of my other Fender equipment. However, I wanted to mention it to other Rumble users in case anyone else encounters a problem. Also, to let everyone know that the amp has a 2 year warranty and that Fender customer service is truly amazing.

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone that repairs amps. However, I'll check with the guys in the band to see if any of them know someone that might be able to diagnose the problem. If it's something that can be repaired for a reasonable price, I'll have it repaired and keep it as a backup. If not, I'll keep it for the parts. Like you, I'm excited that Fender let me keep it!


BassGuy, I'm surprised you didn't have to destroy it (at least the electronics) like John did his. :confused:
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Interesting article

5 Best Bass Practice Amplifiers 2021

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Thanks to all of you who sent me helpful tips about my new (used) Rumble 200!

I spent a few hours on it last night, and I managed to get it working. :) The horn doesn't work, but I would have left it off anyway. The external-speaker jack was also missing, but those are just resale-value problems for down the road.

I didn't have the appropriate connector for the I/O board, so I just soldered wires onto the 4-pin connector, added some fast-on crimp connectors, and tested it. Very pleased. :) The bottom end is much better than my 1x10" amp. At max volume, it shakes the house nicely.

So for $100 CAD (around $80 US today), that's not bad, eh?

I'm just a beginner (very old beginner) so this is just going to be used as a practice amp, and to play along with songs using the Aux input, but it's going to be a great-sounding practice amp!

Another interesting feature, when using the Aux input, the music is in Stereo when using the headphones, bass is mono across both ears.
 
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Hi Everyone,

I have an 800 hd head coming in, I also have a V3 4x10 cab coming in. I already have a V3 2x10 cab. (8ohm, 700W) Assuming the new cab is 8 ohms (1000W) the total impedance will be 4 ohms.

Back of the head says 800W @ 4 or 2 ohm minimum.

On paper according to fender manual, the 2x10 can only be used by itself. It's rated at 700 watts but the Amp says 800W minimum at 4 ohms, which is what I'll have if I connect the 4x10 8 ohm cab in addition to the 2x10.

Is it strongly recommended to not use the 700 watt cab when minimum power rating is 800W, or is it done frequently ?

Thanks and Happy New Year to You !!!
Joe
 
Hi Everyone,

I have an 800 hd head coming in, I also have a V3 4x10 cab coming in. I already have a V3 2x10 cab. (8ohm, 700W) Assuming the new cab is 8 ohms (1000W) the total impedance will be 4 ohms.

Back of the head says 800W @ 4 or 2 ohm minimum.

On paper according to fender manual, the 2x10 can only be used by itself. It's rated at 700 watts but the Amp says 800W minimum at 4 ohms, which is what I'll have if I connect the 4x10 8 ohm cab.

Is it strongly recommended to not use the 700 watt cab when minimum power rating is 800W, or is it done frequently ?

Thanks and Happy New Year to You !!!
Joe

It's OK if you don't push it...
 
What exactly does the manual say? Because that makes no sense to me.
I think he’s saying, you get the 800 amp running at only 400 watts if running just 8 ohms out of it. Which is within the rated wattage of the 2x10 cab. But. If you add another cab at 8 ohms, total is 4 ohms and you go to 800 watts, which is over the 700 watts rating of the 2x10. Looks like.

I see, you could run four 4x10 cabs at total 2 ohms with that head! Oh, except there’s only two speaker jacks.

Luckily, I only have a Rumble 100 so don’t have to think about ohms and watts. But I had a big Peavey head back in the day, with two 2x15 cabs, each the size of a small refrigerator. Just playing at home or with some acoustic instruments these days.

Happy New Year.
 
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Yes, Grien-&-bare-it. (Or is it Grinder?) Welcome to TalkBass ... ... the main thing is to compare similar types of ratings. That is RMS & Continuous watts versus Program or Peak watts, which use different scales. :whistle: ... ... As JakobT has already pointed out, the Rumble 210 is rated 700 watts Program (very short time), but also 350 watts Continuous (long time). The 250 watts minimum marked on your R500c is Continuous. :thumbsup: ... ... .

:laugh: Indeed, Grinder, you seem to be the targeted market! Even when corrected (twice by JakobT & I) that the actual, usable rating for the 210 cab is 350 Continuous watts, you still cling to the marketing (very short time) 700 Program watts! Likewise the 410 is 500 watts Continuous and 1,000 Program. Those Program numbers are only good to know because the more usable Continuous numbers are exactly half. :roflmao: ... ... .

Hi Everyone,. ... ...


Oh, come on, Grinder! You're still mixing Program watts with the more usable Continuous watts! It's like mixing miles-per-hour with kilometers-per-hour, the math doesn't work!

I'm gonna correct your message here for you, to get the ratings straight and make the math work.​

... ... I have an 800 hd head coming in, I also have a V3 4x10 cab coming in. I already have a V3 2x10 cab. (8ohm, [350W Continuous], 700W Program) Assuming the new cab is 8 ohms, [500W Continuous] (1000W Program) the total impedance will be 4 ohms.

Back of the head says "Rating: 400W @ 8 ohms/ 800W @ 4 or 2 ohm minimum" ... ...


The ratings marked on the back of your Rumble equipment is in Continuous watts, which is half the Program watts that the marketing headlines give you. Do the research to get and use the Continuous watts in pairing the equipment correctly.

The 210 can easily be safely run alone with the 800 HD by keeping the volume down. The head, only when fully cranked up, can output up to 400W Continous into that single 8 ohm cab. But, although this is technically over the formal 350W Continuous rating of the 210 cab, it is the exact same speakers that Fender builds into the Rumble Stage 800 combo, which can also output up to 400W Continuous into its speakers. Therefore, apparently Fender is confident, from it's testing and field experience, that the 210 cab can safely handle up to 400W Continuous! It is anyone's guess why they haven't formally changed that rating from 350W Continuous to 400W Continuous.

The Rumble V3 410 is, indeed, 8 ohms & 500W Continuous. So, it will have no trouble taking the 400W Continuous that the 800 HD can throw at it. So, to get the full 800W Continuous out of the 800 HD, the 410 and 210 would be fine, since each can handle up to 400W Continuous. Since they are both 8 ohms, they each get half the 4 ohm load.​

... ... On paper according to fender manual, the 2x10 can only be used by itself. ... ...


Whoa, right there! I don’t find anything like that in the Rumble 210 cabinet manual. There is no problem using 2 of them with a 4 ohm amp, or 4 of them with a 2 ohm amp (like your 800 HD).

Please quote what you're reading that seems to say this. :confused:

... ... the 2x10 ... It's rated at 8 ohms & 350W Continuous and 700 watts Program but the Amp says 800W Continuous minimum at 4 ohms, which is what I'll have if I connect the 4x10 8 ohm cab in addition to the 2x10. ... ...


Yes, connecting both 8 ohm cabs to the 800 HD gives it a 4 ohm load and can draw up to 800W Continuous from the amp. Fortunately, each 8 ohm cab can only receive half of however much the amp is putting out. And so, in this case with a 210 and a 410, there should be no problems, as explained above.​

... ... Is it strongly recommended to not use the 8 ohm 350 watt Continuous, 700 watt Program, cab when minimum power rating is 800W Continuous at 4 ohms, or is it done frequently? ... ...


No problem, in this case, as explained above. The most the 210 cab can receive, whether alone as an 8 ohm load, or with the 410 cab in a 4 ohm load, is 400W Continuous. And the manufacturer is apparently comfortable with that, as explained above.

Of course, you can always turn the volume down from the maximum, and probably always will, which will send less than the maximum power to the speakers! Some people say that a half volume setting sends 75-85% power to the speakers, so it is not a linear relationship. But, experienced musicians can often safely run underrated cabs with high powered amps by keeping the volume down. (Not that this is necessary in your case.)​

... ... Thanks and Happy New Year to You !!!
Joe


Same to you and yours, Joe.
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