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My main beef with Fender is that the warranty seems to have become non-transferable. This means I won't be getting that lightly used Studio 40 I'd hoped for.
Anyone see this review /comparison?
Longwinded but scroll to 8mins when they play /compare the 2 amps. THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A RUMBLE ON 'FLAT' EQ !!?!?!
So far off, its like they rigged the sound to boost sales of the new Katana.
Plus a pointless comparison not to match with a studio 40, with all the features, effects....
Longwinded but scroll to 8mins when they play /compare the 2 amps. THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A RUMBLE ON 'FLAT' EQ !!?!?!
So far off, its like they rigged the sound to boost sales of the new Katana.
Plus a pointless comparison not to match with a studio 40, with all the features, effects....
Easy for me w/o even listening. The one(s) that I already have: R40, R100, R200c, and 22y/o Bassman 25.
I have a 15, 100, and 200. I wish my 15 was a 40! I have also owned a vintage tube Bassman in the past.
I saw this before demo-ing the Rumble. Pick up a Katana in the store and all it’s effects will seem pointless, lol. It’s a TANK!
plus the way the Katana effects are laid out is not as practical as the S40. I’m delighted with the S40, thump on!
Well, in all fairness, they did say they were going to make a more in-depth review of the Studio 40 at a later stage. I thought the review was decent enough as far as it went, but it was really more of a demo than a proper in-depth review.
On a related note, reviews are reviews, IMO. We shouldn’t expect them to mirror our own opinions of a product, and we shouldn’t assume that the reviewers are biased or dishonest just because we disagree with their conclusions. I’m sure Andertons don’t care whether they sell Rumbles or Katanas, as long as they sell something.
The order I got mine was B25, 200c, 40(when the 25 'acted up'-since fixed), 100. The 100 gets the most use these days. Someday I might get a second 100 to 'daisy chain', but right now, no. I don't 'need' the 200c for any of the rooms we currently play. BTW, we never go FOH. No place has PA-or soundmen. Or backline.
I daisy chained my 100 to my 200 at an outdoor gig recently when I filled in for a local band. Two 100s would have done just fine also. They did send the 100 to the board so the guitar player/soundman could do whatever he needed to do, but it wasn't really necessary. Honestly, at my age, if I were to need more than the 100 or 200 for an indoor gig, I'm the wrong guy anyway.
Agreed. Andertons “reviews” are often glorified demos with a bunch on antics, all good fun. If they have a few products in the clip, the guys may pick their favorites but rarely do they point out anything negative on their videos. I subscribe to their channel and enjoy their content as they often look at aspects not covered elsewhere.
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I found this Rumble video and, from the title, really looked forward to it. However, since he puts down the smaller combos early on, I began to wonder if he was gonna like any of them. Says the 100 is the smallest worth buying. He does seem very impressed with the power of the 200 and, especially, the Stage 800, as if those combos alone can put out their full power! However, he does mention that the 500 is only 350 watts alone and needs an extension cab for the full 500, but never lets on about the same situation for the 200 & Stage 800. He actually owns and really likes the plain, simple 500.
But he comes down very hard on the 15, 25 & 40 as too small and on the LT25, Studio 40 and Stage 800 for all the complicated modeling, Bluetooth app control, wifi updating, and extra cost. While he's certainly entitled to his opinions, which many here may agree with, I don't think it's very fair, much less "the ultimate", to include such strong opinions in a "buyer's guide".
Edited to add: There are no sound samples here, either! It's all just feature descriptions and opinions.
So, if you're interested, here's The Ultimate [Opinionated] Fender Rumble Buyer's Guide.
What do you think?
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I found this Rumble video and, from the title, really looked forward to it. However, since he puts down the smaller combos early on, I began to wonder if he was gonna like any of them. Says the 100 is the smallest worth buying. He does seem very impressed with the power of the 200 and, especially, the Stage 800, as if those combos alone can put out their full power! However, he does mention that the 500 is only 350 watts alone and needs an extension cab for the full 500, but never lets on about the same situation for the 200 & Stage 800. He actually owns and really likes the plain, simple 500.
But he comes down very hard on the 15, 25 & 40 as too small and on the LT25, Studio 40 and Stage 800 for all the complicated modeling, Bluetooth app control, wifi updating, and extra cost. While he's certainly entitled to his opinions, which many here may agree with, I don't think it's very fair, much less "the ultimate", to include such strong opinions in a "buyer's guide".
Edited to add: There are no sound samples here, either! It's all just feature descriptions and opinions.
So, if you're interested, here's The Ultimate [Opinionated] Fender Rumble Buyer's Guide.
What do you think?
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I'm not flat out mindlessly attacking Andertons. I use them myself for buying stuff and regularly sing their praises for advice and quality of service. I bought my original Rumble 500c from them.
But c'mon, that does not sound like a Rumble on 'flat' eq at 8.10 mins.....thin, weak, no bottom end.... Something isn't right there with the sound. Never heard a Rumble sound so 'insignficant'.
I watched most of these before getting to a store to try them out. They give you a vague idea, but YMMV. Adding details from TB about things like punchyness and articulation, I got to the store with a good idea as to where I was going. They had Blackstar and Katana there if I wanted to try but I was minded toward the Rumbles.
My advice is to get an idea of what you need to do now and in the near future. Get some opinions but carry in open mindedness. Then sit and see which one you connect with. Of course needed volume should be your minimum threshold and go from there.
If the 40c had of had an effects loop it would have trumped all, but the versatility of the S40 won out for me.
Nothing personal - it was more of a general observation.
However, the Studio 40 can sound very different from a regular Rumble depending on the preset, and as the video doesn’t show which one, it’s difficult to make an accurate judgement, which is another reason that I think we shouldn’t take reviews like this too seriously.
I think the ultimate Rumble buyer's guide is right here with us. No one on this planet has more gathered knowledge of the Rumbles than the Fender Rumble Club collectively. We may be a little biased due to our real-life experiences, but we are certainly not shy about sharing our wealth of information.
Amen, brother T! (BTW, are you and JakobT related?
)I'd like to think that fairness and frankness is what This Club, indeed TalkBass, is all about. Of course, most of us Rumble owners like, or even love, our Rumbles, and maybe even other Rumbles. But we don't try to beat everyone into submission about it. We gots lotsa tips and ideas to share if you want. But we realize that, for some, Rumbles just ain't their cuppa tea, ... and that's ... OK. (as Stuart Smalley used to say)
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I saw this video when it first came out, and I found it to be a reasonably accurate rundown on the features of each model. Being a gigging bassist, he is pretty clear about why he’s not into the smaller models, and from a gigging perspective, he’s not actually wrong. In fact, I don’t really think he’s «coming down hard» on the smaller Rumbles at all, he’s just stating what he personally would find useful, and why.
I had the opportunity to play through another guy's 2xR100s once. I loved the sound of 2x12s.
