Fender Rumble Club

[trseal]

Yep outside shows almost anywhere in summer in Florida are hot, ocean breeze or not, but the breeze sure can help!

If I were on an outdoor stage 1. I’d send the crowd running but 2. I’d have a big fan as part of my loadout.

Our band hosted a large-ish outdoor event/party this past Saturday in the northern California heat. We opened the event at 4PM (peak heat) but the BL had the foresight to rent a giant swamp cooler for our outdoor stage. Made a HUGE difference! Fortunately, we are a classic rock band so once we hit that 1st note that swamp cooler didn't stand a chance of being heard! That's it back in the corner with the hat on.

Btw, had the R800+R210 (altho Low Power mode) and it rocked the county. The guest band (headliner), Tommy Peacock Band used my Rumbles for their 4-hr show. Man! It sounded great!! The band playing in the pic is TPB.

Tim

 

[GonePlaid]

Our band hosted a large-ish outdoor event/party this past Saturday in the northern California heat. We opened the event at 4PM (peak heat) but the BL had the foresight to rent a giant swamp cooler for our outdoor stage. Made a HUGE difference! Fortunately, we are a classic rock band so once we hit that 1st note that swamp cooler didn't stand a chance of being heard! That's it back in the corner with the hat on.

Btw, had the R800+R210 (altho Low Power mode) and it rocked the county. The guest band (headliner), Tommy Peacock Band used my Rumbles for their 4-hr show. Man! It sounded great!! The band playing in the pic is TPB.View attachment 5475154 View attachment 5475155

Tim

Cool! Or...well, you know.

 

[dORSY]

mostly/a lot of reggae or similar tone? Big, cleanish, articulated notes focusing on the low end frequencies

I do not EQ differently for the 4-5 songs we play having reggie(ish?) tones/parts. With the most versatile bass on the earth: kit built P w/ quality pickup I only roll down a bit of tone (not always, depends on the other parts of song) and use my left hand to palm mute/thumb pick.
Playing over the fretboard could also work (more away from bridge, closer to the middle of stings).

which really reduces the volume for a style requiring a soft touch.

If Your volume is low, turn it up! Also add a little "gain" if needed. Note that the gain near Your input jack is basically a variable pad for "compensating for high input basses", it does not add any distorsion/overdrive itself.

Also curious about other reggae (or sim tone) eq setting for rumble. I am also using a HPF to experiment with highlighting bass eq, and improving articulation.

I don't use HPF for that. But I always use a compressor pedal when playing reggie tones.

Edit: "my" go-to guide for understanding bass freqs/EQ, it's not always intuitive/obvious.


Hope this helps! Happy playing!

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

I do not EQ differently for the 4-5 songs we play having reggie(ish?) tones/parts. With the most versatile bass on the earth: kit built P w/ quality pickup I only roll down a bit of tone (not always, depends on the other parts of song) and use my left hand to palm mute/thumb pick.
Playing over the fretboard could also work (more away from bridge, closer to the middle of stings).


If Your volume is low, turn it up! Also add a little "gain" if needed. Note that the gain near Your input jack is basically a variable pad for "compensating for high input basses", it does not add any distorsion/overdrive itself.


I don't use HPF for that. But I always use a compressor pedal when playing reggie tones.

Edit: "my" go-to guide for understanding bass freqs/EQ, it's not always intuitive/obvious.


Hope this helps! Happy playing!

If Your volume is low, turn it up! Also add a little "gain" if needed. Note that the gain near Your input jack is basically a variable pad for "compensating for high input basses", it does not add any distorsion/overdrive itself.e itself - Not quite true. The higher you set your gain, the stronger the signal is that is being sent to the preamp section. If you overdrive the preamp, you will get some mild distortion. This is useful for adding a bit of "grit" to your tone.

 

[JakobT]

If Your volume is low, turn it up! Also add a little "gain" if needed. Note that the gain near Your input jack is basically a variable pad for "compensating for high input basses", it does not add any distorsion/overdrive itself.e itself - Not quite true. The higher you set your gain, the stronger the signal is that is being sent to the preamp section. If you overdrive the preamp, you will get some mild distortion. This is useful for adding a bit of "grit" to your tone.

Also, if you do use the built-in overdrive, the amount of gain will affect the distortion level of the overdrive.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... ... If Your volume is low, turn it up! Also add a little "gain" if needed. Note that the gain near Your input jack is basically a variable pad for "compensating for high input basses", it does not add any distorsion/overdrive itself.
... ... Hope this helps! Happy playing!

... - Not quite true. The higher you set your gain, the stronger the signal is that is being sent to the preamp section. If you overdrive the preamp, you will get some mild distortion. This is useful for adding a bit of "grit" to your tone.

Also, if you do use the built-in overdrive, the amount of gain will affect the distortion level of the overdrive.

Per the manual, the Gain will affect the distortion and compression of the Vintage and Overdrive.

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[Miles_ONeal]

Per the manual, the Gain will affect the distortion and compression of the Vintage and Overdrive.

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Confusing the issue with facts again…

 

[GonePlaid]

Confusing the issue with facts again…

Yeah. I always use VINTAGE and keep my GAIN below 12 'cos I want mostly clean. In fact, closer to 10 then bump up MASTER, prn.

 

[FearNoEvil65]

I never use any of the tone buttons, if I use VINTAGE with most of my basses it distorts. Even with the gain turned down. Maybe I'll try again with one of my passive basses that has a weaker signal output. Possibly it's that I have the Rumble 200 with 15inch speaker, maybe the 210 setup sounds better with more mids and bass or whatever the VINTAGE button pushes. Sounds like bass and possibly low mids to me?
Lots of people seem to like the VINTAGE button sound.

 

[J-Bassomatic]

I never use any of the tone buttons, if I use VINTAGE with most of my basses it distorts. Even with the gain turned down. Maybe I'll try again with one of my passive basses that has a weaker signal output. Possibly it's that I have the Rumble 200 with 15inch speaker, maybe the 210 setup sounds better with more mids and bass or whatever the VINTAGE button pushes. Sounds like bass and possibly low mids to me?
Lots of people seem to like the VINTAGE button sound.

This is interesting. I was experimenting with the 'buttons' on my Rumble 800 head one day. Later, I was playing along to some of my fave tunes and I noticed that the bass (MIM J-bass) was sounding unusually good. When I looked at the settings I noticed that the Vintage button was engaged and I had totally forgotten about it. So, yeah, it's now on all the time.
EDIT: Gain is at noon. Bass is at 11, low mid is at noon, high mid is at 1 treble is at 2. (these are o'clock)

 

[FearNoEvil65]

This is interesting. I was experimenting with the 'buttons' on my Rumble 800 head one day. Later, I was playing along to some of my fave tunes and I noticed that the bass (MIM J-bass) was sounding unusually good. When I looked at the settings I noticed that the Vintage button was engaged and I had totally forgotten about it. So, yeah, it's now on all the time.
EDIT: Gain is at noon. Bass is at 11, low mid is at noon, high mid is at 1 treble is at 2. (these are o'clock)

The basses I've been playing are my G&L's with MFD pickups and my Lakland 44-02 and they all have super powerful signal outputs, it distorts with the gain below noon if I have the VINTAGE engaged. I'm going to go back later and play around with it, and try my Jazz bass that has much lower signal output.

 

[G-Dog]

Confusing the issue with facts again…

Brace yourself!

All this talk of the Vintage button sent me to the manual again. It's listed there as:

VINTAGE: Dynamic compression (-9dB max) with low pass (-6dB/oct) @ 400Hz​

We've all heard of the "dynamic compression" of the Delta-Comp™ circuit, right? But, I always thought it was always On. I'm still not sure that turning Off the Vintage button turns it Off, though. Maybe this is some kind of a boost of it?

And we've previously discussed the 2nd Order HPF shown on the block diagram. But this is the first time I've really noticed this Low Pass Filter @ 400Hz! But it was actually introduced in a 2014 Rumble Talk. Well, whatdaya know?

And, of course, this discussion isn't complete without reference to the Vintage button's frequency curve, showing essentially no change in the low frequencies but with suppressed high frequencies! I guess that's to be expected of the LPF.

As you were.
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[GonePlaid]

I never use any of the tone buttons, if I use VINTAGE with most of my basses it distorts. Even with the gain turned down. Maybe I'll try again with one of my passive basses that has a weaker signal output. Possibly it's that I have the Rumble 200 with 15inch speaker, maybe the 210 setup sounds better with more mids and bass or whatever the VINTAGE button pushes. Sounds like bass and possibly low mids to me?
Lots of people seem to like the VINTAGE button sound.

4 out 5 of my basses are passive. The fifth is my least played bass(LPB2/5).

 

[GonePlaid]

Brace yourself!

All this talk of the Vintage button sent me to the manual again. It's listed there as:

VINTAGE: Dynamic compression (-9dB max) with low pass (-6dB/oct) @ 400Hz​

We've all heard of the "dynamic compression" of the Delta-Comp™ circuit, right? But, I always thought it was always On. I'm still not sure that turning Off the Vintage button turns it Off, though. Maybe this is some kind of a boost of it?

And we've previously discussed the 2nd Order HPF shown on the block diagram. But this is the first time I've really noticed this Low Pass Filter @ 400Hz! But it was actually introduced in a 2014 Rumble Talk. Well, whatdaya know?

And, of course, this discussion isn't complete without reference to the Vintage button's frequency curve, showing essentially no change in the low frequencies but with suppressed high frequencies! I guess that's to be expected of the LPF.

As you were.
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All this "technobabble". I just know it sounds more like what I wanna hear with VINTAGE in/on. Fuller/meatier/whatever and close to the vaguely remembered sound of my 63 piggyback Bassman 'cept louder.

 

[FearNoEvil65]

Brace yourself!

All this talk of the Vintage button sent me to the manual again. It's listed there as:

VINTAGE: Dynamic compression (-9dB max) with low pass (-6dB/oct) @ 400Hz​

We've all heard of the "dynamic compression" of the Delta-Comp™ circuit, right? But, I always thought it was always On. I'm still not sure that turning Off the Vintage button turns it Off, though. Maybe this is some kind of a boost of it?

And we've previously discussed the 2nd Order HPF shown on the block diagram. But this is the first time I've really noticed this Low Pass Filter @ 400Hz! But it was actually introduced in a 2014 Rumble Talk. Well, whatdaya know?

And, of course, this discussion isn't complete without reference to the Vintage button's frequency curve, showing essentially no change in the low frequencies but with suppressed high frequencies! I guess that's to be expected of the LPF.

As you were.
.

Interesting and the opposite of what I thought but makes sense, the higher frequencies are reduced so the lows stand out more. I'm definetely going to be playing around with the VINTAGE button more.

 

[13bass]

Brace yourself!

All this talk of the Vintage button sent me to the manual again. It's listed there as:

VINTAGE: Dynamic compression (-9dB max) with low pass (-6dB/oct) @ 400Hz​

We've all heard of the "dynamic compression" of the Delta-Comp™ circuit, right? But, I always thought it was always On. I'm still not sure that turning Off the Vintage button turns it Off, though. Maybe this is some kind of a boost of it?

And we've previously discussed the 2nd Order HPF shown on the block diagram. But this is the first time I've really noticed this Low Pass Filter @ 400Hz! But it was actually introduced in a 2014 Rumble Talk. Well, whatdaya know?

And, of course, this discussion isn't complete without reference to the Vintage button's frequency curve, showing essentially no change in the low frequencies but with suppressed high frequencies! I guess that's to be expected of the LPF.

As you were.
.

One might think that with the widespread popularity of the Rumble amps, that Fender (or somebody!!) would produce a detailed quality video actually explaining in bunches of detail what, exactly, is happening with each button, and with each knob?!?! You know, with charts and graphs and sound samples and probably pretty women in bikinis pointing at things when they are mentioned!!! The whole shebang!

 

[GonePlaid]

One might think that with the widespread popularity of the Rumble amps, that Fender (or somebody!!) would produce a detailed quality video actually explaining in bunches of detail what, exactly, is happening with each button, and with each knob?!?! You know, with charts and graphs and sound samples and probably pretty women in bikinis pointing at things when they are mentioned!!! The whole shebang!

Nah. Never happen(makes too much sense).

 

[GonePlaid]

Interesting and the opposite of what I thought but makes sense, the higher frequencies are reduced so the lows stand out more. I'm definetely going to be playing around with the VINTAGE button more.

I should've mentioned that I'll often add the BRIGHT button for presence in boomier rooms.

 

[G-Dog]

One might think that with the widespread popularity of the Rumble amps, that Fender (or somebody!!) would produce a detailed quality video actually explaining in bunches of detail what, exactly, is happening with each button, and with each knob?!?! You know, with charts and graphs and sound samples and probably pretty women in bikinis pointing at things when they are mentioned!!! The whole shebang!

Nah. Never happen(makes too much sense).

Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!​

Thank you, @13bass, for this idea. 13, your idea triggered an edit of the [Video] links on the Rumble Club Wiki page at the top of the Rumble V3 Reviews section, with some broken links removed, and some New links added. I think most of the info you seek is presented there, if not in the ways you wish. (Sorry, I couldn't find any Rumble videos with bikinis.) But, this is a needed update to the Rumble Wiki in particular, and to the advancement of Rumble knowledge in general!

Thanks, 13, for your brilliance and for sharing with our great community.

Rumble On!​

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[J-Bassomatic]

The basses I've been playing are my G&L's with MFD pickups and my Lakland 44-02 and they all have super powerful signal outputs, it distorts with the gain below noon if I have the VINTAGE engaged. I'm going to go back later and play around with it, and try my Jazz bass that has much lower signal output.

Yeah, maybe I should have mentioned, my J is passive!