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Hi everyone, I'm writing here a problem with my Rumble 500 combo. The bass signal enters the DI (a brand new bss ar-133) powered with phantom, then from the link output it goes to the combo. The strange thing is that if I disconnect the cable from the combo input I hear a loud noise in the PA, why do you think? Thanks to those who will help me!

Which end of which cable are you unplugging (and why), and what is the noise you hear?
 
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Please help us understand your setup. I guess your bass plugs into your DI, which plugs into both your Rumble and your PA? Is that right? If so, perhaps you should unplug the DI from the PA first?

How about telling us a bit about yourself, paolo, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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Thank you so much for you reply! Yes my bass plugs into DI which plugs both into Rumble and PA... But why, if I unplug the Rumble, I hear a big noise from PA?

About me, I live in Italy, near Venice, I've been playing bass for about 25 years, in various bands, especially covers. I like rock, pop and funk music. This amplifier has become the only amplifier for me this year, because in small places has a more than sufficient power, and in larger places I use in-ear and therefore I need amplifier only for my peace of mind :-)
 
Hi, the one that plugs into the combo, to exclude it (I know that I can turn down the volume, but for convenience I prefer to unplug the cable from the amp input). I hear a noise like I'm unplugging the cable from the bass...
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you are unplugging the cable from your amplifier, while the amplifier is still on. If you do that, there will indeed be a loud noise from the amplifier. Maybe you are hearing the noise from the amplifier, not the PA?
 
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Hi, the one that plugs into the combo, to exclude it (I know that I can turn down the volume, but for convenience I prefer to unplug the cable from the amp input). I hear a noise like I'm unplugging the cable from the bass...

Yes, that's perfectly normal. You get a pop from the connection breaking, then hum/noise as the input is an open circuit until the plug is out and the jack grounds itself.

If you have a pedal tuner, just stomp into tuning mode. If you are not using the Rumble OD, just leave both knobs down and click on or off the OD; that way it acts as a mute switch.
 
I've never used a DI and an amp at the same time, so I may have a misunderstanding how this works... But it sounds like Paolo has a DI between his bass and his amp. Shouldn't he only be hearing the pop of unplugging through his amp and not the PA?

I do think muting with the OD switch would stop this from happening. But if I have the correct understanding of how a DI should behave when in front of an amp, it sounds like there's something strange going on in Paolo's setup.
 
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. ... . ... . , I'm writing here a problem with my Rumble 500 combo. The bass signal enters the DI (a brand new bss ar-133) powered with phantom, then from the link output it goes to the combo. The strange thing is that if I disconnect the cable from the combo input I hear a loud noise in the PA, why do you think? Thanks to those who will help me!

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Please help us understand your setup. I guess your bass plugs into your DI, which plugs into both your Rumble and your PA? Is that right? If so, perhaps you should unplug the DI from the PA first? . ... . ... .

Which end of which cable are you unplugging (and why), and what is the noise you hear?

Thank you so much for you reply! Yes my bass plugs into DI which plugs both into Rumble and PA... But why, if I unplug the Rumble, I hear a big noise from PA? . ... . ... .

Hi, the one that plugs into the combo, to exclude it (I know that I can turn down the volume, but for convenience I prefer to unplug the cable from the amp input). I hear a noise like I'm unplugging the cable from the bass...

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you are unplugging the cable from your amplifier, while the amplifier is still on. If you do that, there will indeed be a loud noise from the amplifier. Maybe you are hearing the noise from the amplifier, not the PA?

Yes, that's perfectly normal. You get a pop from the connection breaking, then hum/noise as the input is an open circuit until the plug is out and the jack grounds itself.

If you have a pedal tuner, just stomp into tuning mode. If you are not using the Rumble OD, just leave both knobs down and click on or off the OD; that way it acts as a mute switch.

Right, that OD mute trick alone is worth the price of a Rumble.

To clarify, OD knobs zeroed, OD switch ON to mute.
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Yes indeed, and the OD switch being the footswitch that plugs into the "FTSW" input jack on the back of the amp.

OR, the OD switch being the Overdrive button on top of the amp.

. ... . ... . ... . I do think muting with the OD switch would stop this from happening. But if I have the correct understanding of how a DI should behave when in front of an amp, it sounds like there's something strange going on in Paolo's setup.

Also@paolo176 , what does this DI box give you that you don't have? The Rumble 500 combo (any Rumble combo from the 40 up) has a DI output.


To summarize:

A. paolo, you plug your bass into your DI, and your DI into the PA and the Rumble.

2. You want to stop using the Rumble while still using the PA.
2.a. You don't want to turn down the Rumble's volume (or power it off) first.
2.¢. So, you unplug the instrument cable to the Rumble.
2.¢.# You see this as the most convenient way to accomplish this.
2.¢.@ You prefer this method.
2.¢.% Doing this makes a big, loud noise in the PA.
2.¢.& Why?
2.¢.&.i. Why does it do this?
2.¢.&.i.π Maybe the short of unplugging the amp Input is traveling backwards through the DI to the PA?
2.¢.&.i.π.∆. Maybe something is wrong with the DI?​
2.¢.&.ii. Why do you prefer this if the noise is annoying?
2.¢.&.iii. Why not turn down the Volume or turn off the amp to avoid the noise?
2.¢.&.iv. Why is convenience more important than preventing noise.
2.¢.&.v. Why not use the Rumble's XLR Out instead of the external DI?
2.¢.&.v.¿. You could plug something into the Headphone jack to mute the amp while still going through the PA.​
III. Most Rumblers here suggest muting the Rumble before pulling the plug.
III.e. Turn the Drive & Level knobs fully counterclockwise.
III.f. Use the Overdrive button (or a footswitch) to mute, or un-mute, the Rumble.
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