Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

I went to a semi-local music store today, took my Cort B5 Element with EB Cobalt Flats, and checked out the Rumble 500c and 200c. ... ...

Hmmm, I wonder what was wrong with the 200c you tried! Don't think I've ever read such a blah review about any other 200c.

Of course I could be biased, since my 10-1/2 year old R500c has been so great to me all these years, but I agree it would serve you quite well.

 

[GonePlaid]

Hmmm, I wonder what was wrong with the 200c you tried! Don't think I've ever read such a blah review about any other 200c.

Of course I could be biased, since my 10-1/2 year old R500c has been so great to me all these years, but I agree it would serve you quite well.

Agreed. The onliest complaint I have about my 2015 200c is the 12.5# more than my 100.

 

[MadJack]

I went to a semi-local music store today, took my Cort B5 Element with EB Cobalt Flats, and checked out the Rumble 500c and 200c.

I set both amps to the official Rumble Club flat tone settings, made sure the preset tone switches were all out, set the gain knobs to 12 o'clock, then adjusted the master volume to a decent level.

The preamp on my Cort was not flat, I had adjusted it to fit my tone preference through my Xenyx 502 mixer with Sennheiser On-ear headphones.

After checking the low 'B' through the 500c, I backed the bass control off just a bit on my Cort.

The 200c did not seem to be handling my low 'B' string very well, it did not really distort, it just sounded like it was struggling, and I wasn't pushing the amp at all - the Master control was at about 10 o'clock.

The 500c sounded very good throughout the range of my bass, with a decently solid low 'B'.

I was hoping they would have an 800c, but no such luck.

Considering that I don't think I will ever play in a band that would need more SPL than the 500c can dish out, I don't really see the point in the extra 50W that the 800c gives at 8 Ohm.

I know people say the 800c has better definition over the 500c, but to me, the 500c sounded fine.

I don't have audiophile ears, by any means, so I some of you have different results then, this is just my feeble perceptions.

Rumble On...

This is only my theory, gleaned from my experience with my 200 Head and my 115 & 210 cabs.
The 115 does seem to struggle with the B string on my fiver, but does great with my fours. I think that the B is just a tad too much for the 115. While it is warmer and fuller sounding, it might be just too much for the B string. My 210 handles it much better. Maybe the 10's can handle the longer sound waves better, since they have less mass to move and can respond to the longer travel of the lower notes.
I run both cabs and the issue is greatly reduced, probably due to the signal being distributed through both cabs.

 

[G-Dog]

This is only my theory, gleaned from my experience with my 200 Head and my 115 & 210 cabs.
The 115 does seem to struggle with the B string on my fiver, but does great with my fours. I think that the B is just a tad too much for the 115. While it is warmer and fuller sounding, it might be just too much for the B string. My 210 handles it much better. Maybe the 10's can handle the longer sound waves better, since they have less mass to move and can respond to the longer travel of the lower notes.
I run both cabs and the issue is greatly reduced, probably due to the signal being distributed through both cabs.

You may have a point there, Jack. My R500c, with 2x10" certainly has no problem with all my low B strings. LIKEwise, my Rumble Studio 40, with 1x10", has no problem with them, either. I only wish I had a R200c, or a 115 cab, to get that direct experience.

But, I would believe it must be more of an EQ problem, if not a specific unit problem, than a global speaker problem. Surely that 300 watt 1x15" can handle a properly EQ'd low B string, or we would have heard more about it already, wouldn't we have? There are just too many well loved R200c and 115 cabs out in the wild to imagine that they would all systematically have trouble with a low B string. I'm sure the insightful membership here would have spotted such an egregious situation, if it truly exists, long before now and raised the appropriate ruckus, n'est pas?

 

[John D Harris]

This is only my theory, gleaned from my experience with my 200 Head and my 115 & 210 cabs.
The 115 does seem to struggle with the B string on my fiver, but does great with my fours. I think that the B is just a tad too much for the 115. While it is warmer and fuller sounding, it might be just too much for the B string. My 210 handles it much better. Maybe the 10's can handle the longer sound waves better, since they have less mass to move and can respond to the longer travel of the lower notes.
I run both cabs and the issue is greatly reduced, probably due to the signal being distributed through both cabs.

No, it wouldn't be based on driver size, I've had 10's, 12's, & 15's that all handled low 'B' fine.

I'm sure I could have backed off the bass control on my Cort a bit more & it would probably have been OK.

I just figured it was a fairly level playing field since I'm pretty sure the preamp sections of those two amps were probably identical - just different power amp sections & driver(s).

I really don't like a flubby, boomy low end, so I did not have my Cort preamp set in a whacky way.

The 200c did not suck on low 'B', it just didn't give me what I like to hear - a solid, hefty, but tight low 'B' with the same preamp settings between the 500c and the 200c.

The midrange may have been better (richer) on the 200c, but both midranges were OK.

 

[EncoremMP]

So I finally bought a 2nd R100 V3 to chain with my 3 year old R100 V3. This seemed to work great and as expected.

But, when trying the new combo out by itself, I connected my pedalboard to the effects return. To my surprise, the master volume from the amp actually functioned (all other controls did not, as expected). On my older combo, all controls, including the master are not functional and I control volume through my pedals and bass,

I then noticed that my new combo had a pre/post button that my old combo did not.

So, I then went to the Fender website to look up the Rumble combo manual to see if there were updates. And this may have been discussed before and I missed it. Apparently Fender changed the power supply and amp module sometime over the past couple of years. This resulted in a change from an 8ohm speaker to a 4 ohm speaker as well as the addition of a pre/post/ button on the DI. There is no other mention of any other updates, but I am wondering, could the use of only the effect return being used allow for the Master on the amp to be functional also be an update? Or is my new combo defective?

 

[G-Dog]

... ... ... To my surprise, the master volume from the amp actually functioned (all other controls did not, as expected). On my older combo, all controls, including the master are not functional and I control volume through my pedals and bass,

I then noticed that my new combo had a pre/post button that my old combo did not.

So, I then went to the Fender website to look up the Rumble combo manual to see if there were updates. ... .... Apparently Fender changed the power supply and amp module sometime over the past couple of years. This resulted in a change from an 8ohm speaker to a 4 ohm speaker as well as the addition of a pre/post/ button on the DI. There is no other mention of any other updates, but I am wondering, could the use of only the effect return being used allow for the Master on the amp to be functional also be an update? Or is my new combo defective?

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Well, I'll danged! "Dang me. Dang me. They oughta take a rope and hang me. ... ... "

Under the "Downloads" on the Rumble 100 webpage there is, indeed, a link to the Rumble Owner's Manual Addendum document, © 2022, named OM_2370400900_Rumble-100_ADD.pdf!!! So, from the name of the doc, it is only for some Rumble 100 combo amps!! I did NOT find that link on any other 7ender webpage for any other model!

Thanks for this notification, MP.

 

[EncoremMP]

And here’s a pic of my new R100 with pre/post.

 

[GonePlaid]

Well, I'll danged! "Dang me. Dang me. They oughta take a rope and hang me. ... ... "

Under the "Downloads" on the Rumble 100 webpage there is, indeed, a link to the Rumble Owner's Manual Addendum document, © 2022, named OM_2370400900_Rumble-100_ADD.pdf!!! So, from the name of the doc, it is only for some Rumble 100 combo amps!! I did NOT find that link on any other 7ender webpage for any other model!

Thanks for this notification, MP.

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Hmm. Good thing I wasn't gonna buy a new second R100.

 

[G-Dog]

So I finally bought a 2nd R100 V3 to chain with my 3 year old R100 V3. This seemed to work great and as expected.

But, when trying the new combo out by itself, I connected my pedalboard to the effects return. To my surprise, the master volume from the amp actually functioned (all other controls did not, as expected). On my older combo, all controls, including the master are not functional and I control volume through my pedals and bass,

I then noticed that my new combo had a pre/post button that my old combo did not.

So, I then went to the Fender website to look up the Rumble combo manual to see if there were updates. And this may have been discussed before and I missed it. Apparently Fender changed the power supply and amp module sometime over the past couple of years. This resulted in a change from an 8ohm speaker to a 4 ohm speaker as well as the addition of a pre/post/ button on the DI. There is no other mention of any other updates, but I am wondering, could the use of only the effect return being used allow for the Master on the amp to be functional also be an update? Or is my new combo defective?

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Well, I'll danged! "Dang me. Dang me. They oughta take a rope and hang me. ... ... "

Under the "Downloads" on the Rumble 100 webpage there is, indeed, a link to the Rumble Owner's Manual Addendum document, © 2022, named OM_2370400900_Rumble-100_ADD.pdf!!! So, from the name of the doc, it is only for some Rumble 100 combo amps!! I did NOT find that link on any other 7ender webpage for any other model!

Thanks for this notification, MP.

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And here’s a pic of my new R100 with pre/post.

Hmm. Good thing I wasn't gonna buy a new second R100.

What, Goner? You wouldn't want the new improvements? I expect most people would.

 

[GonePlaid]

What, Goner? You wouldn't want the new improvements? I expect most people would.

For what I do and see myself doing, not really. Now if someone wanted to gift me one...

 

[PiquetBass]

And here we are at last weekend's Gig in sunny Thrapston, Northamptonshire (UK)...

Player series bass (new pickguard and string tee), and the Rumble 500c providing all the low-end required (which wasn't much in the end - I only needed the gain at 11 and the master between 8-9 clockface!).

 

[richwag]

So my Fender Rumble 500 has started having what would normally seem like a bad jack issue. The sound will sometimes fade out and then come back. I've used multiple different cables so it's not that. Someone suggested jumpering the effects send/return loop. I tried that and it makes no difference.

I did pull the amp unit out and the input jack is soldered directly to the circuit board so feel it's unlikely to be a connector issue.

Anyone had this or have any ideas on what may be going on? Note, this amp is out of warranty.

Thanks.

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Fender Rumble 100 (V3). Enough volume, low end, punchy, clean and articulate as I'm ever going to need. And crazy stupid light, at about 20 lbs.

 

[John D Harris]

So my Fender Rumble 500 has started having what would normally seem like a bad jack issue. The sound will sometimes fade out and then come back. I've used multiple different cables so it's not that. Someone suggested jumpering the effects send/return loop. I tried that and it makes no difference.

I did pull the amp unit out and the input jack is soldered directly to the circuit board so feel it's unlikely to be a connector issue.

Anyone had this or have any ideas on what may be going on? Note, this amp is out of warranty.

Thanks.

Your use of the words "fade out" makes me think it's not a jack problem - there are either electrons flowing or not - i.e. abrupt on / off.

"Fade out" / "fade in", sounds like a problem with some other part of the amp.

 

[G-Dog]

Fender Rumble 100 (V3). Enough volume, low end, punchy, clean and articulate as I'm ever going to need. And crazy stupid light, at about 20 lbs.

Cool, M! @M-Mittlesteadt, you are now member #1788 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

It doesn't have a neodymium speaker, as you incorrectly assumed in your NAD thread. But the Rumble ceramic speakers are quite light.

And how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
.your Rumble Club Wiki page​

 

[Yahboy]

I went to a semi-local music store today, took my Cort B5 Element with EB Cobalt Flats, and checked out the Rumble 500c and 200c.

I set both amps to the official Rumble Club flat tone settings, made sure the preset tone switches were all out, set the gain knobs to 12 o'clock, then adjusted the master volume to a decent level.

The preamp on my Cort was not flat, I had adjusted it to fit my tone preference through my Xenyx 502 mixer with Sennheiser On-ear headphones.

After checking the low 'B' through the 500c, I backed the bass control off just a bit on my Cort.

The 200c did not seem to be handling my low 'B' string very well, it did not really distort, it just sounded like it was struggling, and I wasn't pushing the amp at all - the Master control was at about 10 o'clock.

The 500c sounded very good throughout the range of my bass, with a decently solid low 'B'.

I was hoping they would have an 800c, but no such luck.

Considering that I don't think I will ever play in a band that would need more SPL than the 500c can dish out, I don't really see the point in the extra 50W that the 800c gives at 8 Ohm.

I know people say the 800c has better definition over the 500c, but to me, the 500c sounded fine.

I don't have audiophile ears, by any means, so I some of you have different results then, this is just my feeble perceptions.

Rumble On...

My previous V3 200/150 also can't handle B string ( multi scale ibanez SRFF805 ) well as Hartke KB15. The B string tone just sound a bit loose and i can see the driver vibrate quite crazy like SUB woofer while i play fast note on B string.

To be honest, the V3 200/150 combo work pretty well with Pbass when Vintage button engage ! That's the tone i licking with.

 

[Yahboy]

So I finally bought a 2nd R100 V3 to chain with my 3 year old R100 V3. This seemed to work great and as expected.

But, when trying the new combo out by itself, I connected my pedalboard to the effects return. To my surprise, the master volume from the amp actually functioned (all other controls did not, as expected). On my older combo, all controls, including the master are not functional and I control volume through my pedals and bass,

I then noticed that my new combo had a pre/post button that my old combo did not.

So, I then went to the Fender website to look up the Rumble combo manual to see if there were updates. And this may have been discussed before and I missed it. Apparently Fender changed the power supply and amp module sometime over the past couple of years. This resulted in a change from an 8ohm speaker to a 4 ohm speaker as well as the addition of a pre/post/ button on the DI. There is no other mention of any other updates, but I am wondering, could the use of only the effect return being used allow for the Master on the amp to be functional also be an update? Or is my new combo defective?

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Does this change make new batch R100 sound solid louder than early batch ? Like what @M-Mittlesteadt report on his new R100 combo /

 

[dORSY]

Does this change make new batch R100 sound solid louder than early batch ? Like what @M-Mittlesteadt report on his new R100 combo /

doubt it. afaik (not an expert) the orig. r100 circuit's limited by the power (voltage) supplied to the class-d amplifier section. the class-d chip itself is capable of much more, specially mono (bridged). I think this is the one: https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/TDA8950.pdf
i wonder if it's a repurposed new style 800 amp with a limited power supplied internally and a 4 ohm output. (kind of a permanent 100w swith on)
makes sense from a manufacturing standpoint (more common parts within the product range)
this is the table i'm referring to in the schematics.

 

[dORSY]

wine festival. r100 included