Fender Rumble Club

[joelb79]

My fender rumble story started when I had to sell my PF-500 portaflex and go ampless for a moment. I needed something to get along with, so a Rumble 40 fit the bill. It was NOT loud enough but that tone was perfect. So I searched for a season and ended up selling the 40 after I found a 100 for $110 with a cover. The 100 sounded loud enough and it has even survived a 500 person outdoor event without PA support. But last night at practive I had a revelations, two of them is ALL i need for any situation.

I like to mic mine. I found a Behringer C112 which is a D112 copy for $60. As long as you are cool with sounding absolutely huge in the PA, it works well. Stick it right on the cone and enjoy the fat lows. But beware, its a lot of smiley face so use the "flat" settings to start.

 

[Mvf]

My fender rumble story started when I had to sell my PF-500 portaflex and go ampless for a moment. I needed something to get along with, so a Rumble 40 fit the bill. It was NOT loud enough but that tone was perfect. So I searched for a season and ended up selling the 40 after I found a 100 for $110 with a cover. The 100 sounded loud enough and it has even survived a 500 person outdoor event without PA support. But last night at practive I had a revelations, two of them is ALL i need for any situation.

I like to mic mine. I found a Behringer C112 which is a D112 copy for $60. As long as you are cool with sounding absolutely huge in the PA, it works well. Stick it right on the cone and enjoy the fat lows. But beware, its a lot of smiley face so use the "flat" settings to start.

I regularly use my two ”hundreds” chained. Like here last saturday. Works perfect for the small and medium sized venues we mostly do. My R200c and R500c only get out for the bigger stages.

 

[dORSY]

Love to see so many of us using those 2 x 12" rumble stacks.
Got me so many years to get my 2nd one: have no regrets!

 

[G-Dog]

My fender rumble story started when I had to sell my PF-500 portaflex and go ampless for a moment. ... ... ...

Oh, my! How traumatic was that for you? Had you been a big fan of the Ampeg sound? Condolences, if so.​

... ... I needed something to get along with, so a Rumble 40 fit the bill. It was NOT loud enough but that tone was perfect. So I searched for a season and ended up selling the 40 after I found a 100 for $110 with a cover. The 100 sounded loud enough and it has even survived a 500 person outdoor event without PA support. But last night at practive I had a revelations, two of them is ALL i need for any situation. ... ...

Sounds like you're a real Rumble tone fan now, with no love lost for the Ampeg?​

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Personally, I find my Rumble Studio 40 to be loud enough for much bigger gigs than I would have expected. But, I've got an R500c and/or a Bassman 500 with 115 Neo cab for louder needs.​

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BTW, does your R100 have the Pre/Post button on the back? There are currently both the "haves" and the "have nots" of V3 R100s out in the wild now due to circumstances. And the Master volume control is at different internal locations on the two, so it makes a bit o' difference in their functionality when connected from FX Send to FX Return.​

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... ... I like to mic mine. I found a Behringer C112 which is a D112 copy for $60. As long as you are cool with sounding absolutely huge in the PA, it works well. Stick it right on the cone and enjoy the fat lows. But beware, its a lot of smiley face so use the "flat" settings to start.

Interesting, joel, have you tried the XLR Out on either the R40 or the R100? It has an acclaimed cab sim and is explicitly designed to replace having to use a mic with its inherent crosstalk, interference and feedback issues. Its level is affected by the Master volume levels, on the non-Pre/Post version but not on the Pre/Post version. But many Rumblers find that it's even not really the problem some people think it is, on the non-Pre/Post version.​

 

[Giff]

I was perusing the manual and looking at the block diagram. Does anyone know the cutoff frequency for the HPF just before the DELTA-COMP limiter? Just curious.

 

[G-Dog]

I was perusing the manual and looking at the block diagram. Does anyone know the cutoff frequency for the HPF just before the DELTA-COMP limiter? Just curious.View attachment 7375467

I'm sure someone around here must know that frequency from having tested with their external adjustable HPF but, if so, they haven't posted it, that I'm aware. We have discussed it here but to no resolution.

 

[Giff]

I'm sure someone around here must know that frequency from having tested with their external adjustable HPF but, if so, they haven't posted it, that I'm aware. We have discussed it here but to no resolution.

Thanks!

 

[mapleglo]

Had you been a big fan of the Ampeg sound?

I was a huge Ampeg fan for a long time. I still have a couple of Ampeg rigs, a Micro VR stack, and a PF-800 with a 1/2 SVT stack (a long story)

I also have been rocking an Orange Terror stack for several years.

I have to say that the Rumble has me swayed.

 

[Giff]

I spent the last 45 minutes just tripping out on an improved groove with the Empress Bass Comp, Strymon cloud on the Timeline, and a spacey Reverb on the Blue Sky. It sounded magical! I highly recommend the Empress with your Rumble.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Have any of you Rumblers on the tone quest watched this video linked in the FOREWORD of your Rumble Frequencies Wiki page? If so, what do think of it? Is it helpful, or not?

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I did, and a bit, yes. But I've got a lot of study and practice under my belt, including a recording class.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I think I should join this club, because I just bought my second rumble 100. Two of them stacked is my new rig.

That does it for quite a few of us. Welcome!

 

[joelb79]

Oh, my! How traumatic was that for you? Had you been a big fan of the Ampeg sound? Condolences, if so.​

Sounds like you're a real Rumble tone fan now, with no love lost for the Ampeg?

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Interesting, joel, have you tried the XLR Out on either the R40 or the R100? It has an acclaimed cab sim and is explicitly designed to replace having to use a mic with its inherent crosstalk, interference and feedback issues. Its level is affected by the Master volume levels, on the non-Pre/Post version but not on the Pre/Post version. But many Rumblers find that it's even not really the problem some people think it is, on the non-Pre/Post version.​

No lost love for the ampeg tone. I find them very similar. 500hz smiley face, high-pass filter. The EQ points are where they differ, ampeg using 40hz and 8khz for bass/treble. I think if your hating ampeg tone you are using too much drive and not trying EQ cuts, also probably sucking the mids out with the ultra-low. ultra-hi needs to be covered up it shines best when driven.

Its nice to have options. I have three DI outs and they all have different speaker emulations. But there is some magic to a mic. It's fatter than a DI. I think the phase relationship is a little stronger when you amplify what is coming out instead of emulating it and trying to blend two signals that are different in transients.

 

[joelb79]

That does it for quite a few of us. Welcome!

You can't get by with two of these... IDK. Is it worth doing?

 

[G-Dog]

... ... ... 500hz smiley face, ... ... ...

B4 is approximately 500Hz:​

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... ... Its nice to have options. I have three DI outs and they all have different speaker emulations.

I agree, options are good. But do you have anything against the "DI" built-in? Seems like "what you hear is what the FOH gets" is a good option.​

 

[joelb79]

No issue with it ive used it in the past. I just heard myself go "boom" in the room and was naive with my eq settings and lacking a block diagram in my head. This wiki thread on this amp really has cleared up the holes in my knowledge.

To answer your question, I just always send from the VT Bass DI, its one LESS EQ to send to the house. If I was for some reason pedal-board-less, that DI is getting its hot minute.

 

[joelb79]

I just tried the amp out into my board with the VT Bass simulation disabled. Its identical to the speaker in some ways. More to follow.. its a tool I can use and I now see how I can use it. Ill comment more at some point here about it. Thanks for the heads-up on the DI.

 

[dORSY]

This wiki thread on this amp really has cleared up the holes in my knowledge.

knowledge is power as they say

Had great result with the DI on the rumble, no FoH had any complaints or problems when I used it. The output is a quite good proximation of a mic'd rumble IMO. Maybe a tiny bit of more sub, but to be honest it's just the "better" FoH speakers (and skilled techs I guess?). Moar powa, moar rumble!

I also got a DI pedal with me most of the time if they want it "dry". They never do.

Like 10+ years ago once a tech told me a lot of new bassists just scoop the hell out of their sound/signal, so they got a hard time EQ fixing, cause there were no "tone" to work with, just overwhelming bass and clicky-clacky treble. Might be pleasant solo'd, but hardly work in a band mix.

 

[joelb79]

You should hear my tone. I get accused of having an active P bass but its passive, rounds, and its just dialed in harmonically rich so it sings like a jazz bass.

 

[joelb79]

here's my pedal board into the rumble with the rumble setup flat so relatively scooped sounding for me.

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

You can't get by with two of these... IDK. Is it worth doing?

I no longer play with other musicians who insist on being really loud onstage. A lot of times a single Rumble 100 is all I need, but since these are so incredibly light and small, I use both chained. Essentially a 200 watt 212. No need to get stupid loud with it (though it can), but it does seem fuller with two stacked.

Over the last 45 years I've played in a lot of loud (onstage) bands, but not anymore. Great question...My 2 Rumble 100's can get pretty loud. Any louder than that, it is definitely not worth doing.