Is that a pedal or a preamp? What kind of preamp are you using? I bought an Eden but am not really happy and like the preamp in my 150 c2
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Actually, if we're talking about the V3's, the 12 in the Rumble 100 is Ceramic, not Neo. I like the way that cab sounds with a little extra TLC, but they aren't doing it as an extension cab. Nor do they do a 210 extension cab, which would be the perfect compliment to the Rumble 500.
Pairing any decent 8 ohm extension cab with the Rumble 500 is going to help it out, on three different fronts. First, the total wattage jumps from 350 to 500 watts. Second, the extra speaker(s) in the extension cab will help the stack to move more air, watt-for-watt. Last but not least, the two internal 10's that were working overtime to handle 350 watts, will have a little more headroom, since they will only be shouldering 250 watts out of the total 500 watt output.
Like Linnin says, out of the two cabs offered in the V3 line, the 115 is the logical mate to the Rumble 500. It's similar in size and weight. It handles 300 watts continuous, which means it should handle the 250w per side that the 500 watt head can push into a 4 ohm load. It should be closely matched to the 2 10's in the internal cab efficiency-wise too, so both cabs ought to be pulling their weight. Each of the three woofers would hit their limits at about the same wattage and loudness, so cone breakup, compression and overall tone ought to blend about as well as a mismatched pair can.
The 410 would work as an extension as well. It's 23" wide and 14.5" deep, just like the 115, so stacking with the 500 combo wouldn't be a problem. The 410 would be loafing with only 250 watts to drive it, which would be good for longevity. Also, it would move more air than the 115, watt for watt, so the larger stack would play a little louder.
Still, the big stack seems like overkill. The 410 is much heavier and more expensive than the 115. With only 500 watts to share between the internal and extension cabs, the 410 would never reach even 50% of it's 1000w program/500 watt continuous rating. It would stand a little taller, but the extra 4 or 5 inches would barely be noticeable.
Once again, as Linnin said, the 410 is a more logical pairing with the Rumble 500 head, since that still leaves you with the logical option of adding a second 410 for a 4-ohm, 500-watt 8*10 stack.
Are those still in production?
I don't see them on the Fender website in the Rumble or Bassman series. or at Sweetwater.
Second Generation Rumble cabs and heads were introduced in 2011. The 4 ohm 410 cabs were runaway best sellers at $300 a pop. The Rumble 112 Neo and 2x8 Neo cabs were priced at $400 a piece, and just didn't sell well and were discontinued when the version 3 Rumbles came out. I have not heard the 2x8 cab, but I love the 112. I put an Eminence S2012 Basslite Neo in my Rumble 75. The tone of the Eminence 12" Neo is killer.
Fender Rumble 500 Head ($400) + 2 x Fender Rumble 410 ($400@) = $1,200.00
This is as loud as Fender Rumbles get.
Fender Super Bassman all tube head ($1,800) + 2 x Fender Bassman Pro 410 Neo ($800@) = $3,400.00
This is as loud as Fender Bassman gets. It's not any louder than the Rumble rig, just different and almost three times as expensive.
Take your pick.
Fender Rumbles Don't Cost A Million Bucks. They Just Sound Like They Do.
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Fender Rumble 500 Head ($400) + 2 x Fender Rumble 410 ($400@) = $1,200.00
This is as loud as Fender Rumbles get.
Fender Super Bassman all tube head ($1,800) + 2 x Fender Bassman Pro 410 Neo ($800@) = $3,400.00
This is as loud as Fender Bassman gets. It's not any louder than the Rumble rig, just different and almost three times as expensive.
Take your pick.
Ok ok... sorry for asking so many questions, but will the Rumble 2-10 V3 500 paired with the V3 115 sound great? Will it get me by on a medium to large gig?
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Rumble 112 Neo. I own a pair.
I tried those and they were ok, but the Eden EX112 is a much better sounding cab IMO and costs a lot less.
The pedals in my image are Sansamp BDDI programmable and Korg Pitchblack.
I can't imagine a bass sound (without effects) I wouldn't get from my Rumbles with BDDI. Extremely versatile setup.
Haven't tried Eden but I like my Rumble 112. I didn't like the Rumble 100 v3 combos sound because of 12" speaker but 500H head with 112 Neo is completely different. Tomorrow I may change my mind, though.
I was hoping some other Rumblers would reply, but just like hotbass57 and djasterix have said that they love that set up. 500 full Fender watts into a nice compact bass stack, what's not to like?Thanks
Ok ok... sorry for asking so many questions, but will the Rumble 2-10 V3 500 paired with the V3 115 sound great? Will it get me by on a medium to large gig?
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What's a medium or large gig? Is it 500 to 1,000 peeps? In my life I've played mostly small bars; juke joints, dives, honkey-tonks where 100-150 is a totally packed standing room only house. I never needed nor wanted PA support as that would be overkill. From 1979 through 2005, I played through a Fender Studio Bass amp - 200 watt all tube 1x15 combo. Never had any problem being heard and was often told to turn down.
Anything much over a 250 capacity venue is going to require you to be in the PA for mix balance if nothing else. Now all your rig needs to do is provide stage volume, which is going to be very close to rehersal volume. You simply need to be able to match the drummers sound level. The Rumble 200 combo will do that all by itself much less the Rumble 500.
As an example: I went to see Zappa Plays Zappa in an old theater that was built in 1912. All the seats had been removed and the 'official capacity' is 750. The bass player was running through a GK head & 410 cab, mic'd. That's it. I was able to get right up to the stage and on axis with the bass rig as I wanted to hear the tone direct and unmic'd. He sounded fine and was no louder than the drums. Mix balance was close to perfect.
Yep. That's the tippy-top of the Rumble line right there. That will move maximum air at maximum dbs.Good info
One last question:
A Rumble V3 500 Amp Head and two V3 410's. Would that be good matching and mixing?
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Shaun
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Yes indeed. You will be able to wring the very best out the 500 with that 2x410 stack without over taxing your woofers. Rest assured that they will be screaming bloody murder at the top of their collective lungs should you so desire.
Another good thing about that set up is you can leave one cab at rehersal and one cab at home and just carry the head back and forth. That makes it nice and light. Plus you can scale down to just one cab for smaller venues.
