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Fender Rumble Club

Do I go with a Rumble 200 combo amp or the 115 cab? I like the idea of a combo. Easy to transport and nothing extra to add. But I always worry about the power rating of the head. 200 vs. 350. And its only 200 with an extension. Right? Well the 350 may only be around 175
I have the Rumble 200 combo and love it. 140 clean continuous watts into a single Eminence 15" woofer. 35 lbs. Classic good looks. 1970's Bassman 100 silverfaced tone for days.
I also have a Rumble 350 head. 221 clean continuous watts into 8 ohms, and 370 into 4. I run a pair of V2 Rumble 112 Neos. I'd just as easily run a pair of V3 Rumble 115's without hesitation for solid classic Fender tone.
So that's your answer. Buy a Fender Rumble 200 combo and a pair of Rumble 115 cabinets. It's the only sensible thing to do.
 
Tempting but 7 years sober suggests maybe not good idea.

I'll set up in the garage tomorrow and abuse the neighborhood before calling Fender.

Just thought it had more fuzz lower at some point

Congratulations on the 7 years!

I would like think you should have some sort of OD/Fuzz kicking in. My first 500 head had a great OD the first day, then the next, the light would come on, but zero sound. The store 8 bought from sent me a replacement ASAP and no issues from that one. (I check the OD channel at least once a week to make sure) But if you dime that circuit , it should be pretty gnarly .

Don't know if that helps.
 
Got some thinking to do, hope you Rumblers could give me some insightful responses.

Ok, been using a zoom into a little mix board as we are quiet and only been in very small locations.

Now, there is apparently no more room for me in the board (extra mic & guitarist as some sort of board to go in).
This coincides with next show on a rooftop in the city, possibly up to 400.

I have a 410 and an old SS amp 250w and a 50w valve amp. I'm a bit put off by the weight considering I haven't been to the building and don't know where the lift (if there is one) is in relation to the roof. I have ruled out my baby V1 rats fur Rumble 15w as inadequate.

My plan was to get a R115; I guess I still could and put with my head and drop the weight considerably.

Now I'm considering a (used or rented) Rumble 100 combo. Would that go ok in these circumstances ? How different is an outside environment in calculating what is acceptable?

The other option is I buy (or rent) a bigger mixer and plug in the zoom as usual, or a perhaps a Rumble 100 comes in here as well.

The show is Dec 15. Sorry for being so long-winded. I'm happy to not spend a great deal :).
 
Got some thinking to do, hope you Rumblers could give me some insightful responses.

Ok, been using a zoom into a little mix board as we are quiet and only been in very small locations.

Now, there is apparently no more room for me in the board (extra mic & guitarist as some sort of board to go in).
This coincides with next show on a rooftop in the city, possibly up to 400.

I have a 410 and an old SS amp 250w and a 50w valve amp. I'm a bit put off by the weight considering I haven't been to the building and don't know where the lift (if there is one) is in relation to the roof. I have ruled out my baby V1 rats fur Rumble 15w as inadequate.

My plan was to get a R115; I guess I still could and put with my head and drop the weight considerably.

Now I'm considering a (used or rented) Rumble 100 combo. Would that go ok in these circumstances ? How different is an outside environment in calculating what is acceptable?

The other option is I buy (or rent) a bigger mixer and plug in the zoom as usual, or a perhaps a Rumble 100 comes in here as well.

The show is Dec 15. Sorry for being so long-winded. I'm happy to not spend a great deal :).
It would help to know what all is in your group and how loud you want to be. What kind of music do you play? Did you mean 400 in the audience?
 
It would help to know what all is in your group and how loud you want to be. What kind of music do you play? Did you mean 400 in the audience?
Volunteers, me plus 1 or 2 guitars, sometimes an accordion guy comes, sometimes a lady with a sax, about 4-6 extras as singers. Not loud. Music for this one will include some Christmas songs and carols; along with our usual stuff like Sway, Love Me Do, Bad Bad Leroy Brown, you're 16, the wonder of you, can't help falling in love, georgy girl, try to remember, plus a monkees and Neil Diamond. so all over the shop - we are now privatising Fly me to the Moon and Take it Easy. Last shows audience included 80 yo's and downwards.
This show is at a big hostel in Sydney. A Christmas show for the homeless that feed and give a bed to on a daily basis.
On the roof because it is the only place they can smoke, and they won't come unless they can smoke. :)
Tonight I was told they are expecting up to 400. That may be widely exaggerated but I have no way to know.
 
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Volunteers, me plus 1 or 2 guitars, sometimes an accordion guy comes, sometimes a lady with a sax, about 4-6 extras as singers. Not loud. Music for this one will include some Christmas songs and carols; along with our usual stuff like Sway, Love Me Do, Bad Bad Leroy Brown, you're 16, the wonder of you, can't help falling in love, georgy girl, try to remember, plus a monkees and Neil Diamond. so all over the shop - we are now privatising Fly me to the Moon and Take it Easy. Last shows audience included 80 yo's and downwards.
This show is at a big hostel in Sydney. A Christmas show for the homeless that feed and give a bed to on a daily basis.
On the roof because it is the only place they can smoke, and they won't come unless they can smoke. :)
Tonight I was told they are expecting up to 400. That may be widely exaggerated but I have no way to know.
I think a 100 might do it, but I would opt for a 200 if one were available.
 
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Just thought it had more fuzz lower at some point
You may have to send it back for warranty repair, so check it out thoroughly.
The V2 Overdrive is much more like a Bass Big Muff Pi. The V3's are expressly designed to be more subtle and tube like (which they are to my ear).

So many of the outboard dirt boxes cost as much as the Fender Rumble itself.
 
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Has anyone previously commented on or compared the 500 combo vs separate 500 head and 210 cab, is there any discernible difference in sound? I already have a combo as my main rig so want to go separate this time so I'm curious, my local stores only have the combos out on the floor.

There are indeed differences between the two boxes. I have both the v3 500 combo and v3 210 ext cab...

The ext cab is slightly heavier than the combo due to the denser wood used (China vs Indonesia wood).

The combo has damping material only on the bottom half of the back wall. The ext cab has damping on the full back wall and both sides.

Internal volume is possibly subtly different - the combo has the cutaway for the amp, the ext cab has the recessed handles.

The combo has 128mm length port tubes, the ext cab has 106mm length port tubes.

Do the knuckle-rap test and you can hear a BIG difference between the two boxes - the combo has a bright / zingy / echoey response, the ext cab has a low dull thud response.

Same speakers and tweeters but the boxes sound different too, the combo has more ‘air and presence’, possibly due to the above differences. The ext cab feels and sounds more solid and tighter overall, which I prefer.
 
There are indeed differences between the two boxes. I have both the v3 500 combo and v3 210 ext cab...

The ext cab is slightly heavier than the combo due to the denser wood used (China vs Indonesia wood).

The combo has damping material only on the bottom half of the back wall. The ext cab has damping on the full back wall and both sides.

Internal volume is possibly subtly different - the combo has the cutaway for the amp, the ext cab has the recessed handles.

The combo has 128mm length port tubes, the ext cab has 106mm length port tubes.

Do the knuckle-rap test and you can hear a BIG difference between the two boxes - the combo has a bright / zingy / echoey response, the ext cab has a low dull thud response.

Same speakers and tweeters but the boxes sound different too, the combo has more ‘air and presence’, possibly due to the above differences. The ext cab feels and sounds more solid and tighter overall, which I prefer.
Thanks, this is the feedback I was hoping for.....Although I dont want another combo, I wanted to justify the difference in price.
 
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There are indeed differences between the two boxes. I have both the v3 500 combo and v3 210 ext cab...

The ext cab is slightly heavier than the combo due to the denser wood used (China vs Indonesia wood).

The combo has damping material only on the bottom half of the back wall. The ext cab has damping on the full back wall and both sides.

Internal volume is possibly subtly different - the combo has the cutaway for the amp, the ext cab has the recessed handles.

The combo has 128mm length port tubes, the ext cab has 106mm length port tubes.

Do the knuckle-rap test and you can hear a BIG difference between the two boxes - the combo has a bright / zingy / echoey response, the ext cab has a low dull thud response.

Same speakers and tweeters but the boxes sound different too, the combo has more ‘air and presence’, possibly due to the above differences. The ext cab feels and sounds more solid and tighter overall, which I prefer.

Thanks, this is the feedback I was hoping for.....Although I dont want another combo, I wanted to justify the difference in price.

With the benefit of hindsight, two 210 ext cabs + separate head would have been better for me, even though that's more expensive than a combo + ext cab.