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Fender Rumble Club

#15,561
burgundyglo said:
With the benefit of hindsight, two 210 ext cabs + separate head would have been better for me, even though that's more expensive than a combo + ext cab.
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The sonic reality is that in a band mix there is no difference. The very slight differences in construction become meaningless during live performance. I doubt that anyone could tell the difference between the two rigs blind. The existential reality is that any difference that makes no difference is no difference.
 
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The 112 definitely feels like it is made with either denser or thicker wood than the combo, it weighs almost as much and is significantly smaller.

I love the rig together. It is growing on me like my swr rig did. The opposite of buyers remorse. Just have to pair the right bass for the gig. Now I have another "p bass" added to the arsenal so I can have one with flats and the other with rounds, it is an old peavey milestone II and I strung it with dean markley NPS round core Rocco prestia strings. I think it is from the late 80s MIK. $65 + some TLC removing stickers and oiling the fretboard, and included Dunlop strap locks, I couldn't pass it up, I had been considering an SX for a second P bass, this fills the role. I played it pre tlc with the old strings it came with on Tuesday, was doing nicely. Can't wait to try it with the new strings, though I think I got a little oil on the e string, combination of goo gone and fretboard oil I had been working with, and possibly from the fretboard itself.
 
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Linnin said:
The sonic reality is that in a band mix there is no difference. The very slight differences in construction become meaningless during live performance. I doubt that anyone could tell the difference between the two rigs blind. The existential reality is that any difference that makes no difference is no difference.
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That is different.

But what has not changed is that I still love my 500 Combo.
 
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burgundyglo said:
There are indeed differences between the two boxes. I have both the v3 500 combo and v3 210 ext cab...

The ext cab is slightly heavier than the combo due to the denser wood used (China vs Indonesia wood).

The combo has damping material only on the bottom half of the back wall. The ext cab has damping on the full back wall and both sides.

Internal volume is possibly subtly different - the combo has the cutaway for the amp, the ext cab has the recessed handles.

The combo has 128mm length port tubes, the ext cab has 106mm length port tubes.

Do the knuckle-rap test and you can hear a BIG difference between the two boxes - the combo has a bright / zingy / echoey response, the ext cab has a low dull thud response.

Same speakers and tweeters but the boxes sound different too, the combo has more ‘air and presence’, possibly due to the above differences. The ext cab feels and sounds more solid and tighter overall, which I prefer.
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Serious question. How can you tell?
Can you power the cab from the head while having the combos speaker muted?
 
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RedVee said:
Serious question. How can you tell?
Can you power the cab from the head while having the combos speaker muted?
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With a long enough speaker cable you can separate and turn the two boxes to hear the difference.

By the way, the combo speaker and tweeter are connected to the combo amp by a simple four wire connector...

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Rickenbottom said:
Update on my 500v3 combo....all I can say is at rehearsal last night the drummer and one of the guitarists ask me to turn it down a bit...:D The drummer said he was feeling it through a-- Lol...I'm just loving this amp...honestly one of the best gear acquisitions I've made...:)
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The thing can be a monster when you need it to be.
But the amount of tonal variation is very impressive. A good bass and a Rumble go a long way.
 
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burgundyglo said:
Ubernator thanks for your comments, appreciated.

The impedance reading from my Rumble v3 210 cab is 5.5 ohms.

The impedance reading from my unpowered Rumble 500 combo at the EXT SPKR jack socket is 5.6 ohms.

Seems ok for an 8 ohm rating for each cab.
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No No No.

The external speaker jack isn't wired the way you think it is. You'll be feeding high amps into the power amp output. Check the schematics / block diagram.

If you want to use a combo as an external speaker, it's much safer to do the eric_B mod. Doesn't cost much.
 
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Scott Truesdell said:
No No No.

The external speaker jack isn't wired the way you think it is. You'll be feeding high amps into the power amp output. Check the schematics / block diagram.

If you want to use a combo as an external speaker, it's much safer to do the eric_B mod. Doesn't cost much.
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Yes to the danger, but I don't think the Eric b mod can work for a combo with a tweeter.
 

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