Fender Rumble Club

[FirewalZ]

Im assuming than you can take a nice pre-amp pedal like a ToneHammer and run it into the effects return? Its not quite the same when you have to run the pedal inline with the current pre-amp, would this completely bypass the pre-amp and give you a close matching TH sound?

 

[ubernator]

So yeah, it's like buying a Seagate HD; it either fails within a few days or you're good to go.

Design Engineering is a very different job than Production Engineering, even though they are both dependent on each other. Here's what we want, now how do we make it? Then you weigh the costs of post-production QC (burn-in) versus replacing the few units that fail. By adopting the latter strategy, you're only out the cost of shipping.

I find this not to be the case. With a Seagate the drive usually waits until it is largely full of data, and it has a backup sensor and telepathic backup intent detector. It then will crash when enough data has been stored and the user has enough intent to be thinking about running a backup, but is too lazy to actually do so. At least my experience. So the ones that fail early are the true lemons, and the ones that keep working forever are the ones that are backed up regularly. Same applies to western digital but with a much lower true lemon rate, and a more.forgiving backup intent detector.

Im assuming than you can take a nice pre-amp pedal like a ToneHammer and run it into the effects return? Its not quite the same when you have to run the pedal inline with the current pre-amp, would this completely bypass the pre-amp and give you a close matching TH sound?

Yes, using a preamp pedal into the effects return is like using the rumble as a power amp only, no 2nd preamp in the way.

 

[RedVee]

I find this not to be the case. With a Seagate the drive usually waits until it is largely full of data, and it has a backup sensor and telepathic backup intent detector. It then will crash when enough data has been stored and the user has enough intent to be thinking about running a backup, but is too lazy to actually do so. At least my experience. So the ones that fail early are the true lemons, and the ones that keep working forever are the ones that are backed up regularly. Same applies to western digital but with a much lower true lemon rate, and a more.forgiving backup intent detector.



Yes, using a preamp pedal into the effects return is like using the rumble as a power amp only, no 2nd preamp in the way.

so... Backup early, Backup often

 

[Scott Truesdell]

I believe it's bad luck to be superstitious.

 

[John DaBass]

Im assuming than you can take a nice pre-amp pedal like a ToneHammer and run it into the effects return? Its not quite the same when you have to run the pedal inline with the current pre-amp, would this completely bypass the pre-amp and give you a close matching TH sound?

If you use the effects return you bypass the Rumble preamp. If you use an A/B/Y switch to switch the bass guitar signal between the Rumble preamp input (A) and the ToneHammer preamp (B) you can toggle between the two preamps giving you two different sound tones. The Tone Hammer preamp has to plugged into the AUX In socket on the back of the Rumble. This is a very flexible setup allowing fast tone changes mid song.

 

[Whiplash71]

Ok, I'm really struggling with the extension cab. We play medium to large venues and I can't decide what to put under the 500 combo. All of our gigs are thru PA systems, so no issues there, but I can't decide between the two.

I don't have access to either, so I'm going in blind on the cab. ive been playing thru my old Ampeg 8x10 forever, so I'm leaning hard on the 15 if for anything...it's something different. Not to mention a crap ton lighter, which I am ashamed to say, was a major selling point for me. The last time I rolled that 8x10 into a venue last month, I knew I was done with that whole experience.

I want to get this Rumble set up pretty much ready for anything. I'm ready to switch completely over and get back to my Fender ways. I kept my 4 pro head (sold the cabs) and many of the venues we play supply the 8x10 Ampeg cabs, should I need them, but I want to commit to the rumble set up 100%. I have no hate for the Ampegs and I was loyal for years to that rig, but it's time for a changing of the Gaurd. Not too mention that I'm just thrilled to death with that little 500.

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15, but the 10s keep creeping back into my thoughts. I've read everything I could read on it...and its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Loving the rumble. I've seen it discussed to death in this thread, but if anyone doesn't mind, I'm open for more opinions if someone would like to chime in.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

+You could chain a pair of Rumble 500 heads together and run four Rumble 410 cabinets for 1,000 watts and 16 tens!

If you chain 2000 500s each with an extension, you would be pushing 1,000,000 watts!
You could play a gig in LA from your living room in Lynchburg.

 

[Linnin]

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15,

its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Flip a coin, then order the Rumble 115

 

[Linnin]

If you chain 2000 500s each with an extension, you would be pushing 1,000,000 watts!
You could play a gig in LA from your living room in Lynchburg.

London Calling!

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Thanks, yes this does make since and as a "Corporate IT Guy" it rings true of pretty much any product or service you produce. So the increased cost of high end products is mainly tied to the use of higher end internal components and this does not necessarily relate to a better sound, possibly a decrease in "faulty" units, but not tone. Well with a 5 year warranty(assuming it's legit and not a bunch of strings attached), that would ease my worry.

The warranty is excellent. I bought a used 100 from GC Used site. Had a problem with it and sent it in. They sent me a brand new 100. So, I got a brand new 100 for $139.00. All I had to do was take the receipt and the amp to the authorized Fender repair center.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Ok, I'm really struggling with the extension cab. We play medium to large venues and I can't decide what to put under the 500 combo. All of our gigs are thru PA systems, so no issues there, but I can't decide between the two.

I don't have access to either, so I'm going in blind on the cab. ive been playing thru my old Ampeg 8x10 forever, so I'm leaning hard on the 15 if for anything...it's something different. Not to mention a crap ton lighter, which I am ashamed to say, was a major selling point for me. The last time I rolled that 8x10 into a venue last month, I knew I was done with that whole experience.

I want to get this Rumble set up pretty much ready for anything. I'm ready to switch completely over and get back to my Fender ways. I kept my 4 pro head (sold the cabs) and many of the venues we play supply the 8x10 Ampeg cabs, should I need them, but I want to commit to the rumble set up 100%. I have no hate for the Ampegs and I was loyal for years to that rig, but it's time for a changing of the Gaurd. Not too mention that I'm just thrilled to death with that little 500.

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15, but the 10s keep creeping back into my thoughts. I've read everything I could read on it...and its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Loving the rumble. I've seen it discussed to death in this thread, but if anyone doesn't mind, I'm open for more opinions if someone would like to chime in.

Thanks in advance.

I had the same dilemma and went with the 2x10 because the cab sizes are the same. My OCD didn't like the idea of different size cabs. I like the way it sounds. And it is loud.

 

[wilder]

Ok, I'm really struggling with the extension cab. We play medium to large venues and I can't decide what to put under the 500 combo. All of our gigs are thru PA systems, so no issues there, but I can't decide between the two.

I don't have access to either, so I'm going in blind on the cab. ive been playing thru my old Ampeg 8x10 forever, so I'm leaning hard on the 15 if for anything...it's something different. Not to mention a crap ton lighter, which I am ashamed to say, was a major selling point for me. The last time I rolled that 8x10 into a venue last month, I knew I was done with that whole experience.

I want to get this Rumble set up pretty much ready for anything. I'm ready to switch completely over and get back to my Fender ways. I kept my 4 pro head (sold the cabs) and many of the venues we play supply the 8x10 Ampeg cabs, should I need them, but I want to commit to the rumble set up 100%. I have no hate for the Ampegs and I was loyal for years to that rig, but it's time for a changing of the Gaurd. Not too mention that I'm just thrilled to death with that little 500.

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15, but the 10s keep creeping back into my thoughts. I've read everything I could read on it...and its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Loving the rumble. I've seen it discussed to death in this thread, but if anyone doesn't mind, I'm open for more opinions if someone would like to chime in.

Thanks in advance.

I'm getting tons of bass out of the 4x10 vertical array with the two 500 combos stacked. Coupling effect is supposed to help, but I imagine it would sound damn fine with the 1x15 as well.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

I'm getting tons of bass out of the 4x10 vertical array with the two 500 combos stacked. Coupling effect is supposed to help, but I imagine it would sound damn fine with the 1x15 as well.

I see you are in Denton. I'm just a few miles south in North Fort Worth. My BL is in Krum and we practice there.

 

[FirewalZ]

has anyone tried one or more of the Rumble 112 cab's....What about two 12's vs a 210?

 

[Dale Griffith]

Ok, I'm really struggling with the extension cab. We play medium to large venues and I can't decide what to put under the 500 combo. All of our gigs are thru PA systems, so no issues there, but I can't decide between the two.
I don't have access to either, so I'm going in blind on the cab. ive been playing thru my old Ampeg 8x10 forever, so I'm leaning hard on the 15 if for anything...it's something different. Not to mention a crap ton lighter, which I am ashamed to say, was a major selling point for me. The last time I rolled that 8x10 into a venue last month, I knew I was done with that whole experience.

I want to get this Rumble set up pretty much ready for anything. I'm ready to switch completely over and get back to my Fender ways. I kept my 4 pro head (sold the cabs) and many of the venues we play supply the 8x10 Ampeg cabs, should I need them, but I want to commit to the rumble set up 100%. I have no hate for the Ampegs and I was loyal for years to that rig, but it's time for a changing of the Gaurd. Not too mention that I'm just thrilled to death with that little 500.

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15, but the 10s keep creeping back into my thoughts. I've read everything I could read on it...and its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Loving the rumble. I've seen it discussed to death in this thread, but if anyone doesn't mind, I'm open for more opinions if someone would like to chime in.

Thanks in advance.

I've used my 500 combo with a Portaflex 115 or a 410. (I already had both cabinets) With the 115 I get some "boomier" low end to go with the 10" speaker sound and with the 410 I get more of the same tone. So, depends on my mood? For most venues we play I really don't need the extension.

I usually take the 500 and one of the extensions to a gig and throw my PF800 lightwight class D amp in the truck. That way I can use the 500 with or without the extension and still have backup if something fails.

 

[Indiedog]

Happy Fender Friday, Kids!

My latest acquisition will be a EBS MicroBass II which can function as a headphone amp, DI, and Preamp. (The first two functions are the main reasons for getting one.) But what about using it with my Rumble 500 Combo? Would it provide additional sound options and/or better sound if used with the Combo?

If so, how should I wire it in?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Aahzz]

My delima...15 cab or 2-10? Im loving the idea of the 15, but the 10s keep creeping back into my thoughts. I've read everything I could read on it...and its 50/50, which makes it tougher to decide. I guess the flip side is, either way I can't really go wrong, huh?

Loving the rumble. I've seen it discussed to death in this thread, but if anyone doesn't mind, I'm open for more opinions if someone would like to chime in.

Thanks in advance.

The 115 sounds freaking amazing with the 500c, that's my current setup I actually like the look of the mismatched cab size - kind of a pyramid look rather than a straight stack.

 

[Indiedog]

The 115 sounds freaking amazing with the 500c, that's my current setup I actually like the look of the mismatched cab size - kind of a pyramid look rather than a straight stack.

STOP THIS! I am trying to forget that I "need" a 115 for my 500C.

 

[Linnin]

kind of a pyramid look

Yes! They are called ziggurats and predate pyramids.
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[BazzaBass]

The 115 sounds freaking amazing with the 500c, that's my current setup I actually like the look of the mismatched cab size - kind of a pyramid look rather than a straight stack.

This is an interesting discussion. Fender's prices do not help because they are all over the place

200 Combo 1x15 $450 140 Watts $3.20 per watt
200 Combo 1x15 $450 +1x15 Cab $300= $750 200 Watts $3.75 per watt
500 Combo 2x10 $600 350 Watts $1.71 per watt
500 Combo 2x10 $600 + 2x10 Cab $350=$950 500 Watts $1.90 per watt
500 Combo 2x10 $600 + 1x15 Cab $300=$900 500 Watts $1.80 per watt
500 Combo 2x10 $600 + 1x12 Cab $300=$900 500 Watts $1.80 per watt
500 Head $400 + 4x10 Cab $400=$800 350 Watts $2.28 per Watt
500 Head $400 + 2x10 Cab $350=$750 350 Watts $2.14 per watt
500 Head $400 + 1x15 Cab $300=$700 - 350 Watts $2.00 per watt
500 Head $400 + 2x(2x10) Cab $700= $1200 500 Watts $2.40 per watt
500 Head $400 + 2x(1x15) Cab $600= $1000 500 Watts $2.00 Per watt
500 Head $400 + 2x10 Cab $350+1x15 Cab $300=$1050 500 Watts $2.10 Per watt

2 x 500 Combos $1200 - 700Watts $1.72 per watt. It seems to me that value for money rather than a combo and ext Cab. For an extra $250 an extra 200 watts @1.25 per watt

Happy to be corrected