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Fieldy

#102
bottomdweller70 said:
Enough said.

I see that experienced bass players tend to eat their young so-to-speak. We need to nurture and guide them, not knock them down.

Arrogant.
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Don't turn your nose up at the nose up-turners, 'cause then you'd be a nose up-turner and you'd have to turn your nose up at yourself. ;)

I don't think it's always arrogant to dislike/bash another player, especially if they're highly visible. I do agree that a more constructive approach would be more helpful. One could disagree, but still suggest a few good bassists for the Korn-lovers to check out, like players that they could appreciate.

Too much political-correctness is silly and results in an inability for anyone to make any judgements whatsoever.

Let's "guide" them by either getting them into better players or, if they maintain that this guy that calls himself "Fieldy Snuts" is good, at least we might start a discussion centered around "why?"
 
#104
corrosiontrav said:
There are alot of bass players I dont think are talented bass players. Lots.


But, you can't name one band that has a good sound and people dig that has REALLY talentless bassist, or for that matter one song that has been in the top 100 in the past 30 years that had an absolutley horrible bassline.

There might be ones that aren't particularly complicated, but not one is horribly off time and/or out of key.

I think jeoulsy kind of figures in alittle bit when we bash on these 'inferior' players.
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I can mention one...... The Sex Pistols
Syd Vicious was REALLY talentless
 
#106
Korn sounded better and everyone was mixed well on Life Is Peachy and the albums prior. Everything after to me is just blah. I like his tone actually, it fits Korn and thats what matters. He has some good lines on the older stuff.

I never really liked slipknot, but Paul has great tone and does what needs to be done. Vol 3 was where he stuck out the most and is a Slipknot album I'd sit and listen to end to end. Iowa I didnt really like, and the first one I havent really heard. From what Iv'e read, he recorded the first album with a Jackon bass and not until the middle of their first tour did Warwick give him call. Corvettes and Thumbs ever since...

I like SOAD. Shavo certainly isnt a bad player. The first album he recorded with an Ibanez BTB 550 I think. And live he used that and a Spector. The Thunderbirds came the time of Toxicity. Everything after the first album he was drowned out and is only audible with studio type earmuff headphones.

But then again, something makes me think he only took part in the writing process on the first album cause everything from Toxicity and after he just follows along with Daron, boring. I give him cred for being able to play quick with a pick which I don't do very well (Chop Suey is one of them).
 
#107
Yeah I tries to play Chop Suey! with fingers. Nearly impossible because you cna't hit every note and kepp the buzz from coming. And i wnana give you cred because you're the only person who has posted on this thread who has looked at all three bassist from a professional point of view.

By the way SLipknot their earlier stuff sounds better live.
 
#109
I don't know how old this thread is, but since I stumbled upon it, I guess I'll post.

I saw Korn live this year at Sziget Fest in Budapest, Hungary. They had some technical difficulties and were forced to stop after every 3 songs which made the crowd a little tense. So the drummer decided to take matters into his own hands and came out on stage to improvise a little, which I thought was really nice of him, taking into consideration that the singer didn't bother to say sorry during the whole show which consisted of about 9 songs. Anyway, the drummer came out and gestured to Fieldy to come out also, so that the two of them could jam a little.

With only a drummer and a bass on stage you could hear everything all to well. The drummer was trying pretty hard to get something started but Fieldy was completly lost and was uncabable of coming up with ANYTHING. He played random "grooves" from their own songs, which obviously sounded pretty lame, because they wern't meant to be played with only a drummer. After about 10 minutes of suffering they finally gave up. I have to say that the drummer was pretty tight, and I think that if you listen to his material, you can tell, he knows what hes doing. But Fieldy was simply pathetic. As a mid-educated basser I felt sorry for him, it was a really sad sight.

I think what really shows Fieldy's skills is that he made a solo album. I listen to it and expected to here some bass lines, finally. It turned out to be a rap album. No comment.

As for the SOAD basser, I saw a video of a live concert, and at one point the guitar went dead (oh those guitarists, always messing up, always embaracing their bassists :-)) and again, you could hear only bass and drums. His sound was atrocious. But his bass lines are pretty decent sometimes.
 
#111
Razor said:
Technically I agree with you...and I'm no big SP fan either...but Syd had tons of soul.
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Soul?! You mean his playing? Because I don't think that counts considering he played with his amp off/turned all the way down because he sucked so bad, and the guitarist (who's name escapes me) played bass on the albums.

But by soul, you probably mean he freaked out on stage... :hmm:
 
#113
Matt Till said:
Soul?! You mean his playing? Because I don't think that counts considering he played with his amp off/turned all the way down because he sucked so bad, and the guitarist (who's name escapes me) played bass on the albums.

But by soul, you probably mean he freaked out on stage... :hmm:
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Steve Jones was, I believe, the guitarist's name. No clue about who played on the records, like I said, no big fan of SP..but I've got what's claimed to be a live bootleg of couple of their tunes on MP3 and I've seen some video of some show they did in their hey-day... his playing fit the music fine.

And yeah...the freaking out thing is/was important...it was the Sex Pistols! When it comes to soul in my book, doesn't matter how technical a player the person is... as long as you're doing your best, honestly. Fieldy is a poser who wants to be seen, and hopefully not heard.

Sid has tons of soul in my book when you compare the two of them.
 
#114
Well S.O.A.D the singer doesn't sound good in general so I can agree they don't sound too good live. Fieldy and his solo album big dissapointment.:rollno: :scowl:

Paul Grey and his bass tone was horrible on VOL. 3 and that's his fault. Slipknot took a big turn in Vol. 3 with some Stone Sour type of stuff. But if you listen to Slipknot live Paul Grey kix some serious (donkey).

But if you look at from today's point of view and teh popularity of teh bass (which isn't real high) then Shavo has a serious tone. and Shavo and his bass don't sound awful now adays but when they first started oh yeah he sucked.

I just want to say I know you don't want to hear a 12-yr old preach about his fav bass players but at least i'm trying to take like an adult. I think that their are bass players like Tom Araya I have better bass tone than him. But only my opinion and Tom Araya is one of my favorite bass players by the way.

Thanx,
Slipknotz
 
#118
Let your ears be the judge:



imo terrible tone; not a big Korn fan but kinda like this song, but wow the bass alone yuk. I guess you could say if it works in the mix it's good. I can't imagine practicing alone sounding like this, but I guess he has his millions of $ to console him :)
 
#119
After listening to all the bass only tracks on TB recently I'm starting to think that I'm very uptight about fret buzz. I can't stand it, and will monkey around with a bass for hours until I get it set up to play easy with no buzz. But the pros just seem to let it all hang out. Pick noise, fret buzz, they don't seem to care a whit.
 
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