• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

FIFA World Cup 2014

For the sake of the history books, I'm rooting for Colombia and Costa Rica to get to the final. Why are the history books somehow better if the same teams make it every time?

I think he was implying that it's better for the history books for different countries to make it.

If an "old" power must win it, I'd rather see the Dutch take it, just since they've never quite been able to win it. Three finals, three losses.
 
I'm a bit torn about this, tbh. I think Columbia have been great so far and Brazil have looked a little shaky in places, so if Columbia do outplay Brazil then nobody could have too many complaints. But the whole atmosphere of the tournament does rather depend on Brazil still being in it for another game or two, and it won't be the same without them. This has been a terrific World Cup so far, and for the sake of the history books.. oh, I dunno. Torn, as I said.

I think he was implying that it's better for the history books for different countries to make it.

Read it again. He's saying he wants Brazil to go far for the sake of the history books. Hmmm.... We'll have to ask him. Which is it, Bill?
 
Which is it, Bill?

Really, it could be either.

I was saying that I'd like history to see 2014 as a one of the great world cup tournaments. It already is, in many ways. Let's hope we get a finish that lives up to the rest of it. Very often, the final match can be a letdown.

Brazil in the final and maybe winning a sixth victory, this time on home soil, would certainly be a historic finish. And I think that the atmosphere at every game that's been played has to some extent been enhanced by the Brazilian support and we'd have lost a lot of that if Brazil had gone out early. But a first final or a first win for one of the other countries would be historic, too. The ideal finish for me would be for Holland or Belgium to beat Brazil in the final. Now that would really be something.
 
I'll go further and say what I'd like for each of the remaining games... :D

Brazil to sneak past Columbia with another penalty shootout. Likewise for Germany and France, and then Brazil to destroy Germany utterly in the semi-final.

Belgium to beat Argentina in a well fought match, and Holland do the necessary with Costa Rica. After that, I wouldn't really mind who got through the SF in this half of the draw, as long as they went on win it.

The stuff of dreams...
 
I think he was implying that it's better for the history books for different countries to make it.

If an "old" power must win it, I'd rather see the Dutch take it, just since they've never quite been able to win it. Three finals, three losses.

Nah, I kind of like having a perennial bridesmaid in a sport. But if the Dutch take it, who gets to be the next best team to never win. With the victories of Spain and France recently, the best team to never win is probably not going to be that great a team.
 
I think Colombia has the firepower to beat Brazil right away, only two things can stop them from winning: stage fright or some Nishimura´s style refereeing.
Belgium can sweep Argentina out if they manage to keep a clean sheet, Argentina is fearsome on the front, but frightening on the back. I still don´t understand how they couldn´t bring Cambiasso on the middle and Caballero as a keeper.
 
Come on Belgium...

image.jpg
 
I think Colombia has the firepower to beat Brazil right away, only two things can stop them from winning: stage fright or some Nishimura´s style refereeing.
Belgium can sweep Argentina out if they manage to keep a clean sheet, Argentina is fearsome on the front, but frightening on the back. I still don´t understand how they couldn´t bring Cambiasso on the middle and Caballero as a keeper.

When do they announce the refs. The American ref got a Round of 16 game, I don't know if he did well enough to get a Quarterfinal match or if he ends up exiting at the same time as the USMNT.
 
I'll go further and say what I'd like for each of the remaining games... :D

Brazil to sneak past Columbia with another penalty shootout. Likewise for Germany and France, and then Brazil to destroy Germany utterly in the semi-final.

Belgium to beat Argentina in a well fought match, and Holland do the necessary with Costa Rica. After that, I wouldn't really mind who got through the SF in this half of the draw, as long as they went on win it.

The stuff of dreams...
Does Brazil have the stuff to destory as you say phil lahm & co defense? agaist cameroon, croatia sure but not vs. a more talented & tougher mexico--but i like ochoa in goal better if they can't do it against Mex I doubt it against GER we'll see
but then germany have gbeen under-performing
I hope GER FRA is a good match I'm just not cheering for either