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Fingers or plectrum?

Fingers or plectrum?

  • Finger picking only

    Votes: 88 25.7%
  • Plectrum only

    Votes: 28 8.2%
  • Depends on the song

    Votes: 227 66.2%

  • Total voters
    343
Fingers only for me unless someone else requests that I play a song with a pick. I just like the sound better and have never rally heard a picked tone I like.

Here's the odd thing though...I started off on guitar so using a pick is no big deal. I'll probably always be able to play with a pick as well as I do with my fingers or better because of the amount of time I spent on guitar.
 
I’m primarily a pick player, because I feel finger tone can’t really capture the aggressiveness I’m looking for. However, I find some songs to sound substantially better with finger picking; and often much more comfortable to play.

Also, I find it egregious to play The Trooper with a pick. It just doesn’t sound right without the finger clank.
 
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Same here. I was a guitar player first, so when I started on bass I started with a pick. I gradually migrated to fingers, but for guitar I still use a pick. Sadly, I’ve never been able to get the hang of finger picking guitar. Plus, I also play mandolin, which is all plectrum for me.
Same here. I use my picking hand like an animal uses its claws to scratch itself. No finesse whatsoever. Using a pick on the bass makes me sound like a frustrated guitarist trying to keep up. I play bass faster and more accurately with my fingers than with a pick. I haven't tried bowing the piano yet.
 
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I never properly developed thumb-picking myself...

Off topic, what's the story behind your name: Ostie ?
Did you know it's a common swear word in Quebec French? :D
Yes, I’ve been told it’s a swear word in Quebec, but I’m not French Canadian. It’s a nickname that came from my father and grandfather. My apologies if I’m offending anyone. It’s not my intention.
 
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So what is the right pick and the right way to hold it. I kinda just don't like the sound.

I was waiting to see if someone would ask that.

I hold the pick between the pad of the thumb and the index finger. This allows me to pick from flat angle (zero degrees). This with palm muting you can get a thuddy flat wound string sound even with rounds. If you hold the pick like a guitar player then the pick rolls slightly to the side of the index finger and the angle increases and you get more treble bite out of the pick.

here's me playing back by the bridge ... picking and palm muting

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I never liked tear drop picks ... they are fine on guitars but for a bass I like the triangle picks. Hard plastic picks wear out too fast and sound too harsh. I was using these for a while

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but then I found these picks ... they last forever and are not harsh sounding and they have 3 picking edges

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I was waiting to see if someone would ask that.

I hold the pick between the pad of the thumb and the index finger. This allows me to pick from flat angle (zero degrees). This with palm muting you can get a thuddy flat wound string sound even with rounds. If you hold the pick like a guitar player then the pick rolls slightly to the side of the index finger and the angle increases and you get more treble bite out of the pick.

here's me playing back by the bridge ... picking and palm muting

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I never liked tear drop picks ... they are fine on guitars but for a bass I like the triangle picks. Hard plastic picks wear out too fast and sound too harsh. I was using these for a while

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but then I found these picks ... they last forever and are not harsh sounding and they have 3 picking edges

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That's cool. Glad it works for you. I guess at this point I just like what I like. I think play at the bridge is the more natural position with a pick but I don't really like the sound it produces with either technique. I would say we are probably on opposite ends of the tonal preference spectrum, which is ok though.
 
One of the reasons why bass players don't like picks is they use the wrong pick and they hold it wrong.

Probably a lot of truth to this as I started on a pick and transferred to fingers after seeing a guy a lot better than me. Took a couple of years to fully transition but I found that the fingers can travel over the strings faster (I do a lot of octave drops and runs) and for my style of playing that makes a big difference.

Interestingly enough, I picked up a plectrum a couple of days ago and cannot hold it, maneuver with it and cannot play even beginner level with it. It just doesn't work for me and the other incentive was that I never like the treble tone of a pick on the strings. I even tried felt picks back in the early 70's to get away from that.

The other thing that has changed in bass playing is the players themselves. There is a wide gap between John Entwistle playing with a pick and listening to bass players who strum (Thrash) root notes on a bass. That is fingernails of a blackboard to me.
 
Probably a lot of truth to this as I started on a pick and transferred to fingers after seeing a guy a lot better than me. Took a couple of years to fully transition but I found that the fingers can travel over the strings faster (I do a lot of octave drops and runs) and for my style of playing that makes a big difference.

Interestingly enough, I picked up a plectrum a couple of days ago and cannot hold it, maneuver with it and cannot play even beginner level with it. It just doesn't work for me and the other incentive was that I never like the treble tone of a pick on the strings. I even tried felt picks back in the early 70's to get away from that.

The other thing that has changed in bass playing is the players themselves. There is a wide gap between John Entwistle playing with a pick and listening to bass players who strum (Thrash) root notes on a bass. That is fingernails of a blackboard to me.
Pretty sure Entwistle didn't use a pick...
 
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I never liked tear drop picks ... they are fine on guitars but for a bass I like the triangle picks. Hard plastic picks wear out too fast and sound too harsh. I was using these for a while

but then I found these picks ... they last forever and are not harsh sounding and they have 3 picking edges

View attachment 4434346
Back when I played with a pick, those were the kinds of picks I used. My problem was that the pick would slowly rotate in my fingers so that the flat side was closest to the strings, then I'd have to adjust it. Rinse & repeat.

I would have been interested in a pick with six or seven points, like the Star of David or a California Highway Patrol badge, assuming the contour of the points looked liked the corners of the triangular picks you posted. That way, if the pick rotates in my fingers, it would just rotate to another point. And if I ever started playing with a pick again, I'd be interested again in such a pick.
 
That's cool. Glad it works for you. I guess at this point I just like what I like. I think play at the bridge is the more natural position with a pick but I don't really like the sound it produces with either technique. I would say we are probably on opposite ends of the tonal preference spectrum, which is ok though.
Thick Inflexible Picks.That's the way.
You might like Gypsy Jazz picks(Also called Manouche picks)
They give a dark,round tone.And slip off the string easily.
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