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Flatwound Recommendations for a Roundwound Guy

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I have a 65P that doesn’t get a lot of playing time. It’s currently strung with rounds (GHS Pressurewounds) and they’re due for a change. This time, I thought I would try a set of flats on it. (It already has a tort pick guard, so this will bring the bass into compliance with Talkbass CC&Rs. ;))

I’m looking for recommendations of which strings to try. I want something not too expensive (which probably rules out TI’s), low to medium tension, with a smooth feel (not sticky), and a very short break-in period. (I don’t want to spend months breaking in a set.) I’ll be playing mostly with fingers, but occasionally using a pick.

So, whatcha got?
 
I have a 65P that doesn’t get a lot of playing time. It’s currently strung with rounds (GHS Pressurewounds) and they’re due for a change. This time, I thought I would try a set of flats on it. (It already has a tort pick guard, so this will bring the bass into compliance with Talkbass CC&Rs. ;))

I’m looking for recommendations of which strings to try. I want something not too expensive (which probably rules out TI’s), low to medium tension, with a smooth feel (not sticky), and a very short break-in period. (I don’t want to spend months breaking in a set.) I’ll be playing mostly with fingers, but occasionally using a pick.

So, whatcha got?
Both the S.I.T. PowerFlat PF45105L
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and the Galli Jazz Flat JF4505
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are under 30 Ameribux.
Former usually described as bright; latter as in-between bright and vintagey, as well as tactilely smooth, and medium-tension.

Webstrings Detroit Bass Stainless flatwounds
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are also inexpensive. As for their tension and feel, going from memory I'd say TB reviews coverge toward "high" and "smoth", but you'll have to check them yourself.
 
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I'd be interested in trying these myself, but only if they came in a lighter set, as in 40-95/100.
I only have experience with their old, groundwound incarnation. They're usually described as similar to Chromes, which puts them lower in my personal list of priorities.
I'm a lot more interested in trying the Gallis, sometime. Based on reviews, they might be in the same ballpark as the EB Groupies.
 
Labella LTF4A , Shdowsky Blue flat 40-100/45-105 or DR Legend 45-105.

I believe when you mention short broken in period , means you want the old school flat vibe. So, Le bella LTF4A and DR legend has less broken in period than Sadowsky, Fender flat , EB Group, Dunlop flat, ECB81......

Most glassy polished string surface flatwound bass string will suffer with sticky issue when your fretting hand get sweat. EB cobalt flat and Ti flat are the solution but both has no old school vibe.

If i own the 65P, old school vibe flatwound must have. Old school vibe i prefer pluck the string close to neck side, so will consider on medium to heavy gauge. Yes, .1uf cap and a piece of foam must have too.
IF play with pick, it depend to pick thickness i use to chose the string gauge.

Wish you enjoy the flatwound bass string journey, spend some money and time to find your vibe.
 
My recommendation to anyone trying flats for the first time is Ernie Ball Cobalt Flats. They are the outlier in all flats I’ve tried in that they are brighter and remain bright longer than any flats I’ve tried, which include TI Jazz Flats, Chromes, a couple different kinds of Fender flats, Ernie Ball Group 3 (not sure of which “group”), LaBella 760 FM and FLs.

If you want old school thump and want it quickly, you should probably not get EB Cobalts. They tend to remain fairly bright for a long time.
 
I have a 65P that doesn’t get a lot of playing time.
...I want something not too expensive (which probably rules out TI’s),
...low to medium tension, with a smooth feel (not sticky), and a very short break-in period. (I don’t want to spend months breaking in a set.)
...I’ll be playing mostly with fingers, but occasionally using a pick.

Cobalts are out (sticky)
Define short break in period? There are used flats on Ebay or Reverb... or boil the new (supposedly works).
Bright or muddy isn't mentioned.
I personally can't feel the difference in Low tension.
Roto monel maybe
D'addario chromes (supposedly sound the same new or old) they are brighter sounding.
Don't rule out Fender run of the mill flats (bread & butter)
Labella's are polished and are slick (IMHO), advertised as balanced, it takes a while for the low E to come out of that thunky thing.

Ernie is budget friendly so is Fender.

I have the Jamersonesque medium Labella's on a string through... not factory recommended, but it came that way and it is Deep Talkin'... when that bass goes in for a neck shim the Labella's specifically for string through are going on.

You're on the fence.
My first recommendation is to match the existing nut on the instrument rather than altering the nut.
I'm sort of a medium kind of guy but it's hard to match the nut coming out of the factory because most of that factory stuff is cut for light or sorta light, so to manage my string choices the nut(s) had to be fitted for the medium gauges.

I'm thinking... Ernie Ball or Fender, and the choice for me would be the nickel option, but stainless works too. Unless you want bright and that would be the D'Addario chromes.

Is your P-bass a string through? That narrows it way down to basically (my choice) LaBella with silk wraps on the exposed core at both ends...

BTW when I see a flatwound with fret dents I would change them out. Hence, when I was very active playing 3 to 4 gigs a week a set of strings would rarely go over 2 years, and I tried different options rather than one brand exclusively. I also used 2 or 3 basses per gig as the songs dictated. Sometimes I used half-rounds on the six string boat anchor.

Fender flats were very affordable back then. The Beatle bass wore Labella's .96's as I recall.

I actually broke a string once at the (smooth) brass bridge roller, and that was a bridge through fretless Jazz bass (go figure) and I have no idea why that particular string broke midsong, I use my fingers.

Cheers!
 
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Do you want dark sounding, thumpy, "vintage" flats or brighter, "modern" flats with more sustain?

The tone and dynamics/"feel" of different types of flats can vary a LOT more than with different types of roundwounds. I find it rather pointless to make any specific recommendation without knowing at least roughly what kind of tone you're aiming for. With the currently available information my recommendation can only be: Get the lightest gauge set of the cheapest flats you can find.

Having said that... If you want flats with "a very short break-in time" you've basically got the choice between TI Jazz Flats and TI Jazz Flats.
 
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I have a 65P that doesn’t get a lot of playing time. It’s currently strung with rounds (GHS Pressurewounds) and they’re due for a change. This time, I thought I would try a set of flats on it. (It already has a tort pick guard, so this will bring the bass into compliance with Talkbass CC&Rs. ;))

I’m looking for recommendations of which strings to try. I want something not too expensive (which probably rules out TI’s), low to medium tension, with a smooth feel (not sticky), and a very short break-in period. (I don’t want to spend months breaking in a set.) I’ll be playing mostly with fingers, but occasionally using a pick.

So, whatcha got?

I know you said not TIs due to price but they last.
 
My main flat is Chrome ECB84 100-40. I like them right out of the pack. Tension is medium light. This last year I went down the rabbit hole with the other big string brand on three basses. I a gave them a good try, but all three different gauges were just too dull for me. I just ordered new sets of Chromes to replace them. To me the Chromes are musical and present but still an old school flat. They are sticky out of the pack but a quick wipe down with alcohol cleans them right up.
 
Cobalts are fantastic unless you want old school thumpy. Someone mentioned they are sticky which is an easy fix.
Wipe them down with isopropyl rubbing alcohol before installing and they'll feel great. Tension is moderate for flats. Very similar sound to Chromes but with less tension and last longer. Plus, they stay bright a really long time.
My current set has been on four years!