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Fodera Club Part XI

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If something is worth doing, it is worth over-doing. Actually I forgot to mention the deposit on another Monarch :eek:


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I think that bodies on both MG custom and MG standard are sized the same. But both are downsized compared to the Imperial.
Jason?

Hi guys,

I happen to know that, aside from the Monarch body, the MG (I assume the standard as well, but the MG custom for sure) are indeed the smallest body Fodera makes. I know this because when I planned my next bass with Jason, I wanted an Emperor II, but when he explained body sizes, he strongly suggested the MG shape, if I wanted a single cut, based on its size. They are based on the Imperial, but reduced in size even from that shape.

Hope this helps.
 
@ Todd,

I don't think I ever asked, how did you 'find' the YYD that is now at NAMM, the one you just purchased? Did you talk to Jason, and ask him if they had any YYDs in the pipeline? Just curious. As you know, I 'found' mine in the 'pipeline' at Bass Central, and was just interested how you knew that one was coming.
 
curt basner said:
Hi guys,

I happen to know that, aside from the Monarch body, the MG (I assume the standard as well, but the MG custom for sure) are indeed the smallest body Fodera makes. I know this because when I planned my next bass with Jason, I wanted an Emperor II, but when he explained body sizes, he strongly suggested the MG shape, if I wanted a single cut, based on its size. They are based on the Imperial, but reduced in size even from that shape.

Hope this helps.

Hi Curt & Michele,

Your both correct that the MG is the most compact body shape, but at the beginning of the presentation Jason explains Matt's desire for a more closer string spacing (17.5mm at the bridge), he goes on to say that we even looked at making the body a little more compact, Joey then points to the heel and say's we even
Carved it a bit more. That sounds to me they've refined the body, which can only be a +1.
 
Lugzy,

You are right...I watched the video again, and there was a momentary reference by Joey to the body carve, maybe indicating that the body has been modified just a bit from the custom MG model. The 17.5mm string spacing is, I believe, the 'standard' spacing even on the custom MG model, and has been the case from the start (I'm pretty sure). In fact, I inquired about an even narrower spacing, which is available (16.5mm), but that would mean using an off-the-shelf Hipshot bridge, which is what they did for Janek Gwizdala's latest bass (an MG shape). I would actually like the 16.5 spacing, but I also don't want to sacrifice the custom Fodera bridge, so I decided to go with the 17.5mm spacing. I do know that there is some difference between the custom bridge and the 'standard' bridge that Fodera uses, and I would suspect that the MG Standard would have the 'standard' bridge, but Jason would have to confirm this. How much difference there is between a Fodera standard bridge and custom bridge I don't know, but I DO know that the custom bridge on my YYD is a work of art, just like the rest of the bass, and I really want to keep that level of detail on my next instrument.
 
Hi guys, gotta be quick!!

1. The MGS IS a bit more compact by nature of it being 17.5mm instead of 19.0mm.

2. You could probably set it up at close to 17.0mm, but no tighter than that on our bridge. That said, we have never tried it, so please do not hold me to it...

Cheers,

Jason
 
Ken --

Great to finally meet you and a huge thanks from all of us for the kudos!!

Cheers,

J

The Fodera booth is a wonder. Every bass is literally top of the line. Nice folks, and Pope and Garrison plying their tales off adds to the wonder.

I can honestly say it is the most impressive group of instruments I have seen in one place at one time.

I'll post pics when i get back home
 
Hi guys, gotta be quick!!

1. The MGS IS a bit more compact by nature of it being 17.5mm instead of 19.0mm.

2. You could probably set it up at close to 17.0mm, but no tighter than that on our bridge. That said, we have never tried it, so please do not hold me to it...

Cheers,

Jason

Thanks J, catch you later... Now get back to selling those bad boys!!
 
Lugzy,

You are right...I watched the video again, and there was a momentary reference by Joey to the body carve, maybe indicating that the body has been modified just a bit from the custom MG model. The 17.5mm string spacing is, I believe, the 'standard' spacing even on the custom MG model, and has been the case from the start (I'm pretty sure). In fact, I inquired about an even narrower spacing, which is available (16.5mm), but that would mean using an off-the-shelf Hipshot bridge, which is what they did for Janek Gwizdala's latest bass (an MG shape). I would actually like the 16.5 spacing, but I also don't want to sacrifice the custom Fodera bridge, so I decided to go with the 17.5mm spacing. I do know that there is some difference between the custom bridge and the 'standard' bridge that Fodera uses, and I would suspect that the MG Standard would have the 'standard' bridge, but Jason would have to confirm this. How much difference there is between a Fodera standard bridge and custom bridge I don't know, but I DO know that the custom bridge on my YYD is a work of art, just like the rest of the bass, and I really want to keep that level of detail on my next instrument.

Hi Curt, just seen Jason's brief reply.

I'll have to inquire further regarding the MGS body.

I agree that although it's great to be able to go down to 16.5mm with the Hipshot, whilst being totally functional it looks out of character in relation to the bass, sorry but I had to say it.. With so little call for such a tight bridge spacing (I'm guessing maybe 5-6 basses per annum) it probably wouldn't be cost effective to produce a Fodera branded 16.5 bridge, but you never know. Me personally, I wish I could afford a titanium bridge.
 
I figure if you take the Fodera bridge with wider spacing instead of the Hipshot with the narrower spacing that you wanted, then spacing probably isn't that important to you. The Fodera bridge is definitely a lot prettier to look at, but if you are like me and value the right spacing, then the Hipshot is not much of a sacrifice. Still looks good enough, and I didn't buy the bass to stare at it.

I can't imagine it would be cost effective to have them build a Fodera 16.5mm bridge. The wooden parts of the bass are still Fodera, and it's set up for me, and that's all I care about.
 
I figure if you take the Fodera bridge with wider spacing instead of the Hipshot with the narrower spacing that you wanted, then spacing probably isn't that important to you. The Fodera bridge is definitely a lot prettier to look at, but if you are like me and value the right spacing, then the Hipshot is not much of a sacrifice. Still looks good enough, and I didn't buy the bass to stare at it.

I can't imagine it would be cost effective to have them build a Fodera 16.5mm bridge. The wooden parts of the bass are still Fodera, and it's set up for me, and that's all I care about.

I for one wouldn't buy a Multi-thousand dollar bass just to gape at while it sits perched on a stand, I don't think anyone who buys a Fodera does, but what they do want is an instrument that let's them express their musicality without hindrance and that's what the Fodera shop and their customers strive to achieve. We all want to own the instrument of our dreams but sometimes factors, in or out of our control, may determine that we strike a compromise; as long as we're able to live with that then it isn't compromise, it's now an acceptable solution to the problem. I don't do compromise very well and I think neither do you..

I'm rambling..somebody show me some new basses and shut me up!
 
Curt, a few pics below. My personal thoughts on the bass - if you feel at all stretched at 34" scale, then imho this bass with 35" scale and 19mm spacing is not for you. That is a spec I personally won't play these days. That said the numbers only tell part of the story. How "long" a bass plays depends on many factors. Of all the basses I've owned/played, my Rob Allen feels the shortest. The Fodera tends to feel fairly short as well. It has to do with bridge placement, body contours, horn lengths, etc. With all of that it wasn't a bass that I'd buy as a regular player - just too much for me. When I put it down and picked up the Garrison it was night/day.

That said, if you want one to collect or hang on the wall as a piece of art - fire away. Or if you're a 35" scale/19mm spacing guy, get this bass and have the Bosendorfer of B-strings. :D The Mac ebony top is gorgeous and you won't find (m)any like it.

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This otoh - pure anticipation while I wait for mine to be cranked out

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