Fodera Club Part XIII

[nostatic]

You can make the argument that it is "easier" for Fodera to adopt that mindset because they are making tools for creating music (which are works of art in their own right). But there certainly are companies (employees) that make musical instruments and treat them as just another widget.

Not to go too far down yet another rabbit hole, I am reminded of Thich Nhat Hahn's comments about doing the dishes. He found that he was rushing to do the dishes so that he could relax and drink his tea. But in fact, he needed to be present while doing the dishes and fully engage that activity. If he was rushing through it trying to get to the next thing, he wasn't really in the moment.

ooohhhmmm...

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread

 

[Lugzy]

Munji, i gotta deduct a point for hitting way below the belt. Even Mani Pacquiao would wince at that one!

On the other topic, there are numerous luthiers out there who produce basses of comparable quality to Foderas, and many have excellent customer service. Then there's the grumpy one.

 

[Blue Blood]

I say Fodera should raise their prices that way customer service will be even better

 

[Just Thumpin']

You are welcome to join us in October for our Management Retreat and propose that. LOL!



J

I say Fodera should raise their prices that way customer service will be even better

 

[steubig]

You are welcome to join us in October for our Management Retreat and propose that. LOL!



J

is this also known as red wine fest 2012?

if so, i'd also like to come onboard;-)

 

[Just Thumpin']

The red wine happens AFTER the 10 hours of work each day!

J

is this also known as red wine fest 2012?

if so, i'd also like to come onboard;-)

 

[steubig]

The red wine happens AFTER the 10 hours of work each day!

J

thanks for letting me know when to show up.

doesn't sound like much of a "retreat" :-(

 

[Lugzy]

Robin, elequontly said and I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm glad the Foddy Club members added to the debate as it could have easily been dismissed. I can't help but wonder how he arrived at the conclusion that; High quality + Mass appeal + Famous brand = Fodera inflated pricing/high profit margin?

What I see from Fodera is a very high level of development is multiple areas; not only a clearly superior product, but a commitment to collaboration, innovation, sustainability, and integrity. As an artist and consumer, it's important for me that an object I identify with as closely as my instrument exemplifies the values I aspire to, not only as a musician, but as human being. Hopefully this tool produced by a shop which seems very much to be "awake" will allow me to continue on my own journey, and maybe even bring some of that "wakefulness" to my audiences . . .

 

[Lennard III.]

For me I can honestly say :

beside that I like the feeling to get a new Fodera I also spent the money for my new Bass (which is going into production in 4 month) because I want to invest in this company that Vinny and the guys can continue living his art and build this fine instruments.

 

[Robin Ruscio]

I can't help but wonder how he arrived at the conclusion that; High quality + Mass appeal + Famous brand = Fodera inflated pricing/high profit margin?

I think many high end luxury goods work exactly that way. I admire expensive Swiss watches a lot , for instance, but the 1000% markup and status/brand factor kind of kill some of the fun.

This is a completely different thing altogether. You're paying for the product and keeping the people who build it alive enough to continue doing so.

 

[DELACIUS]

For me it's like this...
I really like Fodera, the way they run business, the way they produce basses and stand behind their work, their customer support and even support before you even decide to buy a bass, and the last I really enjoy wine so much that every 3-4 time in a month I gather with my friends and we have blind tasting which is too much fun

But money wise, I really don't care about prices, I think what you get from Fodera is the price that should be... I've tried a lot of other basses and seems Fodera fits me right, so I rest my case of even thinking of other basses...

but maybe it's just me

 

[Munjibunga]

Munji, i gotta deduct a point for hitting way below the belt. Even Mani Pacquiao would wince at that one!

That went over my head. I think.

 

[rogerwilliamsen]

Boring. Quit talking about the prices.

Are there anyone here that know about a fretless bolt-on emperor 5, passive in sunburst finish that was for sale in the Netherlands in 1999? I would love to buy that bass.

 

[Lennard III.]

Boring. Quit talking about the prices.

1+ on that !

 

[Joelc73]

Not to go too far down yet another rabbit hole, I am reminded of Thich Nhat Hahn's comments about doing the dishes. He found that he was rushing to do the dishes so that he could relax and drink his tea. But in fact, he needed to be present while doing the dishes and fully engage that activity. If he was rushing through it trying to get to the next thing, he wasn't really in the moment.

Nice! A mindfulness reference and Thich Nhat Hahn quote in the middle of a Fodera thread -- I love it!

 

[Lugzy]

That went over my head. I think.

I smile because my first reaction (due to my warped British sense of humour or possibly the lack of), tells me that your countering with another analogous boxing joke, but maybe your not...So to explain, your final sentence reads;

" On the other topic, there are numerous luthiers out there who produce basses of comparable quality to Foderas, and many have excellent customer service. Then there's the grumpy one".

So, I thought that you were referring to a particular famous luthier who's renouned for being brutally honest to the point were he's often regarded as being offensive, hence my pun regarding the low blow. Sorry!

 

[Molan]

Look what's heading my way. . .

Full details here:

http://www.fodera.com/Main/NewBornDetails.aspx?FeaturedItemID=211

So it arrived today and it looks way nicer in the flesh than the pics show.

The fingerboard is quite simply the most amazing piece of Birdseye maple I've ever seen

Nice slim neck and superb action. Sound has that '70's vibe but with lots of room to manoeuvre via the new Pope pre-amp it had fitted.

It's about 10 years old but, I'm guessing thanks to the certified pre-owned system from the team in NYC, it looks like new.

The core tone feels like it will sit really nicely in a live band mix - which is exactly what I wanted it for

Will report more when I've had some time to really play it properly . . .

 

[Lugzy]

So it arrived today and it looks way nicer in the flesh than the pics show.

The fingerboard is quite simply the most amazing piece of Birdseye maple I've ever seen

Nice slim neck and superb action. Sound has that '70's vibe but with lots of room to manoeuvre via the new Pope pre-amp it had fitted.

It's about 10 years old but, I'm guessing thanks to the certified pre-owned system from the team in NYC, it looks like new.

The core tone feels like it will sit really nicely in a live band mix - which is exactly what I wanted it for

Will report more when I've had some time to really play it properly . . .

Beautiful bass, is it really 10 years old?
I could be a closet Monarch head. After drooling over Jason and Nostatics basses, the little voice within's starting to cry "I want one".
Just when I thought I was out, they drag me back in..

 

[jumbodbassman]

thanks for letting me know when to show up.

doesn't sound like much of a "retreat" :-(

i'll bring the Bordeaux

 

[Kwesi]

So yesterday I got to try out one of the Ying Yang Standards (hung out with Ian_s for a bit ) and I've gotta say, that thing had to be among the best basses I've ever touched. Felt good, sounded incredible. Felt pretty much the same way about the only other Fodera I've played (a NYC Deluxe). I still doubt I'll ever actually be able to afford one but good job, not that you need me to tell you that .