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Fodera Club Part XIX

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#41
styro said:
So what's the magic trick?
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If you can't move the TR, I wouldn't bugger with it without calling Fodera.

The instructions that come with the bass seem pretty easy to follow, but I personally haven't had to do anything to my Fodera TR beyond small adjustments.

Someone else might chime in with an easy fix, but personally I would wait until Monday and call. It would really suck if you screwed up your bass unnecessarily!:bawl:
 
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I'm in.
 
#44
styro said:
The action on my Monarch 4 Deluxe is too high.
The truss rod is in reverse (the nut is lifted up towards the fretboard). I can completely unscrew the nut (in fact remove it) even overnight and the action is still too high. That means reverse the truss rod right?

So I use the tool as instructed on the PDF but there is no way I can pull the truss rod out! Regardless of whether strings are tuned or relaxed ... I mean I did not even try to use force (I'm shared sh*tless).

So what's the magic trick?
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In order to pull out the truss rod, you need to unscrew the adjustment head with the Allen wrench tool. It will screw right off. Once you unscrew the head, that will expose a threaded rod. Then you connect the truss removal toll to the threaded rod by screwing them together. Once you do that, slowly remove the truss rod. Once you remove it, spin it 180 degrees and slip it back in. Reconnect the adjustment head and you are in business. If you have any further questions, shoot me a pm and I can give you my number. I would be more than happy to walk you through it.
 
#50
ursusaltered said:
In order to pull out the truss rod, you need to unscrew the adjustment head with the Allen wrench tool. It will screw right off. Once you unscrew the head, that will expose a threaded rod. Then you connect the truss removal toll to the threaded rod by screwing them together. Once you do that, slowly remove the truss rod. Once you remove it, spin it 180 degrees and slip it back in. Reconnect the adjustment head and you are in business. If you have any further questions, shoot me a pm and I can give you my number. I would be more than happy to walk you through it.
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I did all this, PDF explains it nicely except that the truss rod won't move. It's like it's stuck in there ... glued in ...
Of course I do not dare to really pull hard ... does it normally need any real force?
 
#51
styro said:
I did all this, PDF explains it nicely except that the truss rod won't move. It's like it's stuck in there ... glued in ...
Of course I do not dare to really pull hard ... does it normally need any real force?
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You think maybe some of the fingerboard glue seeped out and locked the rod in place? Unlikely, I know, but since glue was mentioned.
 
#52
styro said:
I did all this, PDF explains it nicely except that the truss rod won't move. It's like it's stuck in there ... glued in ...
Of course I do not dare to really pull hard ... does it normally need any real force?
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fwiw, i had a similar situation (may the rod has been in there a long time) and had to have my son hold the bass while I'm gently but forcefully pulled the rod out. it didn't want to budge the first few times, but it did finally; i did it in smaller increments, letting it sit for a couple hours in between pulls. finally got it out and flipped it.

ymmv.
 
#54
styro said:
I did all this, PDF explains it nicely except that the truss rod won't move. It's like it's stuck in there ... glued in ...
Of course I do not dare to really pull hard ... does it normally need any real force?
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I had a bass many years ago that I had to push down with my hand in the center of the neck to get the truss rod assembly out. It's likely not glue, I'm sure the rod goes in after the glue sets up.
 
#59
styro said:
The action on my Monarch 4 Deluxe is too high.
The truss rod is in reverse (the nut is lifted up towards the fretboard). I can completely unscrew the nut (in fact remove it) even overnight and the action is still too high. That means reverse the truss rod right?

So I use the tool as instructed on the PDF but there is no way I can pull the truss rod out! Regardless of whether strings are tuned or relaxed ... I mean I did not even try to use force (I'm shared sh*tless).

So what's the magic trick?
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2 Scenarios:
What I believe is that the green cloth wrapped around the truss rod has been rubbed off a bit during the recent pull-out(s) and push-in(s) - making the green cloth a bit thicker so the truss rod has less room to move now. If you now try to pull the truss rod out then the loosened cloth could be pushed together - making the problem even worse.

Alternatively (and unlikely) there is an unevenness in the rod channel which prevents the truss rod movement now.

You should definitely call Fodera to get their support on this. There are some options to get this fixed but I highly recommend to not try tinkering or applying force on the truss rod without professional advise.
 
#60
After reading all of the forum thoughts, I would highly recommend that you call Fodera. You don't want to mess up your bass man. The wood might have expanded and locked the rod in place or the cloth might be causing the issue. Whatever the problem may be. That is worth calling the pros. Never the less, I hope that it is an easy fix.
 
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