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Fodera Club Part XXV

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It's funny, I remember back when I was a kid and first "discovered" the bass guitar. I had been a struggling guitarist (i.e. I thought I wanted to play guitar but just never felt quite "right" on the instrument). My teacher said to me one day, "why don't you try the bass...you approach music with such a blend of melody and rhythm and that is what bass is all about."

That made me really start listening to music differently and I realized that I was constantly walking around humming the BASS lines of all of my favorite music without having ever realized it. I felt like I had died and gone to heaven. Once I made the switch to bass music became incredibly fun and exciting to me. It was like the language of the bass was pre-wired in my brain but I had never realized it.

I started on piano and guitar at age 8. I was a bit of a prodigy on piano. I had this old jazzer who played trumpet and piano teaching me. I was doing boogie boogie left hand within a few months. Of course at age 8 I would rather be out playing baseball in the street with the neighborhood kids but I did like it. Then after about a year of lessons my teacher died :( I tried some other teachers after that but they sucked. Freddie was cool. I still dabble on keys but sometimes wonder...

Stuck with guitar, picked up banjo for a few years, and after high school dropped out of college to be a rock star on guitar. A few recordings exist from back then:

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You can hear who I was listening to :D

After 4 "lost years", I went back to college, then ended up in grad school. I wanted to start playing jazz but I had a lot of bad habit ingrained on guitar and wasn't patient enough to start over. So I switched to bass, joined the Caltech Big Band (talk about swimming in the deep end). I was still doing guitar gigs, but turns out I was just one of thousands of good guitarists in LA, whereas a bass player who can read, has decent time, and a car that works can get gigs that actually pay :D

For the new album I picked up the guitar again for two tracks and banjo for one. I have to thank my now-departed parents for paying for, and driving me to lessons all those years. One reason I force my son to study piano (now going on 6 years). He can hate me now - he'll thank me later...
 
I definitely am not placing a value judgement on it one way or another as, again, "good tone" is a highly personal thing. I did, however, want to point out that the E5S in that clip is EQ'd in a pretty significant way and would not be what someone would typically expect to hear if they started off with an E5S set-up neutrally on the preamp (or running passively).

+1 are those tapewounds?

For me the ES5 is super versatile and has lots of great musical tones, but if anything it really speaks to me more with the neck pickup favored and the EQ is powerful so you need to be tasteful. Here's some random recordings I did of mine with hi-beams on it just to show off a small amount of the range it has in rock applications. Seems like most Fodera players are either Jazz players or technical/busy players ... but the ES5 is amazing for rock.

fight for your mind
good time boys - dual coil mode
good time boys - single coil mode
paper tiger - neck pickup
scooped singles slap
 
Obviously they look completely different! LOL.

Other than that, my experience with Tulipwood as a FB is that it is more like Maple (i.e. brighter) from a tone standpoint than Brazilian. Unfortunately I have only had personal experience with 3 or 4 Tulipwood FB's, so I am certainly not wanting to come across like an expert on them!

Hope that helps...

J

Jason - do you know about the different between brazilian rosewood and tulipwood as fingerboard? I know the tulipwood is a part of the rosewood family but I don't really know much about it.
 
We will not, however Joey and I will be going to the London Bass Guitar Show on March 1 and 2...

We will be showing instruments alongside our Dealer in the U.K. (Bass Gear Ltd.) in their booth.

Regards,

Jason

Hey there guys, anyone know if Fodera is gonna make it to Musikmesse, Germany this year?
Thanks :bassist:
 
Awesome story...thanks for sharing. My young band experiences started on Trumpet (I sucked) and then moved to Baritone Horn (I wasn't bad) before I decided to get "cool." I also did a lot of singing in both choirs, musicals and band situations...through all of it my reading still is pretty terrible...

J

These are cool posts. I played clarinet for a couple of years in high school and got kicked out of the band because I could not read on my mid term test. As a third chair I listened to the band and played what seemed to fit although not what was written on the music charts. Went to do the mid term audition and when the band director asked why I could not play the piece, I told him what I was doing for the last semester. It was either learn to read or do something else, so I had to quit. It taught me a valuable lesson about harmonizing and coming up with a part that fits in. Fast forward to college and I started noodling around on a guitar, but I could not get the knack for it, but the lower 4 strings were tuned in 4ths and the pattern seemed logical. Then I tuned it down and started playing bass lines. Man, I really like this bass playing stuff. Finally bought a Hondo p bass copy and really started having fun with it. The I happened to buy this Lee Ritenour album "On The Line" featuring this guy playing what appeared to be a bass with 6 strings on it as depicted on the album liner. The intriguing harmonizing and counter melodies while holding down the bottom made me more interested in finding out who this player was. Anthony Jackson. I was hooked on the bass guitar and had to find out more about extended range bass guitars. Listening to any track that AJ plays on, whatever he plays fits so well in the context of the music without calling attention to it. What I've learned is playing what contributes to the music. Today, I'm going back though a lot of his older tracks with Chaka Khan, Paul Simon, and Jorge Dalto, man that stuff just grooves.
 
Very cool story! It is simply amazing how much difference there is in the quality of instructors and how a really great teacher can truly inspire.

J

I started on piano and guitar at age 8. I was a bit of a prodigy on piano. I had this old jazzer who played trumpet and piano teaching me. I was doing boogie boogie left hand within a few months. Of course at age 8 I would rather be out playing baseball in the street with the neighborhood kids but I did like it. Then after about a year of lessons my teacher died :( I tried some other teachers after that but they sucked. Freddie was cool. I still dabble on keys but sometimes wonder...

Stuck with guitar, picked up banjo for a few years, and after high school dropped out of college to be a rock star on guitar. A few recordings exist from back then:

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

You can hear who I was listening to :D

After 4 "lost years", I went back to college, then ended up in grad school. I wanted to start playing jazz but I had a lot of bad habit ingrained on guitar and wasn't patient enough to start over. So I switched to bass, joined the Caltech Big Band (talk about swimming in the deep end). I was still doing guitar gigs, but turns out I was just one of thousands of good guitarists in LA, whereas a bass player who can read, has decent time, and a car that works can get gigs that actually pay :D

For the new album I picked up the guitar again for two tracks and banjo for one. I have to thank my now-departed parents for paying for, and driving me to lessons all those years. One reason I force my son to study piano (now going on 6 years). He can hate me now - he'll thank me later...
 
Obviously they look completely different! LOL.



Other than that, my experience with Tulipwood as a FB is that it is more like Maple (i.e. brighter) from a tone standpoint than Brazilian. Unfortunately I have only had personal experience with 3 or 4 Tulipwood FB's, so I am certainly not wanting to come across like an expert on them!



Hope that helps...



J


They do :) Lol. Thanks for your reply
 
This Thread need more pictures :)

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