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Canadian Grand Prix cancelled for 2nd year
F1 Canadian Grand Prix Canceled for 2021
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadian-grand-prix-f1-montreal-cancelled-1.6005164#:~:text=The 2021 race in Montreal,Boland/The Canadian Press.)&text=71-,For the second consecutive year, public health concerns are forcing,Pole Position and La Presse.
F1 Canadian Grand Prix Canceled for 2021
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadian-grand-prix-f1-montreal-cancelled-1.6005164#:~:text=The 2021 race in Montreal,Boland/The Canadian Press.)&text=71-,For the second consecutive year, public health concerns are forcing,Pole Position and La Presse.
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I mentioned it to a few friends before yesterday's qually... but I predict Danny Rick will be in IndyCar in a few years. He's got the house in L.A... his team owner fields an IndyCar team... I think it's inevitable seeing how things are going.
Gonna be a tough afternoon for Ricciardo to move ahead at Portimao. We'll see how it goes...
Gonna be a tough afternoon for Ricciardo to move ahead at Portimao. We'll see how it goes...
Thoughts after Portimao...
Mercedes, Mercedes, Mercedes... well-oiled and able to do whatever they want... they are simply a machine. Toto Wolff is a heckuva leader. I'm not a Benz fan yet I love that guy.
Just like last year and the year before, Red Bull appears to be chasers and not contenders. For months, the F1 media has been ABSOLUTELY BEGGIN' for some parity in the series and has fueled any story about Red Bull being able to derail the Merc machine. Formula 1's attempt to clip Mercedes' performance with the 2021 rake rules have bounced off Mercedes (while it murdered Aston Martin). Friends, I just don't see Red Bull (or anyone else for that matter) in a position to firmly challenge Toto's guys on a regular basis.
Speaking of Red Bull, I read their new engine department is named "Red Bull Powertrains." As much as Dietrich and his employees love to promote their product, how is it possible they didn't they work in "Energy" or "Wings" into the name of this new division? Seems like a missed opportunity.
Wonder what Checo could've done with a different pit strategy?
Moving on, thoughts on other teams...
I hated to see Kimi step on his schwantz today. If Vettel had made the same mistake, people across the globe would be insisting on his retirement.
Lando had a fantastic race... what a season he's off to! He's stealing Russell's thunder as the next driver in waiting to be called up by one of the bigger teams.
I don't see how anyone can get excited about Danny Rick's performance at Portugal... oooph. The guy botches qualifying and then passes a bunch of guys on Sunday he should've out-qualified = big whoop. Plus, he ran way behind his teammate all weekend. It's drives like this which continue to make me think he'll be in one of Zak's IndyCars in a few years. At least Madison Avenue should be able turn out some entertaining tv commercials when that takes place.
ALLLLLLPIIIIIIIIINE!!! Wow, those guys had a helluva weekend! I guess there's something to the reports they were behind in aero development at the start of the season. By the way, Ocon is the skinniest racing driver I've seen in years. Please eat something, Esteban.
While Ferrari's pit strategy for Carlos certainly didn't pan out, it's nice to see them running better this year. Wouldn't surprise me to see Leclerc on the podium this season.
After an impressive debut, Yuki's had a couple of disappointing weekends. Regardless, AlphaTauri appears to have a decent car. I'd love to see them get back on the podium.
Mazespin was a rolling chicane and could've ended several guys' races. Blue flag, schmue flag!
On to Spain! Love these back-to-back races!!!
Mercedes, Mercedes, Mercedes... well-oiled and able to do whatever they want... they are simply a machine. Toto Wolff is a heckuva leader. I'm not a Benz fan yet I love that guy.
Just like last year and the year before, Red Bull appears to be chasers and not contenders. For months, the F1 media has been ABSOLUTELY BEGGIN' for some parity in the series and has fueled any story about Red Bull being able to derail the Merc machine. Formula 1's attempt to clip Mercedes' performance with the 2021 rake rules have bounced off Mercedes (while it murdered Aston Martin). Friends, I just don't see Red Bull (or anyone else for that matter) in a position to firmly challenge Toto's guys on a regular basis.
Speaking of Red Bull, I read their new engine department is named "Red Bull Powertrains." As much as Dietrich and his employees love to promote their product, how is it possible they didn't they work in "Energy" or "Wings" into the name of this new division? Seems like a missed opportunity.
Wonder what Checo could've done with a different pit strategy?
Moving on, thoughts on other teams...
I hated to see Kimi step on his schwantz today. If Vettel had made the same mistake, people across the globe would be insisting on his retirement.
Lando had a fantastic race... what a season he's off to! He's stealing Russell's thunder as the next driver in waiting to be called up by one of the bigger teams.
I don't see how anyone can get excited about Danny Rick's performance at Portugal... oooph. The guy botches qualifying and then passes a bunch of guys on Sunday he should've out-qualified = big whoop. Plus, he ran way behind his teammate all weekend. It's drives like this which continue to make me think he'll be in one of Zak's IndyCars in a few years. At least Madison Avenue should be able turn out some entertaining tv commercials when that takes place.
ALLLLLLPIIIIIIIIINE!!! Wow, those guys had a helluva weekend! I guess there's something to the reports they were behind in aero development at the start of the season. By the way, Ocon is the skinniest racing driver I've seen in years. Please eat something, Esteban.
While Ferrari's pit strategy for Carlos certainly didn't pan out, it's nice to see them running better this year. Wouldn't surprise me to see Leclerc on the podium this season.
After an impressive debut, Yuki's had a couple of disappointing weekends. Regardless, AlphaTauri appears to have a decent car. I'd love to see them get back on the podium.
Mazespin was a rolling chicane and could've ended several guys' races. Blue flag, schmue flag!
On to Spain! Love these back-to-back races!!!
Patricio O'Ward (IndyCar driver for Arrow-McLaren) earned himself an F1 test today by winning the Indy race at Texas. Zak Brown told him if he won a race, they'd put him in a McLaren F1 car after the season finale at Abu Dhabi.
Kid's 21 years old.
How ya sleepin' tonight, Danny Rick?
Kid's 21 years old.
How ya sleepin' tonight, Danny Rick?
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to motorsports.
When Bernie proposed years ago that F1 should have sections of the track with rain-simulations? Awful idea. Heck, I'd like to see F1 get rid of tire warmers. IndyCar's push-to-pass? Ridiculous. The current state of stage racing, earning points, etc. in NASCAR? I absolutely hate it.
I don't want any gimmicks in the racing I watch.
The thing I love about racing (all racing, not specifically F1) is the pure simplicity of it. Start line, route, finish line. First one (or fastest) to complete the full route wins. The more rules that take F1 further and further away from the simple beauty of racing, the less interested I find myself.
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to motorsports.
When Bernie proposed years ago that F1 should have sections of the track with rain-simulations? Awful idea. Heck, I'd like to see F1 get rid of tire warmers. IndyCar's push-to-pass? Ridiculous. The current state of stage racing, earning points, etc. in NASCAR? I absolutely hate it.
I don't want any gimmicks in the racing I watch.
I second that emotion.
A race should be haul a$$ when the green flag drops all the way to the checkered flag. No stages, no competition yellows, no points until the race is over. No silly penalties for things that don't gain you some unfair advantage.
If you're not fast enough to compete then your car is just a rolling chicane.
However, I am in favor of the new rule in F1 that gives teams in the back more wind tunnel time.
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Patricio O'Ward (IndyCar driver for Arrow-McLaren) earned himself an F1 test today by winning the Indy race at Texas. Zak Brown told him if he won a race, they'd put him in a McLaren F1 car after the season finale at Abu Dhabi.
Kid's 21 years old.
How ya sleepin' tonight, Danny Rick?
Pato was gonna get that test regardless, and deservedly so. He'd likely already be in F1 if not for the goofy Superlicense point metrics.
The Texas track is the perfect illustration of how far racing has fallen. Having to goop the track for one lameass series to make up for a terrible reconfiguration job and then having that backfire so completely with other cars that can typically run decently nearly anywhere is beyond lame.
I am interested in what you speak of.
Please tell more?
Texas races...I am aware...from Netflix F1 Drive to survive
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The Texas Motor Speedway oval, not the Circuit of the Americas road course.
In past times the IndyCars were so fast there that drivers were blacking out and/or experiencing blurred vision from high G forces. IIRC they even had to cancel a race because of that, and tire longevity and maintaining a racy aero package were ongoing problems as well. There were other substantial problems too, this 2017 article will give you some idea: The Godfather's Blog: Texas Motor Speedway Set For Complete Resurfacing
As it turned out, the reprofiling skewed things heavily towards a one groove track, especially in the case of IndyCars. NASCAR has been messing with goopy pavement treatments at various tracks that make a second groove come in faster with their tires, but the goop is highly persistent and tends to make things even worse for IndyCar tires. This last weekend the first race was a complete stinker, and then yesterday's second race was much better, but still pretty sketchy really. Perfect for a very talented young driver who hasn't been concussed a time or three and still feels bulletproof, essentially.
They used to have GREAT IndyCar races at Texas... hands-down, some of the best action of the entire IndyCar calendar. The action was so crazy, me and a lotta folks I know are surprised they didn't launch a car into the stands.
Last weekend's races? Not so exciting.
Btw, any IndyCar watchers besides me getting a little annoyed with Josef Newgarden lately? Causing accidents... whining about his engine... ugh... stop it, dude.
Last weekend's races? Not so exciting.
Btw, any IndyCar watchers besides me getting a little annoyed with Josef Newgarden lately? Causing accidents... whining about his engine... ugh... stop it, dude.
So Nascar is the one that drives round and round in circles..? I have tried to watch it recently.
Indie races are more like a Formula One race with bends and twists etc....But the cars do not look as cool as F1 cars
Indie races are more like a Formula One race with bends and twists etc....But the cars do not look as cool as F1 cars
Yeah, pretty much.
IndyCar (what it's called today) is a racing series that runs on road and street courses in addition to ovals, including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway which is the location of the Indianapolis 500. The cars loosely resemble Formula 1 cars being that they're single-seaters with their tires exposed (hence the nickname "open-wheel"), although the latest versions of IndyCars have partial coverings over their rear tires for safety reasons. On large ovals, IndyCars can achieve speeds in excess of 230 miles per hour, far greater than the top speed of Formula 1 cars... but F1 cars run road courses quicker and more nimbly than IndyCars.
An abbreviated history... when Nigel Mansell, Jacques Villeneuve and Alex Zanardi drove open-wheel cars in North America, it was called CART (Championship Auto Racing Teams) and Champ Car after that with drivers like Sebastien Bourdais and Will Power. In 1996, several teams branched off from CART and formed the Indy Racing League (the IRL). Poor management in CART and control over the Indy 500 were two of the major factors of the divide which is commonly known as "The Split" in American open-wheel racing. CART/Champ Car ran in opposition of the IRL for several years. In the early 2000s, several of the big CART/Champ Car teams switched alliances and jumped ship to the IRL. Once the teams of Penske and Ganassi made the switch to the IRL, the CART/Champ Car days were over. The IRL eventually changed its name to IndyCar.
"IndyCar" or "Indy" are regularly used as generic terms to refer to the machines of CART, IRL or IndyCar. Even though Mansell and those other guys competed in CART and/or Champ Car, it's commonly accepted to say they ran "Indy" or "IndyCars"... folks will know what you mean.
The CART schedule of the early and mid-90s was the most diverse as it included a great collection of tracks across North America and Australia (short ovals, big ovals, road courses, street courses and airport courses. Go look it up -- it was just awesome. The early 90s were the best years as the series featured multiple teams with drivers who could realistically win week in and week out.
Currently, F1 cars look cooler than IndyCars... but both series have prettier cars in their past. CART cars from the early 90s were gorgeous. F1 cars from around the same time period also looked great.
NASCAR (National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing) with it's top division of competition called The Cup Series consists of larger cars with fenders, based on consumer automobiles sold in America by Ford, General Motors and Toyota. Originating in the southeastern United States but now running across the country, NASCAR got its start in the late 1940s. Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are some of its most well-known champions. The series predominantly runs on oval tracks... although the 2021 schedule is nearly made up of 25% road courses.
IndyCar (what it's called today) is a racing series that runs on road and street courses in addition to ovals, including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway which is the location of the Indianapolis 500. The cars loosely resemble Formula 1 cars being that they're single-seaters with their tires exposed (hence the nickname "open-wheel"), although the latest versions of IndyCars have partial coverings over their rear tires for safety reasons. On large ovals, IndyCars can achieve speeds in excess of 230 miles per hour, far greater than the top speed of Formula 1 cars... but F1 cars run road courses quicker and more nimbly than IndyCars.
An abbreviated history... when Nigel Mansell, Jacques Villeneuve and Alex Zanardi drove open-wheel cars in North America, it was called CART (Championship Auto Racing Teams) and Champ Car after that with drivers like Sebastien Bourdais and Will Power. In 1996, several teams branched off from CART and formed the Indy Racing League (the IRL). Poor management in CART and control over the Indy 500 were two of the major factors of the divide which is commonly known as "The Split" in American open-wheel racing. CART/Champ Car ran in opposition of the IRL for several years. In the early 2000s, several of the big CART/Champ Car teams switched alliances and jumped ship to the IRL. Once the teams of Penske and Ganassi made the switch to the IRL, the CART/Champ Car days were over. The IRL eventually changed its name to IndyCar.
"IndyCar" or "Indy" are regularly used as generic terms to refer to the machines of CART, IRL or IndyCar. Even though Mansell and those other guys competed in CART and/or Champ Car, it's commonly accepted to say they ran "Indy" or "IndyCars"... folks will know what you mean.
The CART schedule of the early and mid-90s was the most diverse as it included a great collection of tracks across North America and Australia (short ovals, big ovals, road courses, street courses and airport courses. Go look it up -- it was just awesome. The early 90s were the best years as the series featured multiple teams with drivers who could realistically win week in and week out.
Currently, F1 cars look cooler than IndyCars... but both series have prettier cars in their past. CART cars from the early 90s were gorgeous. F1 cars from around the same time period also looked great.
NASCAR (National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing) with it's top division of competition called The Cup Series consists of larger cars with fenders, based on consumer automobiles sold in America by Ford, General Motors and Toyota. Originating in the southeastern United States but now running across the country, NASCAR got its start in the late 1940s. Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are some of its most well-known champions. The series predominantly runs on oval tracks... although the 2021 schedule is nearly made up of 25% road courses.
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IndyCar is currently essentially using a one design chassis with two engine options. The cars don't automatically change every season, much less every race as sometimes happens in F1 with the richest teams. In the past there were up to half a dozen engines, as many or more chassis designs, and one-off builds just for the Indy 500 were pretty common. In the 60s if you wanted to show up with a helicopter turbine next to the driver instead of a piston engine in the front or rear, you could have at it: STP Turbine Cars of the Indy 500 - Petrolicious Feature
(credit: see link)
Yeah, CART/Champ Car/IRL/IndyCar has predominantly featured off-the-shelf chassis and engines (i.e., the teams usually don't build their own cars and engines like in F1). Penske made their own chassis for several years while buying the same motors available to other teams. As Passinwind wrote, everyone's buying stuff off the shelf now. The Dallara chassis is the current chassis option with either a Honda or Chevrolet motor.
Btw, the overhead view of the turbine IndyCar always trips my trigger... the whole asymmetrical thing is just wild!
Btw, the overhead view of the turbine IndyCar always trips my trigger... the whole asymmetrical thing is just wild!
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