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[JazznFunk]

Playing that loud will cause damage to something eventually - whether it's equipment, ears, or both. Sounds like 1 of the 2 has already happened. Once you damage your ears, they don't fix themselves. Stop trying to compete with a guitarist and tell them to TURN DOWN. You don't need that high of volume to make impactful, heavy music. Wear earplugs. Live to play another day with people who understand that volume knobs go up AND down.

 

[Wasnex]

IMHO, either replace the guitar player or quit and find another band.

 

[Marko 1]

I'm beginning to suspect some of these new guys with similar issues are trolls.

 

[JazznFunk]

IMHO, either replace the guitar player or quit and find another band.

Definitely not feasible to 'repair' the guitar player it seems. Just replace.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

I recently started a band, and my guitar player plays extremely loud, and when I try to match him volume wise I’m running into the problem of frying speakers.
How can I achieve playing at full volume and not sounding like crap and blowing speakers?
Im running Ampeg pf800 head with GK GLX 8x10 4 ohm. I also run the pf 800 4x10 daisy chained into 2x15.
When I run the 8x10 it farts at full volume. Pulse I already fried 3 of the 8 speakers….
I just wanna play LOUD and not worry about damage.
Any input would be much appreciated.

stoner, doom, death metal.

More speakers. In particular, more efficient cabs with extended range. Second, reduce the amount of super Uber low bass frequencies. HPF will help protect your speakers. Thirdly do not scoop out your low mids. increase your low mids instead.

Finally, if your guitarist has a multiple speaker cab, secretly disconnect all but one speakers. Or better yet, fire him.

 

[Pocket Dave]

My point of reference having played pro guitar 4 decades, a good bit of it with Marshall 4-hole amps, is this:

I've got a PF500 - At 4 ohms driving two 8 ohm cabs, that thing is ridiculously loud.

Loud to the level that 90% of venues will fire you.

Maybe your world is different in that regard, though as others have pointed out, you're guitarist is pushing beyond hearing-loss territory; You're complicit if you're trying to match his volume. Once you lose hearing, it doesn't come back, hearing aids or not.

 

[trevcda]

This should do it: 8 x18 drivers with a couple 12/horns for definition! Power it with at least two QSC PL380 amps for the subs, another PL380 for the high end and the pre-amp of your choice.

Also- I agree with everything pointing to stupidity in pursuing this endeavor and the certainty of hearing loss in doing so in the threads above this. Professionals let the FOH do the heavy lifting, which is the only reason I have the subs in that picture.

 

[rapidfirerob]

IMHO, either replace the guitar player or quit and find another band.

This excellent advice sums it up. As others have said, you should be wearing earplugs, in any case. If you don't fire this guy or
walk out yourself, your hearing will be severely damaged, which is forever. Be smart.

 

[Flatwound]

Is this guy the second coming of Jimi Hendrix? If yes, get ear plugs and more cabinets. Maybe an SVT-400 Pro or two. Otherwise make him turn down or leave.

The other night at rehearsal, our guitarist got too loud. I told him to turn down. Next song, he got louder. I stopped playing and held my ears until he looked around to see where the bass player went. I said, “You gotta turn down”. I could see he was a bit peeved, but he turned down. If he didn’t, I’d have picked my stuff up, and walked out.

 

[Old Blastard]

And I thought my band was loud. Damn.

 

[LetItGrowTone]

There's a good chance that he'll never be happy anyway if you and he are ever reasonably volume matched. That was my experience as the 6-string guitarist in that scenario. *I* should have been the bassist, I know now.

 

[Passinwind]

I'm beginning to suspect some of these new guys with similar issues are trolls.

C'mon man, Bubonic420 sounds legit to me.

 

[MichelD]

I went to see my friends classic rock/countryband last week.

The lead guitar player was the quietest guy inthe band. He had great tone and control of his volume.

 

[SJan3]

I recently started a band, and my guitar player plays extremely loud, and when I try to match him volume wise I’m running into the problem of frying speakers.
How can I achieve playing at full volume and not sounding like crap and blowing speakers?
Im running Ampeg pf800 head with GK GLX 8x10 4 ohm. I also run the pf 800 4x10 daisy chained into 2x15.
When I run the 8x10 it farts at full volume. Pulse I already fried 3 of the 8 speakers….
I just wanna play LOUD and not worry about damage.
Any input would be much appreciated.

stoner, doom, death metal.

 

[Egg250]

Quit this band. Tell them you'll come back if they can keep the volume around 90ish db.

 

[tr4252]

I'd also quit this band. The guitarist may be the source of the problem but the rest of your bandmates seem to be enablers, unles they're telling him to turn down. You're also enabling in that you want to up the ante with a louder bass.

This could be a troll thread, or maybe this band is a bunch of young kids with illusions of playing huge venues. Something's off here, not sure what.

Tom

 

[jimmydean]

TURN THE F$@K DOWN ! Tell the guy the volume is too loud to practice and to be honest , it's too much volume to gig at .

 

[bottomzone]

I agree that protecting your hearing is extremely important and goes beyond playing music. If the volume level is as high as you're describing and the guitar player, who is probably on his way to hearing damage if he's not already at that stage, refuses to exercise common sense and decency, it's time to bounce and find another band to play with. I use these earplugs and highly recommend them:
https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-Heari...2080095&sprefix=musician+,aps,173&sr=8-5&th=1

 

[BlueTalon]

You can turn the guitar player's volume down manually, if need be. A quarter turn of a screwdriver in two or three of his speakers should about do it.

 

[Whale guy]

Walk away, and make sure he know why. Done.

Your hearing is priceless, and he should have more respect for his fellow musicians.