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Double Bass Fun and rewarding project or self-inflicted heartache?

It seems to be a moot point now as the listing is gone from both CL and Reverb. Perhaps the seller saw this thread and decided to use it for firewood.

If anyone up here in the northeast US comes across a suitable project, keep me in mind. I don't mind taking a road trip to pick up a promising freebie.
 
Learning is more about knowing what you don't know and attempting to correct it.
Not knowing what you don't know and doing it anyway is more the realm of recklessness..
If it works out and you persist and succeed, you'll be able to do almost anything with a bass.
Like a luthier...How likely is that? You'll need more time than you can ever imagine!
 
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Learning is more about knowing what you don't know and attempting to correct it.
Not knowing what you don't know and doing it anyway is more the realm of recklessness..
If it works out and you persist and succeed, you'll be able to do almost anything with a bass.
Like a luthier...How likely is that? You'll need more time than you can ever imagine!
One of the things I have learned in my work on guitars is that people are very impatient. Much of the work is simply waiting for the last step to dry/cure/expand/contract etc.. I'm very patient and I don't look at this as a bargain hunt or a shortcut. Some people put together jigsaw puzzles to kill time. I tinker.
 
Of course I don't know what I don't know. Nobody knows what they don't know. But there is something to be said for being confronted with a problem and then researching solutions and understanding the what and the why before you do anything. The post above makes it sound like the only choice is to just rip into something haphazardly. That has not been my experience.

I like to find a projects because I have more than a touch of ADHD and reading large amounts for reading sake is very challenging for me. What is great about finding a project is that it gives direction and focus to my learning. It's always been this way.
 
Hearing that, I think you should 100% find a bass project and dive in.

The wiser folks here will help you at every stage in the game, if necessary.

I suggest you get your hands on the (controversial) Traeger book as a starting point.

Hang out here long enough, you’ll find a better candidate for your first project in the marketplace before too long.

Ask around amongst your bass playing friends if anyone has a junker to work on.

I’ve got a lead on a 50’s Kay here in Memphis for $600 that’s in parts. He might be able to ship Greyhound pretty cheap if you’re into it. Not worth it to me, but as a BIG project, it’s gold, and cheaper than ‘luthier school’.
 
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I suggest you get your hands on the (controversial) Traeger book as a starting point.

I've got the first edition Traegar book and Arnold Schnitzer's book as well. And that's about all I've got. What else is there? Elgar? Heron-Allen? Harry Wake? All very old and not very detailed for DB repair as I recall. And this, which is not a whole lot of help, either.

https://www.amazon.com/String-Double-Bass-David-Stanton/dp/B0007E09ZA

Beyond these, except for the bass repair column if each issue of The Double Bassist, I know of nothing. There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum; why is so little of it in published form that is not social media posts?

I want something so granular that it offers detailed instructions on how to get a mouse out of a double bass, even when it is a real mouse.
 
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I've got the first edition Traegar book and Arnold Schnitzer's book as well. And that's about all I've got. What else is there? Elgar? Heron-Allen? Harry Wake? All very old and not very detailed for DB repair as I recall. And this, which is not a whole lot of help, either.

https://www.amazon.com/String-Double-Bass-David-Stanton/dp/B0007E09ZA

Beyond these, except for the bass repair column if each issue of The Double Bassist, I know of nothing. There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum; why is so little of it in published form that is not social media posts?

I want something so granular that it offers detailed instructions on how to get a mouse out of a double bass, even when it is a real mouse.

Along with Treager and another title Icant remember or find right now I have this (not granular just size and reference charts)

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I found a lot of useful info on the internet (with a lot of difficulty I'll admit), like the traditional use of Linen and its tendency to shrink....... (advantage/disadvantage?).

@Markshan annd I won't claim that we have experience or are vastly knowledgeable (about DB repair), but I don't think we should be discouraged as being fools. A little positive help from the gang would have been nice (I don't mean you @GretschWretch)!

Maybe that old bass is off to someone who thinks they can/wants to make a bucket of money ...
 
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Along with Treager and another title Icant remember or find right now I have this (not granular just size and reference charts)

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A little positive help from the gang would have been nice (I don't mean you @GretschWretch
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Oh, no offense taken! I have very little of use to offer on this forum, anyway. (Not that my contributions on the EB side are all that useful, either. :)) And thanks for reminding me of Strobel. I had quite forgotten about him.
 
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Along with Treager and another title Icant remember or find right now I have this (not granular just size and reference charts)

View attachment 5236399

I found a lot of useful info on the internet (with a lot of difficulty I'll admit), like the traditional use of Linen and its tendency to shrink....... (advantage/disadvantage?).

@Markshan annd I won't claim that we have experience or are vastly knowledgeable (about DB repair), but I don't think we should be discouraged as being fools. A little positive help from the gang would have been nice (I don't mean you @GretschWretch)!

Maybe that old bass is off to someone who thinks they can/wants to make a bucket of money ...
All of the most worthwhile things I have ever done in my life have started with at least a few people telling me that I am a fool. Going on auditions. Going to Conservatory. Getting married. Adopting two kids, one of whom is VERY special needs. Honestly if I try to do something and nobody thinks I am being foolish that just tells me that it is so mundane that it's probably a waste of time. I'm content to let ordinary people do ordinary things. I want better than that for myself.
 
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All of the most worthwhile things I have ever done in my life have started with at least a few people telling me that I am a fool. Going on auditions. Going to Conservatory. Getting married. Adopting two kids, one of whom is VERY special needs. Honestly if I try to do something and nobody thinks I am being foolish that just tells me that it is so mundane that it's probably a waste of time. I'm content to let ordinary people do ordinary things. I want better than that for myself.
If I understand correctly, you are not particularly interested in actually playing the bass. This to me and I think quite a few of the other posters is somewhat hard to understand. Playing a bass that I had completely restored would be a huge kick. The playing part is what would make it worth doing. That must be because I'm a player primarily. I've worked on basses but always with the idea that I or somebody I know would be playing them- different strokes, I guess.
 
If I understand correctly, you are not particularly interested in actually playing the bass. This to me and I think quite a few of the other posters is somewhat hard to understand. Playing a bass that I had completely restored would be a huge kick. The playing part is what would make it worth doing. That must be because I'm a player primarily. I've worked on basses but always with the idea that I or somebody I know would be playing them- different strokes, I guess.
Excellent observation. Sometimes I fail to see how there can be a disconnect between what I'm thinking and what I actually say. First off I wouldn't say that I'm not interested in playing it when it's done. I would say that I am concerned that due to a lifetime of injuries I would be unable to play it meaningfully once it's done. But I certainly would noodle on it. Maybe even go out and play the occasional bluegrass jam session, here in Pittsburgh we have a few, if my physical limitations would allow. However, that is different than my interest in woodworking. I'm not any good on guitar either but I am currently making myself a guitar. I am enjoying the process thoroughly. So it's almost like two different interests that are being married together by their commonalities. I'm not building the instruments because I want an instrument to play. I'm building them because I want to learn how to do that. Just for my own edification. At the same time, I also happen to enjoy playing music. When I realized it was the last little bit of reach on a 34 inch scale that was aggravating my rotator cuff I went to a 32-in. The choices on 32-in are much more limited, so when I got one I made some modifications to it so that it would be a little more to my liking. My eventual goal in all of this is to build myself the 32-in scale bass that I want to own. But before I do that I'm doing all these other things to learn how to do that. And in doing so I have been finding that the process of creating and assembling the instrument is just as much fun for me as playing it is. So now I'm looking to expand my horizons a little.
Somebody earlier in the thread mentioned the violin might be a good intermediate project between working on electrics and working on a full size double bass. That made sense to me and I've already looked for a kit and will likely buy it on my next paycheck. Unlike the double bass, I have no thought or intention of ever learning to play the violin. I'll be doing it purely as a learning experience and it will likely go on the wall when I'm done. However, I'm open to the idea that once I fix up a double bass I might actually really enjoy playing it and it may become part of the arsenal. I'm open to that, but that's not my primary motivation in doing it. I'm just finding doing it to be very Zen for me.
Between adopting my special needs son and my wife getting early onset Alzheimer's, I have spent the last 25 years taking care of everybody else. Frankly I didn't even think I'd live this long. So there are certain things I've wanted to do my entire life. Building a guitar and fixing a double bass have always been on the list of things I would like to do, but I've been too busy. I consider the time I have now to be a gift and I am extremely grateful for the chance to do some of these things that I have dreamed of doing but have never been able to. I don't know if any of that makes sense or not, but your post was thoughtful and made great points so I'm trying my best to answer them.
 
We all know that guy who doesn't want to see what's on TV. He just wants to see what else is on TV. That's me, except with life instead of just with TV. Once I figure out how to do something really well I lose interest in it and I want to learn how to do something else.
Plus even though I've been playing bass for 40 years, I don't even primarily think of myself as a bassist. I think of myself as a singer who learned to play bass because every band he was around needed a bass player. As a fat ugly dude in the '80s, I never got the opportunity to be a front man. If I had, that's probably what I would have done and I would have been excellent at it without ever playing any instruments. But as a decent but not great bassist who can sing high harmonies with no problem at all I have literally never not had a gig when I wanted one.
 
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