Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[maisbass]

Good time to plug our community Google Drive shared folder where many of us have been sharing patches. You could store yours there, others can then use them, and you'd theoretically have them as a backup resource (I believe anyone can fully edit the folder so I suppose someone could accidentally delete the files, haven't tested that). Additionally, to get you started there's a TON of great patches already shared there you can use to get back up and running. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Yes, everyone has the ability to write to the folder, edit, and yes, I believe delete too. I do have a backup folder that no one has access to. I try to backup the shared folder periodically just in case someone accidentally deletes a file. Since we are talking about, I probably should back up now! LOL!

 

[Andras Szalay]

Here is a fantastic new demo made by Gundy Keller:



Andras Szalay

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Anyone using this with a DB? I am thinking a filter which opens and closes with more or less pressure on the bow. If I had the skills to programme this I would, but .........

I'm using a Pigtronix EP2 with my cello for exactly that... I would have thought it would be possible to do something similar with the FI since it is just the sensitivity (is that the Envelope Follower fader in the Modulation section of the FI editor?)

 

[Peredur]

I'm using a Pigtronix EP2 with my cello for exactly that... I would have thought it would be possible to do something similar with the FI since it is just the sensitivity (is that the Envelope Follower fader in the Modulation section of the FI editor?)

Thanks, now that I have a clue which fader to move I will try it.

 

[Feral Feline]

Anyone using this with a DB? I am thinking a filter which opens and closes with more or less pressure on the bow. If I had the skills to programme this I would, but .........

I use it with DB, but my bowing skills aren't ... uhm... skills. They're right up there with my programming kills — skills, I meant (lack of) skills.

However, to the best of my understanding this is how a filter works. At least, how my filter on my M5 works. You play harder (louder) and the envelope opens up more, giving you more "quack". Bowing harder makes my bass sound louder, ergo therefore the envelope should open up more.

I'll have to try this bowing thing with my FI, I've only played pizzicato with the FI. Need to practice my bowing more anyway, maybe this will give me incentive.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Thanks, now that I have a clue which fader to move I will try it.

I've been checking the manual, maybe also try the VCA and VCF blocks on the right hand side of the FI editor. If anyone with more knowledge of the FI editor would care to comment that would be useful!

Edit: I am guessing you would set up a blank patch and in the Input section turn everything to zero except Bass then use the VCF section for the filter sensitivity... I might try it out later and if I get anywhere I will post it in here.

 

[Randy Ward]

Sorry to be boring for a moment..... but I'd like to go back to a topic that was discussed earlier in the thread: Duty and import taxes from Hungary to the US.(I've almost sold enough gear to purchase an FI so it's on my mind)

From what I've read in the thread, people have been hit with about 30.00 USD duty tax and handling sometime after the delivery of the pedal. I asked my local shipper and she showed me an online calculator for this. We put in the numbers and identified the Future Impact 1 as a Synthesizer module (not a pedal) and it showed zero due. Although in the calculations I had to assume that the insurance was included in Panda-Audio's shipping and handling fee which may be incorrect. Maybe just the definition of the item as a Synthesizer module would change the fee?

However the Shipping Provider CAN charge a handling fee (see very bottom) but according to my friend 30.00 is quite high for an item this size and weight and for the total value.

see example below for a copy pasta from the duty calculator site, and let me know if I have made a mistake somewhere.

Import duty & taxes made easy | DutyCalculator

Import duty & taxes calculation result
From where to where you import
Edit
Importing from: Hungary
Importing to: United States - Florida (view country guide)
Shipping method: Courier
2
The type of product, its value and where it was manufactured
Edit
Product description: Synthesizer Modules
Product category: Synthesizers - Valued $100 or over each (Upgrade account to get HS code)
Total product value: €314.96
3
The cost of shipping and insurance of importing
Edit
Shipping costs: €20.00
Insurance costs: €9.00
Calculation results

Edit
Total customs value (FOB): US$354.55 This is the amount that customs values your import at
- Duty: US$0.00
- Merchandise Processing Fee: US$0.00
Total import duty & taxes due: US$0.00 This is the amount that needs to be paid to customs
- Product, shipping & insurance: US$387.19
Total landed cost: US$387.19 This is the total cost of importing, including product, shipping, insurance and import duty & taxes


at exchange rate of 10 USD = 8.88 EUR

Calculation and compliance notes
Notes on duty & taxes rates and compliance

• Synthesizer Modules has an import duty rate of 5.4%. If the product is made of endangered species, import of this product requires a CITES license. Restrictions may apply for shipping this product with courier or postal companies. Please note that packaging and labeling requirements apply to Lithium batteries whether they are contained in the equipment or sent separately from the device. Please contact your courier for more information.

Notes on import taxes due

• No duties because the total FOB does not exceed US$800.00
• No Merchandise Processing Fee because the total FOB value does not exceed US$800.00
• Please note that your shipping provider may add an additional handling fee
• Read more on how import duty & taxes are calculated for United States here

Will there be any extra charges from the shipping provider?
The shipping provider or broker handling the import may charge handling fees to clear an import from customs. Examples of these fees are:

• a customs clearance fee, or customs handling fee for processing the import declaration
• an advancement fee for paying the duty and VAT on behalf of the recipient
• an airline handling fee for loading and unloading the goods
• a security fee for screening or x-raying the goods

 

[Jonny5bass]

Sorry to be boring for a moment..... but I'd like to go back to a topic that was discussed earlier in the thread: Duty and import taxes from Hungary to the US.(I've almost sold enough gear to purchase an FI so it's on my mind)

From what I've read in the thread, people have been hit with about 30.00 USD duty tax and handling sometime after the delivery of the pedal. I asked my local shipper and she showed me an online calculator for this. We put in the numbers and identified the Future Impact 1 as a Synthesizer module (not a pedal) and it showed zero due. Although in the calculations I had to assume that the insurance was included in Panda-Audio's shipping and handling fee which may be incorrect. Maybe just the definition of the item as a Synthesizer module would change the fee?

However the Shipping Provider CAN charge a handling fee (see very bottom) but according to my friend 30.00 is quite high for an item this size and weight and for the total value.

see example below for a copy pasta from the duty calculator site, and let me know if I have made a mistake somewhere.

Import duty & taxes made easy | DutyCalculator

Import duty & taxes calculation result
From where to where you import
Edit
Importing from: Hungary
Importing to: United States - Florida (view country guide)
Shipping method: Courier
2
The type of product, its value and where it was manufactured
Edit
Product description: Synthesizer Modules
Product category: Synthesizers - Valued $100 or over each (Upgrade account to get HS code)
Total product value: €314.96
3
The cost of shipping and insurance of importing
Edit
Shipping costs: €20.00
Insurance costs: €9.00
Calculation results

Edit
Total customs value (FOB): US$354.55 This is the amount that customs values your import at
- Duty: US$0.00
- Merchandise Processing Fee: US$0.00
Total import duty & taxes due: US$0.00 This is the amount that needs to be paid to customs
- Product, shipping & insurance: US$387.19
Total landed cost: US$387.19 This is the total cost of importing, including product, shipping, insurance and import duty & taxes


at exchange rate of 10 USD = 8.88 EUR

Calculation and compliance notes
Notes on duty & taxes rates and compliance

• Synthesizer Modules has an import duty rate of 5.4%. If the product is made of endangered species, import of this product requires a CITES license. Restrictions may apply for shipping this product with courier or postal companies. Please note that packaging and labeling requirements apply to Lithium batteries whether they are contained in the equipment or sent separately from the device. Please contact your courier for more information.

Notes on import taxes due

• No duties because the total FOB does not exceed US$800.00
• No Merchandise Processing Fee because the total FOB value does not exceed US$800.00
• Please note that your shipping provider may add an additional handling fee
• Read more on how import duty & taxes are calculated for United States here

Will there be any extra charges from the shipping provider?
The shipping provider or broker handling the import may charge handling fees to clear an import from customs. Examples of these fees are:

• a customs clearance fee, or customs handling fee for processing the import declaration
• an advancement fee for paying the duty and VAT on behalf of the recipient
• an airline handling fee for loading and unloading the goods
• a security fee for screening or x-raying the goods

I believe the import duties vary from state to state.

 

[Randy Ward]

I believe the import duties vary from state to state.

Good point Jonny5bass; thanks. I guess the calculator can be used by anyone to see what their fees might be.

 

[maisbass]

@Andras Szalay @lokki

Any news on updates for the FI? There was some exciting discussion about new features a while back, updates, etc. it's been awfully quiet.

 

[Askia]

Dear F.I. users,
please help me, I have tracking issues. I play passive basses, and as far as I can tell I have good muting right and left hand technic. My problem is, that I can't make the unit do proper tracking that I can rely on. I have put compressor in front of the unit, tried different things, but sometimes it works, sometimes not, and I don't feel safe on concerts becouse of this. I'm curious about your ways of using the F.I.. It can be a problem as well, that the things I'm using the unit for are rather busy bass lines, so I have to play very clean, so I'm playing them with my Zoom B3n with some defret, Z-tron and chorus effects... of course it doesn't sound as good
Thanks for the advices!

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Dear F.I. users,
please help me, I have tracking issues. I play passive basses, and as far as I can tell I have good muting right and left hand technic. My problem is, that I can't make the unit do proper tracking that I can rely on. I have put compressor in front of the unit, tried different things, but sometimes it works, sometimes not, and I don't feel safe on concerts becouse of this. I'm curious about your ways of using the F.I.. It can be a problem as well, that the things I'm using the unit for are rather busy bass lines, so I have to play very clean, so I'm playing them with my Zoom B3n with some defret, Z-tron and chorus effects... of course it doesn't sound as good
Thanks for the advices!

I'm not the most accurate player and also use passive basses (fretless) and I have no tracking issues... I run through an FEA compressor mostly but even without it's not an issue. Try adjusting the Note On and Note Off parameters which by default are both set to 5 - I have Note On set to 8 and Note Off set to 6.

 

[foudufafa]

Dear F.I. users,
please help me, I have tracking issues. I play passive basses, and as far as I can tell I have good muting right and left hand technic. My problem is, that I can't make the unit do proper tracking that I can rely on. I have put compressor in front of the unit, tried different things, but sometimes it works, sometimes not, and I don't feel safe on concerts becouse of this. I'm curious about your ways of using the F.I.. It can be a problem as well, that the things I'm using the unit for are rather busy bass lines, so I have to play very clean, so I'm playing them with my Zoom B3n with some defret, Z-tron and chorus effects... of course it doesn't sound as good
Thanks for the advices!

I have the same exact problem. I take pride in my clean technique and I can't get the FI to track correctly, especially octaves. I tried adjusting settings, boosting low and mids to no avail. To the point that I am considering reselling it

 

[bassvirtuoso]

Dear F.I. users,
please help me, I have tracking issues. I play passive basses, and as far as I can tell I have good muting right and left hand technic. My problem is, that I can't make the unit do proper tracking that I can rely on. I have put compressor in front of the unit, tried different things, but sometimes it works, sometimes not, and I don't feel safe on concerts becouse of this. I'm curious about your ways of using the F.I.. It can be a problem as well, that the things I'm using the unit for are rather busy bass lines, so I have to play very clean, so I'm playing them with my Zoom B3n with some defret, Z-tron and chorus effects... of course it doesn't sound as good
Thanks for the advices!

I have the same exact problem. I take pride in my clean technique and I can't get the FI to track correctly, especially octaves. I tried adjusting settings, boosting low and mids to no avail. To the point that I am considering reselling it

+1 to @ficelles idea - play around with the two global (yellowed) settings on the main knob, Note On and Note Off. Took me a little playing around to finally find the sweet spots for my playing. I can play with even a little sloppiness and still have it track fine. Also, another thing that can impact the tracking are the patches themselves. Try a bunch of the TB User Created patches, they might be better since they were manually tweaked, or go into your favorite stock ones and try to tweak them. @gastric has posted in here how to adjust patches if they don't track well.

 

[Adamixoye]

Beyond Note On and Note Off, Input Level is another consideration.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Beyond Note On and Note Off, Input Level is another consideration.

Yes indeed - I turn it up until it goes into the red and some notes start to double-trigger then back off a bit, and that works fine.

 

[Askia]

+1 to @ficelles idea - play around with the two global (yellowed) settings on the main knob, Note On and Note Off. Took me a little playing around to finally find the sweet spots for my playing. I can play with even a little sloppiness and still have it track fine. Also, another thing that can impact the tracking are the patches themselves. Try a bunch of the TB User Created patches, they might be better since they were manually tweaked, or go into your favorite stock ones and try to tweak them. @gastric has posted in here how to adjust patches if they don't track well.

Sorry for my lack of attention, but I can't find that yellowed global setting part with the note on and note off! And it drives me crazy!!! Where is it? Please show it, or explain it please!

 

[Adamixoye]

Sorry for my lack of attention, but I can't find that yellowed global setting part with the note on and note off! And it drives me crazy!!! Where is it? Please show it, or explain it please!

I didn't realize that they're not in the editor (at least, similarly to you, I cannot find them in that screenshot), but they're on the pedal itself.

 

[Askia]

I didn't realize that they're not in the editor (at least, similarly to you, I cannot find them in that screenshot), but they're on the pedal itself.

I've just looked down to the unit itself... Thanks anyway!

 

[bassvirtuoso]

I didn't realize that they're not in the editor (at least, similarly to you, I cannot find them in that screenshot), but they're on the pedal itself.

I've just looked down to the unit itself... Thanks anyway!

Yeah, you won't find them in the editor because they're global params for the pedal itself, so the changes are for ALL patches.