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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

#5,003
BurningSkies said:
It's a cool feature if you're in a pinch but the "OK (within +-3cents)" doesn't convince me I won't be using separate pedal, something with .1 of a cent accuracy.
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Thats not an issue for me. I can use a clip tuner for details. What I wanted was an easy mute. I'm not one to bring a huge board to shows. I like small boards with maybe 3, 4 pedals at most. Really helps me maximize what I have and my mind likes the limitations. So I didn't want to add the one thing I did want - which was a mute pedal which usually is a tuner like a Boss tu-2 for example.
 
#5,005
Yep, I updated and all of my patches are safe. I do see that the input is set for bass ('bss') but I didn't notice any difference in tracking. I only had 10 minutes or so to play with it so I'll mess with it later.
 
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cosmicevan said:
So has anyone checked out the new firmware yet? Is it working? Same easy as the other upgrade? What happens to your patches when doing the upgrade? Preserved or replaced?
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Unfortunately I’m working really late tonight but I don’t think I would have updated anyway. I have a few gigs this weekend and I don’t want to upgrade until I get through the gigs. Not feeling the trial by fire lol!
I’ll probably do so on a Sunday evening.
 
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maisbass said:
I believe this is the "temporary new editor". IIRC there will be another editor coming soon with the rest of the new features @Andras Szalay spoke about here.
Nevertheless, I am happy that at least now I will be able to back up my pedal to the computer!
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Yes, this is right. So, just to clear misunderstanding, 2.20 version files are exactly compatible with earlier ones. The only difference of the editor from earlier ones (among minor bugfixes) is that you can read out your sounds from your FI (but the FI program has other major new features, what you can read in the docs). This is what you will need when implementing the next, the most important upgrade that we ever release, 3.00, if you want to port some or all of the sounds from your device for the new software. This may sound like frightening for some, but do not be afraid, we double checked already everything; and if you would not be satisfied for any reason with 3.00 you can step back anytime to whatever version you want.
I am sorry for the delay, we started to work busily with the team on new sounds early April; but during the work so many new ideas came up to further enhance the possibilities of Flexi, that we decided not to push it for a later release, instead rather they will be included right now. Now, yesterday we made a deadline for new ideas, finalized the changes in the file format, and going ahead with the sounds, bugfixes and the editor. So, sorry again, but believe me it will be worth to wait for!

Andras Szalay
 
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Adamixoye said:
One thing about the One Control MIDI cables is they are not fully wired to the MIDI spec, basically if you put them in a cable tester you will notice a missing connection (I forget the pin number details). One effect I've noticed is that you cannot use them for carrying power, such as to/from the MIDI Solutions Merge and Thru boxes.
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A correct MIDI cable is connected between pins 2 (the middle pin of the 5 DIN plug, the shielding of the cable should be connected to it), and the two wires on pins 4 and 5. Furthermore, the metal shield of the DIN plugs must be isolated from the cable shielding. A MIDI OUT on a device should have its ground connected to pin 2. A MIDI IN on a device MUST NOT have pin 2 connected to anything. A huge number of manufacturers do not understand the idea behind this, and all kind of wrong implementations exist. The important thing is that the MIDI source device must be electrically isolated from the MIDI destination device, this guarantees that you do not get an audio hum from a ground loop. The two signal cables are isolated through an optical coupler in the receiving device, but this is in vain if by stupid implementation bug the ground is connected anyway. Those little boxes that squeeze power through the MIDI cable of course do not fulfill this, but if they are not audio devices then it may not matter. However, it can never be sure that they will work, since they rely on the way the MIDI OUT is implemented in the sender device, and manufacturers have ingenious ways how to do that deviating from the original specs. I was angry when I recognized that the AKAI engineers in Japan changed my original hardware design of the HV10 harmonizer, and they connected pin 2 of MIDI IN to ground. It took me a while to understand why do I get an awful hum on my mic when I drive the harmonizer through MIDI. Since then I always use a special cable for that, on which I cut through the shielding connection to pin 2 on one end.

Andras Szalay
 
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BurningSkies said:
It's a cool feature if you're in a pinch but the "OK (within +-3cents)" doesn't convince me I won't be using separate pedal, something with .1 of a cent accuracy.
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It depends on what do you want to use it for. If you want to tune a precision sine generator, then I recommend to use the .1 cent accurate device :) . But if you want to tune a guitar, then believe me this is not the important thing that matters. I tested the FI tuner so, that I tuned my bass with it, and then I checked the tuning with the most accurate tuners what I have. It convinced me that the tuning was perfect. It is a common myth that the tuning resolution is the most important thing. Wrong. It is the stability of pitch tracking that matters, and since the FI tuner uses the high quality pitch tracking of the device that is there anyway, it is as good as any best tuner that you can find, but it locks on the frequency much faster than ordinary tuners, therefore you can tune the guitar significantly faster with the FI. You can see that 0.1 cents do not matter at all, when you just try pick louder or softer the guitar; you can see (especially with light strings) that the pitch can be up to 20 cents different, depending how you pick!

Andras Szalay
 
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Totally agree with Andras on the tuning thing, I consider +/- 2 cents to be "in tune" with my bass or guitar, 0.1 cents is pointless as the pitch itself is not remotely that stable.
 
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cosmicevan said:
...but as effects junkies in general, we love redundancy. I am sure if I sat with the Future Impact and really programmed it, I could probably let go of way more than a tuner...but that is excellent food for thought regarding the built in tuner. I will DEFINITELY be giving it another look!
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Im personally not an effects junkie so i love that this tuner can work if my clip on fails or i just want a quick reference. I have a small board with a little strymon power brick under it. Its super rad and lets me be very very portable and flexible in my setup. Having to pull something to add a mute pedal would have bummed me out, so this is a very welcome feature to me.

Andras is knocking it out of the park with the updates. I am excited for 3.0.
 
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I'm definitely not a fan of upgrading the pedal online, it never seems to work for me. I get to the quickly led blinking part but it never goes past the updating... status. This happened with the first online update and now again. I'm using a iConnectMIDI2 interface.
 
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Chris Ramlar said:
I'm definitely not a fan of upgrading the pedal online, it never seems to work for me. I get to the quickly led blinking part but it never goes past the updating... status. This happened with the first online update and now again. I'm using a iConnectMIDI2 interface.
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I do not think that your problem depends on online upgrading, very probably it is the interface that you use. Try to use upgrading from the editor, I believe it will not work either.

Andras Szalay
 

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