Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[Randy Ward]

Current V4 owners running V4.12 or V4.5 firmware are encouraged to install the free upgrade. Download it from www.panda-audio.com. We hope you enjoy the new firmware!

When I go to update the firmware with the chrome browser; it reads:
The latest future Impact is 4.50
Is it actually the 4.51 version of the firmware. or am I in the wrong place?​

 

[Randy Ward]

When I go to update the firmware with the chrome browser; it reads:
The latest future Impact is 4.50
Is it actually the 4.51 version of the firmware. or am I in the wrong place?

After I read the procedure I downloaded the update and installed using the editor file>firmware update

 

[Quatschmacher]

When I go to update the firmware with the chrome browser; it reads:
The latest future Impact is 4.50
Is it actually the 4.51 version of the firmware. or am I in the wrong place?​

Clear your browser cache (CTRL+F5 on Windows).

 

[Dan 5789]

Hmmm, Mac editor still at 4.50. Tried updating via DL and editor (chrome method only gives the 4.50 option), unit says 4.51 on boot but no FM sounds only VA settings work. Not sure what I did wrong. Press both buttons to get Glb, not sure what to press next to get 'em back! Perhaps must wait for new Mac editor?

 

[Quatschmacher]

Hmmm, Mac editor still at 4.50. Tried updating via DL and editor (chrome method only gives the 4.50 option), unit says 4.51 on boot but no FM sounds only VA settings work. Not sure what I did wrong. Press both buttons to get Glb, not sure what to press next to get 'em back! Perhaps must wait for new Mac editor?

This is covered in the addendum; please read the part about firmware upgrade. You need to initialise the FM sounds (or all global settings) after a firmware upgrade for the FM sounds to work.

 

[Dan 5789]

Thank you Quatschmacher!!!! I Got em working again, found the relevant instructions in the 4.5 not 4.51 addendum (d'oh!). Thanks again!

 

[Quatschmacher]

Thank you Quatschmacher!!!! I Got em working again, found the relevant instructions in the 4.5 not 4.51 addendum (d'oh!). Thanks again!

It should also be visible in the on-screen prompts during the firmware update process.

 

[Chizzops]

It should also be visible in the on-screen prompts during the firmware update process.

Can we get a changelog for the 4.51 update?

 

[Gsnorgathon]

How's this?

 

[Quatschmacher]

Can we get a changelog for the 4.51 update?

It’s already on the download page for v4.51 (“version history”).

 

[Bassheart365]

Thank you Quatschmacher!!!! I Got em working again, found the relevant instructions in the 4.5 not 4.51 addendum (d'oh!). Thanks again!

Wait…the relevant instructions aren’t in the 4.51 addendum?

 

[Quatschmacher]

Wait…the relevant instructions aren’t in the 4.51 addendum?

As stated in the 4.51 addendum (which, assuming from your response, you haven’t yet read), the instructions are now shown on the screen as you do the update. It talks you through the whole process. If users choose to not read them at that point there’s really no hope for them.

 

[golem]

LOL I didn't even see the release notes .pdf, but kept searching for it

I was looking for the sustain/freeze for FM and hoping it would somehow be possible.

"FI_4_version_history_v4.51.pdf"

Version 4.51 4/30/2026
3. MIDI CC64 (Sustain) for FM implemented

Tested NOT working in FM, but still working in VA on FW v4.51.

I'm expecting the sustain/freeze to work on any sound in VA and FM mode, so no need to have a certain setting in FI editor right?

 

[Quatschmacher]

LOL I didn't even see the release notes .pdf, but kept searching for it

I was looking for the sustain/freeze for FM and hoping it would somehow be possible.

"FI_4_version_history_v4.51.pdf"

Version 4.51 4/30/2026
3. MIDI CC64 (Sustain) for FM implemented

Tested NOT working in FM, but still working in VA on FW v4.51.

I'm expecting the sustain/freeze to work on any sound in VA and FM mode, so no need to have a certain setting in FI editor right?

As with VA, if you want infinite sustain, it needs to be a patch whose envelope has a non-zero envelope sustain. Otherwise it just allows the decay stage to fully complete just as if you had held down a key on a keyboard.

 

[golem]

As with VA, if you want infinite sustain, it needs to be a patch whose envelope has a non-zero envelope sustain. Otherwise it just allows the decay stage to fully complete just as if you had held down a key on a keyboard.

Yeah, so if you can hold a note with either FIeditor keyboard or Bass then sustain/freeze should also work in either VA/FM (non-zero envelope sustain).
But if the note automatically decays by itself, as with an intentional zero envelope sustain built-in, then you cannot sustain/freeze.
I will test this ....

 

[Quatschmacher]

Yeah, so if you can hold a note with either FIeditor keyboard or Bass then sustain/freeze should also work in either VA/FM (non-zero envelope sustain).
But if the note automatically decays by itself, as with an intentional zero envelope sustain built-in, then you cannot sustain/freeze.
I will test this ....

Correct.

Easiest way to test is to find a patch which sustains infinitely when using the editor’s keyboard. This should then sustain by sending CC64 before releasing the key/stopping the string.

 

[golem]

Correct.

Easiest way to test is to find a patch which sustains infinitely when using the editor’s keyboard. This should then sustain by sending CC64 before releasing the key/stopping the string.

Thanks, this was the thing .... the first FM preset is with zero envelope sustain and I just didn't test sustain on others lol.
The sustain now works as intended for both VA and FM.

You can make this smooth tone change with sustain, super useful

How quick was this bug fix turn-around, good work and we are so lucky

 

[Quatschmacher]

Thanks, this was the thing .... the first FM preset is with zero envelope sustain and I just didn't test sustain on others lol.
The sustain now works as intended for both VA and FM.

You can make this smooth tone change with sustain, super useful

How quick was this bug fix turn-around, good work and we are so lucky

Glad to hear it. You had me worried. I had tested the FM sustain.

 

[golem]

Glad to hear it. You had me worried. I had tested the FM sustain.

Yeah I quickly had to accept the fact that zero envelope sustain is a thing; didn't even think about it for this pedal. It makes perfect sense of course.
The sustain is not like a freeze pedal (looping a sample snapshot), but a built-in part of the sound envelope, with the advantages this gives.

 

[golem]

Example of switch pedal for program down and sustain on my T-Rex ToneTrunk 56 Pedalboard

Temporary setup on my synth/octave Pedalboard

The Ampero Switch is very low profile and works great in front...