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G&L Club Part 7

picked up this little number today

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It's a bittersweet day. I must resign my G&L club membership for the time being. When I ordered my empress JB-5 more than a year ago I had no idea fretboard radius was something that could bother me on a 5 string. Had I known, I would have asked for 12" radius instead of the standard 9.5". I'll be back though. I see a CLF Research L-1000 strung BEAD in my future. I ended up doing a local trade for a Maruszczyk Elwood L5. It was a trade of light basses. :)

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When I ordered my empress JB-5 more than a year ago I had no idea fretboard radius was something that could bother me on a 5 string. Had I known, I would have asked for 12" radius instead of the standard 9.5".

I knew fretboard radius was an issue for me, but bought a used empress JB-5 with the 9.5" radius anyway because the bass felt so great otherwise, and the price was right. Turned out I just couldn't bond with it due (largely) to the radius--every time I'd switch to one of my 12" radius G&Ls, it was like "aahhhh...so nice!" I'm still thinking about ordering one with the 12" radius, but it's tough to justify when I'm not playing any gigs these days.
 
I knew fretboard radius was an issue for me, but bought a used empress JB-5 with the 9.5" radius anyway because the bass felt so great otherwise, and the price was right. Turned out I just couldn't bond with it due (largely) to the radius--every time I'd switch to one of my 12" radius G&Ls, it was like "aahhhh...so nice!" I'm still thinking about ordering one with the 12" radius, but it's tough to justify when I'm not playing any gigs these days.

I had never even thought about it before! I owned a lot of 5-String basses before this purchase. I guess 9.5" is either rare or I just had crazy luck.

Peavey USA Cirrus 5
Akai Project 1997 5 String
Waterstone Passive PJ 5-Sring
MTD Kingston 5
Cort Arona 5
Peavey Axcelerator 5
ESP LTD Elite Series J5
LTD Surveyor 405
Steinberger spirit XZ-5
G&L L2500 Tribute
Ibanez SR505
Peavey Millennium 5+
 
I was just nosing around the Sweetwater stock, looking at weights. They've a couple of SB-1s and a LB-100 atm, Fullerton Deluxes made from alder – all three lighter than my Squier P made from basswood. (I know the SB body is more svelte than the LB, but I don't know how the two shapes relate to a standard P)

I'm guessing that somewhere along the line, a selection is being made, to avoid especially heavy bits of alder – do they do the same for their basswood? The option (MRSP $72) is advertised as "Lightweight American Basswood".

On average, do the USA basswood instruments come in much lighter than the alder? Empress (MRSP $143) seems to be at least 1 lb lighter then alder on average. Does basswood split the difference?

(And how pointless is it asking questions like this when all we have is tiny slivers of anecdotal evidence? :dead: )

Perhaps a better pair of questions would be: do alder SB-1s always come in under 9 lbs these days, and does anyone feel the $72 for basswood is worth it?
 
Slight derail but I've always been intrigued by those Akai Project basses.
Every single thing about it screams high end and professional. Mine was the smartest bass purchase of my life, just $625+tax. It sat in a local music shop for more than a year and I can't fathom why scores of other people didn't snatch it up before I did. It has 18v active circuitry but I've never even bothered putting batteries in it because the passive mode sounds perfect. I would recommend to anyone, if you see one of these in good condition for $1000 or less, snatch it up! It has the quality and feel of a $3000+ bass. (In my opinion)
 
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After ordering over 6 months ago, this baby if finally on its way and should be here any day now. Empress wood body and 12" radius. I ordered it through Sweetwater. G&L shipped it to them for inspection, and they were nice enough to take pics for me. View attachment 4424308View attachment 4424309 View attachment 4424310View attachment 4424311 View attachment 4424312View attachment 4424313 View attachment 4424314
G&L metal flake finishes are just fantastic. And the silver ……. WOW!!!
 
I was just nosing around the Sweetwater stock, looking at weights. They've a couple of SB-1s and a LB-100 atm, Fullerton Deluxes made from alder – all three lighter than my Squier P made from basswood. (I know the SB body is more svelte than the LB, but I don't know how the two shapes relate to a standard P)

I'm guessing that somewhere along the line, a selection is being made, to avoid especially heavy bits of alder – do they do the same for their basswood? The option (MRSP $72) is advertised as "Lightweight American Basswood".

On average, do the USA basswood instruments come in much lighter than the alder? Empress (MRSP $143) seems to be at least 1 lb lighter then alder on average. Does basswood split the difference?

(And how pointless is it asking questions like this when all we have is tiny slivers of anecdotal evidence? :dead: )

Perhaps a better pair of questions would be: do alder SB-1s always come in under 9 lbs these days, and does anyone feel the $72 for basswood is worth it?

The Janka Hardness scale correlates pretty well to relative wood weights. Empress/Paulownia is around 300 and Basswood at around 410 - both lighter even than most Pines but not as light as Balsa (100). These are all softer woods and will dent more easily than denser woods.

The ratings apply generally - each wood type in reality will have a range with heavier/lighter examples. (I've seen some some really heavy basswood guitars…)

As far as G&L, I shopped around a year ago for a Tribute LB-100. I could not find an Ash-bodied type that weighed less than 10 lbs., and most were 10.5-11.25. The painted versions were Basswood. The one I bought at 9.2 lbs. was the lightest I came across, but most seemed to be 10.25 or less. (Note that these were not Swamp Ash, but the heavier and now more common American Ash.)

Empress is a good wood, though - it's light but also strong.