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G&L Club Part 7

Did the tuner swap involve drilling new holes?
Yes, very small movement though.

comparison (USA on bottom with logo)
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Finished product (very happy old holes were hidden under the new machines!)
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They didn't come out 100% straight, I think. But oh well, the bass plays very well! :D
 
A question for those who own both an L2000 and an L2500:
Is there a tonal difference between them? For instance, I can imagine the fact that the L2500-pickups have 10 polepieces closer together, instead of 8, having an impact on the tone.

I ask, because I used to own a late 90's L2000, wich I sold for some reason. In 2018 I ordered a new L2500, and it seems to me that it sounds a little different; slightly harsher in the upper mids. This is more pronounced in active mode, wich is another difference; I remember the preamp having a smaller impact on the tone.

Of course, these differences can be ascribed to bad memory, or other differences in gear. I don't know for sure though, so I'm asking you.
Thanks!
 
I heard somewhere SB1/2 was meant to mean 'student bass'

If so, it's not a very accurate statement. My SB2 is hot as a pistol as far as volume and "cut through the mix" factor.
I always assumed it stood for Super Bass as it is the only hot factory P bass that looked similar but really is the next generation of awesome.
 
I think we resolved a few posts up that SB stood for "standard bass". Recall that the early SB-2 had 2 single coil pickups and a selector switch. I could speculate as to why this was considered "standard", but I've done enough speculation for this week. Maybe someone who owns a gen 1 SB could speculate better. It is my understanding (one step down from a recollection) that those early SB's retailed for less $$'s than the L-series.
 
It is my understanding (one step down from a recollection) that those early SB's retailed for less $$'s than the L-series.
According to the '82 pricelist, found on the guitarsbyleo site,

The prices were as follows

L-1000 w/maple or ebony - $740/$760
L-2000 w/maple or ebony - $897/$918
SB-1/SB-2 - $419/$469
 
A question for those who own both an L2000 and an L2500:
Is there a tonal difference between them? For instance, I can imagine the fact that the L2500-pickups have 10 polepieces closer together, instead of 8, having an impact on the tone.

I ask, because I used to own a late 90's L2000, wich I sold for some reason. In 2018 I ordered a new L2500, and it seems to me that it sounds a little different; slightly harsher in the upper mids. This is more pronounced in active mode, wich is another difference; I remember the preamp having a smaller impact on the tone.

Of course, these differences can be ascribed to bad memory, or other differences in gear. I don't know for sure though, so I'm asking you.
Thanks!

Someone else can corroborate but I think there are a few factors you probably aren't imagining. The preamp has rev'd since the 90s version. Part if that may be a shift in the resonant frequency of the pickups via a resistor change. Another thing is that your L2000 may have had single coil with bass boost mode instead of straight series which is what current models have.
 
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@RocketMusic I think he is referring to the Fullerton Deluxe versions, not 750 Series.


OK, Strike one! :)

Here are the available Fullerton Deluxe L-2500's:
Blue Metal Flake / Pine / Maple: $2049.99
Jet Black / Pine / Chechen: $1899.99

This model was originally introduced with different colors/woods, but it looks like G&L has transitioned to the above chocies. Just for historical purposes, here's what they used to offer. And if you would prefer one of these and are looking to buy, let me know and I can check availability with G&L. Maybe they still have some?

Pharaoh Gold / Basswood / Chechen: $1799.99
Old School Tobacco Burst / Okoume / Chechen: $1899.99
Lake Placid Blue / Basswood / Chechen: $1799.99
Natural Gloss / Ash / Maple: $1899.99
 
Someone else can corroborate but I think there are a few factors you probably aren't imagining. The preamp has rev'd since the 90s version. Part if that may be a shift in the resonant frequency of the pickups via a resistor change. Another thing is that your L2000 may have had single coil with bass boost mode instead of straight series which is what current models have.
Thanks, I haven't taken in account that my basses came from different eras. That could be part of the difference, of course. However, I feel the difference is there in passive mode, and my late 90's L2000 definitely had series, and no single coil with bass boost setting.
I still would be grateful if people could chime in who can directly compare the tone of an L2000 with that of an L2500. Could it be those pickups just differ slightly? And what would that mean for the new 750 pickups?
 
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Sorry guys, I was traveling….
The really dark-tinted headstock is nicotine. But it wasn't sticky and really didn't smell too bad when I got it about 15+ years ago. Now it's got a faint smoky smell but nothing offensive. It probably has the meatiest tone of any G&L I've ever owned, but it's just a hair under 10 lbs.
That cherryburst one, however WAS gooey. Smelled like weed. Seemed like it had been on a stand in the corner of the room for two decades. That one I literally stripped it all down to the screws and cleaned that stuff off.

…could be nicotine / tobacco tar. Does it have a distinctive smoky odor?

Guessing thats probably the ol nicotene + UV tint. I had an L1000 like that and while it looked cool, mine was gross.

Couldn't tell ya, they're not mine.
Those belong to @dukeplaysbass
 
Thanks, I haven't taken in account that my basses came from different eras. That could be part of the difference, of course. However, I feel the difference is there in passive mode, and my late 90's L2000 definitely had series, and no single coil with bass boost setting.
I still would be grateful if people could chime in who can directly compare the tone of an L2000 with that of an L2500. Could it be those pickups just differ slightly? And what would that mean for the new 750 pickups?
I had a Tribute L2000 and a Tribute L2500 at the same time, and the tones did vary slightly. I could get the same tone, but I had to tweak the EQ slightly differently on each one to do so. My guess is that, if you listen closely, even basses of the same model are going to sound a little different. In other words, probably no two L2000s sound exactly the same, nor do any two L2500s. There are so many subtle differences in instruments. What are the tone woods? Even if they're the same, the grains are certainly different. How are they finished? What is the fretboard material? Even the amount of sleep the person operating the pickup-winding-machine got last night might affect it. Certainly the length of the magnets in the pickups could affect it. Only your ear can tell you if you like that effect. It's one of the problems we face these days with buying an instrument online and never getting to hear it until we own it. But even in a store, we can't play an instrument through our own equipment. So I think that every L-series bass sounds the same, only different...a little.