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G&L Club Part 7

If you hit a bass hard enough to ding it, I don't think the wood underneath the finish is going to help or hurt ya. Dings is dings.

Just my opinion, of course.

My Alder JB5 agrees.

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PSA: Toddlers and music stands near guitar stands do not mix. Needless to say the music stands are now weighted down to keep another incident from occurring.
 
I've noticed that the comments about Empress's dentability (or the likelihood of the screws literally falling out of it) never seem to come from people who actually own basses made from it.

In my experience with an empress Comanche guitar, the pickguard screw holes are easy to strip, so when I got an empress JB-5 (used, since sold) I used a very light touch and didn't have this problem. I've never had any issue with dings and both feel solid overall, especially the Comanche which I think is relatively heavy for empress, but is still noticeably lighter than my alder Strat.
 
G&L folks...specifically SB-2 owners,

I recently bought a used SB-2 and the previous owner modified the electronics to include a master volume, tone control, and three-way pickup selector. After one gig, I can tell that this bass it not well served by the pickup switch. I just ordered a new pickguard from Chandler and my plan is to restore the bass to the original two volume/no tone control circuit. I've been reading some old posts about the SB-2 and opinion seems to be divided on whether adding a tone control is necessary. I'd like to hear from other SB-2 owners and get some opinions on what you would do if this was your bass:

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- Steve

We don't need no tone control!
(SB-2 owner, 1999, in Clear Blue, maple fingerboard, now strung with Chromes).

You're right, Steve, there are so many and many tones that can be achieved by only blending the two volume knobs that replacing this with a pick-up switch is almost an offense to Leo's memory.
 
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We don't need no tone control!
(SB-2 owner, 1999, maple fingerboard, strung with Chromes)
You're right, Steve, there are so many and many tones that can be achieved by only blending the two volume knobs that replacing this with a pick-up switch is almost an offense to Leo's memory.

Thanks for the reply. I'm planning on restoring the original circuit and giving that some time. If I decide I need a tone control, I'll find a way to accomplish this using stacked pots like my Jazz Bass reissue. This SB-2 already routed for an extra knob, but that just doesn't look right to me.

- Steve
 
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G&L folks...specifically SB-2 owners,

I recently bought a used SB-2 and the previous owner modified the electronics to include a master volume, tone control, and three-way pickup selector. After one gig, I can tell that this bass it not well served by the pickup switch. I just ordered a new pickguard from Chandler and my plan is to restore the bass to the original two volume/no tone control circuit. I've been reading some old posts about the SB-2 and opinion seems to be divided on whether adding a tone control is necessary. I'd like to hear from other SB-2 owners and get some opinions on what you would do if this was your bass:

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- Steve

Given the holes already made on your pickguard, I would opt for the simpler V/V/T configuration like on a Jazz Bass, that Leo considered an improvement over the initial stacked pots configuration.
I too had owned an AVRI 62 Jazz, now sold, and have always found those stacked knobs cumbersome to manage.
 
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That looks like the bass on the website where I purchased my new pickguard: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
- Steve

Yes it's mine. I ordered a new pickguard as the one on the bass was broken near the jack. The picture is old and shows an instruction sticker still on the then new pickguard. The hardware gold color is an impression due to the lighting conditions.
 
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My Alder JB5 agrees.

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PSA: Toddlers and music stands near guitar stands do not mix. Needless to say the music stands are now weighted down to keep another incident from occurring.
I have a guitar player friend who fixes dings like that on his guitars all the time. He could explain to you how to do it. If you're interested, PM me with some way to contact you (He's not on TB) and I'll ask him to get in touch. I've never tried it myself because I have THE GIFT...THE GIFT of making things worse instead of better!
 
I have a guitar player friend who fixes dings like that on his guitars all the time. He could explain to you how to do it. If you're interested, PM me with some way to contact you (He's not on TB) and I'll ask him to get in touch. I've never tried it myself because I have THE GIFT...THE GIFT of making things worse instead of better!

I appreciate it, but I already did a good enough patch job. Followed some instructions from Stew Mac on filling it with black colored glue. Results were not perfect, but considering it was my first time doing it I am happy enough with how it turned out. I was mostly worried about not having bare wood exposed and not letting the chip expand. I accomplished both of those things with the glue patch job. Again, definitely appreciate the offer.
 
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G&L folks...specifically SB-2 owners,

I recently bought a used SB-2 and the previous owner modified the electronics to include a master volume, tone control, and three-way pickup selector. After one gig, I can tell that this bass it not well served by the pickup switch. I just ordered a new pickguard from Chandler and my plan is to restore the bass to the original two volume/no tone control circuit. I've been reading some old posts about the SB-2 and opinion seems to be divided on whether adding a tone control is necessary. I'd like to hear from other SB-2 owners and get some opinions on what you would do if this was your bass:

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- Steve


I did add a tone control and find it gives even more sounds to this great bass. If you want dark thump, turning off the bridge pickup might be less than you want. If tone controls weren't useful, no basses would have them. My opinion anyway.

I also dislike two volume controls, so I replaced mine with a blend control with a center detente. Now it's quick and easy to dial in the sound I want just by going to the detent position and adjusting from there. And the master volume serves the purpose of *gasp* controlling the volume and not the tone.
 
I'd like to hear from other SB-2 owners and get some opinions on what you would do if this was your bass:

I had the option of with or without tone control when I ordered my SB-2. I've never compared between an SB-2 with or without, but am glad I ordered the bass with it. I have no problem dialing in the sounds I like.

Regarding yours, if was mine... beautiful bass, btw! Whichever choice I would make, I would definitely get rid of the pot closest to the neck pickup. That's my comfort zone, playing. The new pickguard will take care of that... just keep in mind pot placement, for you.
 
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Regarding yours, if was mine... beautiful bass, btw! Whichever choice I would make, I would definitely get rid of the pot closest to the neck pickup. That's my comfort zone, playing. The new pickguard will take care of that... just keep in mind pot placement, for you.

Thanks! It is a great looking color.

That extra knob will definitely not be part of the final equation no matter what I decide. Thankfully, the ugly route for the extra pot is hidden by the pickguard.

- Steve
 
I did add a tone control and find it gives even more sounds to this great bass. If you want dark thump, turning off the bridge pickup might be less than you want.

I also dislike two volume controls, so I replaced mine with a blend control

Mr. Wealthy Wag: Someday, I WILL have an SB-2, but I continue to waffle on the tone knob option. (Some say the tone knob -- typically a simple treble-cut -- affects the available tones simply by being wired into the circuit.) I want dark thump, so your comments caught my eye.

Your comments described 2 changes from stock: Adding a tone pot, and adding a blend control. Have you personally observed the dark thump without the addition of the blend control? Or was your observation from a bass with both changes? Please clarify, if you would be so kind.

(The devil is in the details, yes?) Thanx so much for sharing!