Oh, I agree. I was just talking about making the lightest five string possible... I have three G&L bass bridges laying around, awaiting various projects.
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excuse my ignorance, but if the body is of very light wood, isn't there a greater potential for neck dive, as the neck weight would be less balanced by the body weight?
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probably.
I can deal with a wider suede back strap way more readily than a 10lb bass.
I have a 7.5lb 5 string active JJ that does just fine, but, it does have hipshot ultralight tuners
I can deal with a wider suede back strap way more readily than a 10lb bass.
I have a 7.5lb 5 string active JJ that does just fine, but, it does have hipshot ultralight tuners
Oh man. Close call. I just saw the "1500" and "Empress wood" and quickly thought there was a link to an Empress wood L1.5k. That's my recent GAS attack. Well, a light L1500, that is.
PHEW! Glad that that link is not to a light L1500. That would be bad. Very, very bad.
Well don't get too excited about that claimed weight. That's the bassplace in AZ, right? I'd be very surprised if they aren't exaggerating a wee bit.
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Update! I'm on my second week of owning my SB1. Every time I play it I can't get over how great it sound's. Plays so nice after my set up.
The weight is in G&L's list of pieces available to dealers. Please see below their leftover empress wood basses (posted a week ago by Greg of Rocket Music here: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/latest-g-l-arrivals.1035347/page-3 post #52):
JB 4 STRING 3 TONE SUNBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD-TORT-PH 8.2 1 CLF072088
JB 4 STRING OLD SCHOOL TOBACCO SUNBRST RW-EMPRESS WOOD-CREME 8.0 1 CLF072080
JB 4 STRING TOBACCO SUNBRST RW EMPRESS WOOD-CREME 8 1 CLF072078
L2000 BLACKBURST RW 1/4 SAWN- EMPRESS WOOD-PH 7.5 1 CLF072197
L2000 TOBACCO SUNBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD-PH-LTGN-1/4 SAWN 7.4 1 CLF072090
MJ-4 GREENBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD 7.2 1 CLF072095
MJ-4 REDBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD_VTGN 7.3 1 CLF072101
M2000 BLUEBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD 7.5 1 CLF072018
M2000 CHERRYBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD 7.6 1 CLF072071
M2500 BLACKBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD 8.3 1 CLF072165
LB100 WHISKEY MP EMPRESS WOOD-TORT-VTSN-BLK COVER 7.5 1 CLF072012
A half pound difference between a MJ-4 and a MJ-5 (the Bass Place one), is that odd ? I bought a brand new US M-2500 from The Bass Place 2 years ago, and there are only nice chaps there, in addition to offering unbeatable prices.
That LB-100 with tort is torturing me...
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The weight is in G&L's list of pieces available to dealers. Please see below their leftover empress wood basses (posted a week ago by Greg of Rocket Music here: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/latest-g-l-arrivals.1035347/page-3 post #52):
JB 4 STRING 3 TONE SUNBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD-TORT-PH 8.2 1 CLF072088
JB 4 STRING OLD SCHOOL TOBACCO SUNBRST RW-EMPRESS WOOD-CREME 8.0 1 CLF072080
JB 4 STRING TOBACCO SUNBRST RW EMPRESS WOOD-CREME 8 1 CLF072078
L2000 BLACKBURST RW 1/4 SAWN- EMPRESS WOOD-PH 7.5 1 CLF072197
L2000 TOBACCO SUNBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD-PH-LTGN-1/4 SAWN 7.4 1 CLF072090
MJ-4 GREENBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD 7.2 1 CLF072095
MJ-4 REDBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD_VTGN 7.3 1 CLF072101
M2000 BLUEBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD 7.5 1 CLF072018
M2000 CHERRYBURST MP EMPRESS WOOD 7.6 1 CLF072071
M2500 BLACKBURST RW EMPRESS WOOD 8.3 1 CLF072165
LB100 WHISKEY MP EMPRESS WOOD-TORT-VTSN-BLK COVER 7.5 1 CLF072012
A half pound difference between a MJ-4 and a MJ-5 (the Bass Place one), is that odd ? I bought a brand new US M-2500 from The Bass Place 2 years ago, and there are only nice chaps there, in addition to offering unbeatable prices.
That LB-100 with tort is torturing me...
Not talking about Rocket, talking about the MJ5 at the bassplace, which is not on the list you posted. Serial # CLF072122.
If the claimed weight was from G&L or Rocket I'd believe it. But not from bassplace. I bought my brand new MJ4 from them. They touted it as "weighing an incredible 8.2 lbs!" In reality the bass weighs exactly 8.75 lbs on my very accurate shipping scale. Still a good enough weight for my tastes, but not what they claimed.
In addition, the bass turns out to have a finish flaw, which they made no mention of in the ebay listing description, nor was it mentioned when I spoke with them on the phone prior to buying the bass. The paint on half of the headstock does not fully cover the primer. Probably a factory second or "blem". I suspect that's why they insisted that we do the deal outside of ebay. No chance for potential feedback problems that way.
They also pulled a fast one on me a decade ago on a Genz combo.
What I'm saying is that outfit specializes in blems, seconds, show demos, etc., but are not always up front about it. Caveat emptor.
Yep, my fave board wood. And it sits nicely on a quartersawn #7 neck. Hard to believe it's 13 years old. Thanks for the sweet deal on a minty 15!
Not talking about Rocket, talking about the MJ5 at the bassplace, which is not on the list you posted. Serial # CLF072122.
If the claimed weight was from G&L or Rocket I'd believe it. But not from bassplace. I bought my brand new MJ4 from them. They touted it as "weighing an incredible 8.2 lbs!" In reality the bass weighs exactly 8.75 lbs on my very accurate shipping scale. Still a good enough weight for my tastes, but not what they claimed.
In addition, the bass turns out to have a finish flaw, which they made no mention of in the ebay listing description, nor was it mentioned when I spoke with them on the phone prior to buying the bass. The paint on half of the headstock does not fully cover the primer. Probably a factory second or "blem". I suspect that's why they insisted that we do the deal outside of ebay. No chance for potential feedback problems that way.
They also pulled a fast one on me a decade ago on a Genz combo.
What I'm saying is that outfit specializes in blems, seconds, show demos, etc., but are not always up front about it. Caveat emptor.
I understand your case. EBay is one thing, but can't you claim G&L's warranty for your MJ-4 (brand new means it was first hand)?
The US M-2500 I bought from them through ebay was flawless, brand new (I believe), and at under a grand. I re-sold it after 2 years.
No, I bought it brand new, with full warranty, which I registered with G&L.
Just because an item is sold on ebay doesn't preclude it from being brand new with warranty. Don't know where you got that notion.
So, what was the outcome with G&L, did you send it back to them or to the bass place to fix the issue?
There is no outcome, it's a spectacular bass despite the finish flaw. No way am I sending it back to G&L to wait months. Nor do I wish to deal any further with bassplace, as I expect they'd fob me off again like they did with the Genz amp. If that were to happen I'd be so aggravated that I'd have to dump the bass. As it stands, I can live with it. I also got it for under a grand, so that takes away some of the sting.
Here's the bass, check out the great flamage on the quartersawn neck.
Here is the flawed headstock paint. Lower half, and near the truss access port. Needed another coat of paint.
Hmm....just how very, very badly do you want one?
Not bad enough to drain my bank account and endure the wrath of....The Wife!! **SHUDDER** I've done enough damage for a while.
I'll have to keep saving my pennies. But that is a damn fine looking bass right there. I bet that board/electronics combo is sa-WEEET!!
Fwiw- I bought a JB from Grapevine Guitar and it had the very same issue on the painted headstock. Also the neck was really rough on the back like the forgot to sand it before they applied the oil. It wast insanely heavy so I sent it back (the story of my life).......Here's the bass, check out
Here is the flawed headstock paint. Lower half, and near the truss access port. Needed another coat of paint.
Only done 3 or 4 transactions with The Bass Place over the last 20 years but they've always done right by me.
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Not talking about Rocket, talking about the MJ5 at the bassplace, which is not on the list you posted. Serial # CLF072122.
If the claimed weight was from G&L or Rocket I'd believe it. But not from bassplace. I bought my brand new MJ4 from them. They touted it as "weighing an incredible 8.2 lbs!" In reality the bass weighs exactly 8.75 lbs on my very accurate shipping scale. Still a good enough weight for my tastes, but not what they claimed.
In addition, the bass turns out to have a finish flaw, which they made no mention of in the ebay listing description, nor was it mentioned when I spoke with them on the phone prior to buying the bass. The paint on half of the headstock does not fully cover the primer. Probably a factory second or "blem". I suspect that's why they insisted that we do the deal outside of ebay. No chance for potential feedback problems that way.
They also pulled a fast one on me a decade ago on a Genz combo.
What I'm saying is that outfit specializes in blems, seconds, show demos, etc., but are not always up front about it. Caveat emptor.
This is well known about those guys, they had an issue with fender flame maple special editions being blems advertised as new.
Checked out the M-2000 today, still there, and it's mint.
Red burst with a maple board.
didn't have my phone on me or I would have got you some pics.
It plays really nice too. Straight neck, low action.
There is no outcome, it's a spectacular bass despite the finish flaw. No way am I sending it back to G&L to wait months. Nor do I wish to deal any further with bassplace, as I expect they'd fob me off again like they did with the Genz amp. If that were to happen I'd be so aggravated that I'd have to dump the bass. As it stands, I can live with it. I also got it for under a grand, so that takes away some of the sting.
Here's the bass, check out the great flamage on the quartersawn neck.
Still a fantastic looking bass. I have a JB with similar issues. Paint missing around the truss access hole, some paint not neat enough on the edge.
The approach to a painted headstock is being missed by G&L. Ive had other instruments with matching headstocks that looked much neater. What helps blend in the paint lines is a gloss finish of the headstock front to back. My musciman in black sparkle was finished like that with a line in the back of the neck right around the area where the nut is.
I hope the MJ that I have coming will be nice and neat.
Here is the flawed headstock paint. Lower half, and near the truss access port. Needed another coat of paint.
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