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Gaining weight?

#21
don't do anything... if you wanna be fit go running for 30 mins or cycling for an hour to build a strong heart... you're only 14, from now 'til 22 or so you're hormones will dictate how you're body will be naturally so help them out.

You're a bass player so I guess you wanna be in a band... well I'm sure I'm gonna p*ss people off here but stay thin and fit, if you're a good player you'll get into more bands... skinny bass players are the deal...

Me, myself, I'm older now and 10 pounds heavier than I'd like to be, the reality is when I wanted to be in bands in my younger years you had to look good too... and for me I always had to watch my weight like crazy... still do...
 
#22
You don't need to worry about being a muscle man at your age. You don't want to mess with your body, not when it's going through so many changes. I'm 5 feet and 12"s tall and I weigh 14.2 stone (90 kilos) though when I was 14 I think I was about 70 kilos.
 
#23
I'm no doctor, but telling a 14 year old to do deadlifts and squats is offically a Bad Idea. Honestly, if he can't find the answer to his original question, who's going to show him the proper forms for half of these exercises, particularly squats and deadlifts which can seriously mess you up if you don't know the proper form?

PS: As a general critique, that routine's not bad, but it's seriously lacking in abdominal workouts. Throw in a couple of hanging leg raises, twist when you do the crunches (preferably on a slanted bench) and something really hard on the obliques. A friend showed me a great exercise for that (actually, the guy who gained 60lbs of muscle) but it's incredibly hard to describe without physically being there and I don't know the name of it. I know you say it's a "weight gain" routine, but he's still going to look mighty funky with huge arms and legs with nothing but the top half of an 8 pack.
 
#24
Aaron Saunders said:
I'm no doctor, but telling a 14 year old to do deadlifts and squats is offically a Bad Idea. Honestly, if he can't find the answer to his original question, who's going to show him the proper forms for half of these exercises, particularly squats and deadlifts which can seriously mess you up if you don't know the proper form?
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That's why I said, DO THEM PROPERLY.

Squats and deadlifts have hazards ONLY when you have no idea what the hell you're doing. I injured my knee that way and I was 18.

Also, don't let your ego get ahead of you. Do only a safe amount of weight. Push yourself, BUT KNOW YOUR LIMITS.

PS: As a general critique, that routine's not bad, but it's seriously lacking in abdominal workouts. Throw in a couple of hanging leg raises, twist when you do the crunches (preferably on a slanted bench) and something really hard on the obliques. A friend showed me a great exercise for that (actually, the guy who gained 60lbs of muscle) but it's incredibly hard to describe without physically being there and I don't know the name of it. I know you say it's a "weight gain" routine, but he's still going to look mighty funky with huge arms and legs with nothing but the top half of an 8 pack.
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Hardly. Squats, Deadlifts, and overhead presses work the hell out of your core. How often do you actually have to crunch up from the floor in day to day life? Probably once to get out of bed. And even then you just kind of roll out of bed and land on your feet.

Whereas having to pick something up or lift it above your head is more likely to happen.

More importantly, though, your knowledge of the core is utter crap. You don't get an "upper half" of your abs. It's all one giant muscle. It all grows at the same rate. Second, you don't get "half" of an "8-pack". It ONLY depends on your body fat %. You can do 100000000000000^9999999 crunches every day and it won't help a damn. Any sort of pack you get, you get it in the kitchen, not in the gym.
 
#25
At your age you really don't need to be working out to put on muscle mass. You'll find it VERY difficult to bulk up until you've reached the later stages of puberty. Until then, play some video games and enjoy the ride - that's what I did.
 
#26
You can lay the groundwork for a buff and healthy body right now by not filling your arteries with cholesterol and fat. Eat a healthy diet by checking out websites like Invalid Link Removed.

You should be able to get plenty of the physical exercise you need at school in P.E.

-Mike
 
#28
who pooped in your poop loops dude? why did you need to blast someone with a different viewpoint than your own?

you had some valid points, and totally lost any credibility with that roid rage delivery. you can trust the fact that plenty of folks on here have more knowledge and experience.

for what it's worth, you're absolutely correct that a program based on solid foundational movements covers the entire trunk and core strength requirements. endurance and balanced firing of the core stabilization muscles are the most often overlooked aspects of a training program, and are not covered thoroughly with squats/deadlifts/powercleans/etc. side crunches etc. get closer and they still fall short. i see little value with hanging knee raises and actually encounter more problems resulting from the activity than any good that could come from it.

again, not really sure what the OP was hoping to get from this thread and why he feels he should gain weight, i'd venture a guess a lot of this is far from what he wanted and could very easily overwhelm a teenager wanting to simply know how to gain some weight.
 
#31
Scott Zoltok said:
No weights, too young. muscles aren't developed enough yet. Start in 2 years. In the meantime, just stay healthy by leading an active lifestyle and eating healthy. Not hard.
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What are the dangers of starting to lift weights at the age of 14?

This ought to be good. I'm expecting "cataracts, bone cancer, mental retardation, diarrhea, suicidal tendencies, complete immune system failure, horrible rash, and hearing loss."

How close was I?
 
#32
Poop-Loops said:
Because it's not a view point, it's a fact.
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totally missed the point there.

there's a lot of information being presented as fact here. some of it i find agreeable, some of it seems to be from sheer ignorance.

truth is, there is little information passed around in this thread that is backed by solid research. a lot of the things posted have been studied or theorized on, and there's a lot of inconclusiveness in those studies even when those theories make complete sense.

what i do see is some information that applied by inexperienced people can lead to long standing injuries, chronic pain and expensive treatments in the future.

that being said, would you care to divulge the source of your facts? (you might not realize some things you profess as fact are sketchy at best) anyway, i'd hope the sources are better than muscle and fitness, flex, muscular development, testosterone, powermag, powerlifting usa, heavy duty, 'my own experience', or the guys at the gym told me so.

man, not trying to be a smartass here. these forums are no place for self professing experts to spread misinformation and spout off at others. this blind arrogance attitude is certainly something i don't miss about training.
 
#33
ihateusernames said:
that being said, would you care to divulge the source of your facts? (you might not realize some things you profess as fact are sketchy at best) anyway, i'd hope the sources are better than muscle and fitness, flex, muscular development, testosterone, powermag, powerlifting usa, heavy duty, 'my own experience', or the guys at the gym told me so.
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So scientific journals, you say?

First let me just point you to Google.

http://www.google.com/search?client...l_s&hl=en&q=spot+reduction&btnG=Google+Search

There. Not what you asked, but a good starting point.

Second, let me point you to the human anatomy.

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http://www.drstandley.com/images/muscular.bmp
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/body/factfiles/muscle_anatomy.shtml

Notice how it's only 1 muscle? How there is no "upper inner lefter ab"?

Oh look, a page with references. From a guy with a Master's in health science, no less.

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What's this? A government website with a medical journal? Oh snap, Poop Loops hit the jack pot! (scroll down to the 3rd to last page)

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#34
ummm, would you really expect that's what i was getting at???

did you write a school paper recently or just have way too much energy and need to show off some mad web search skills.

leaving this alone before the thread gets locked.....g'nite
 
#35
look up a boxing/kickboxig school. I started before 14, but it made me a strong guy. my pecs,lats,shouldrers,abs were all nicely shaped despite it being mainly a cardio sport And if you can get those regions to shape a little better you'll look bigger. I've always had a "thick" build though.
 
#36
If you don't like getting hit, you could also try grappling. I'd be more weary of boxing/kickboxing at a young age vs lifting, although these days amateur boxers and kickboxers have very good safety precautions and regulations, so it's really not that dangerous.

Judo, wrestling, and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu will give you a work out, too. Although BJJ tends to be expensive, and you probably get free wrestling at school, so go with that.

ihateusernames: I did what you told me to do. I'm not a woman, I can't figure out what someone meant, I only know what someone said.
 
#37
Haha, I did Machado Brazilian Ju Jitsu, a ground based grappling system for 3 years after a few years of standup strike based systems.

I copped more unwanted hits and hurts from elbows, knees, fingers, shins, ankles, takedowns and submissions than I ever got in a strike/block format martial art :D

Half were my fault for leaving the space open or choosing the wrong tactic (just like they would be in a striking system) but the point remains grapplers I rolled with got struck just as much if not more than strikers at the same clubs did and usually, it was worse becasue the grappling was more realistic and intensive than staged sparring.

If you want to get hit less, where possible avoid situations where you might get hit at all ;)

On topic, When I needed to gain weight for tournments, I did a few things the doctor said may or may not compromise my health:

- Eat a McDonalds hash bown and muffin for brekky 3-4 times a week.
- Skip lunch
- Eat carbs an hour before bed.
- Reduce training
- THINK of gaining weight.

I did these things to make tournament weights to the half kilo or pound, with the intention of losing it again not converting it into mass.

I added 10kg after 4 months of not training and good living :D
 
#38
Depth_Charge said:
Haha, I did Machado Brazilian Ju Jitsu, a ground based grappling system for 3 years after a few years of standup strike based systems.

I copped more unwanted hits and hurts from elbows, knees, fingers, shins, ankles, takedowns and submissions than I ever got in a strike/block format martial art :D
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True. :p

I got more black eyes in BJJ than I did in TKD or Kung Fu. More injuries in general... but that comes with the territory. :)

On topic, When I needed to gain weight for tournments, I did a few things the doctor said may or may not compromise my health:

- Eat a McDonalds hash bown and muffin for brekky 3-4 times a week.
- Skip lunch
- Eat carbs an hour before bed.
- Reduce training
- THINK of gaining weight.

I did these things to make tournament weights to the half kilo or pound, with the intention of losing it again not converting it into mass.

I added 10kg after 4 months of not training and good living :D
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That will certainly work, but it's not good weight by any stretch. Skipping a meal is always bad, whether you want to gain or lose weight, so is McDonald's.

Reducing training should only be done like the last week before the tournament, since you won't want to risk injury or overtraining anyway.

But in your case it was just temporary anyway, whereas he wants to keep this weight, so he'll need a different solution.
 
#39
Depth_Charge said:
- Eat a McDonalds hash bown and muffin for brekky 3-4 times a week.
- Skip lunch
- Eat carbs an hour before bed.
- Reduce training
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This will definitely add pounds to your frame, but it will also add unhealthy fat to your body and begin causing damage to your body. Just my opinion, not supported by any scientific facts. :D

-Mike
 

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