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Geddy Lee Sansamp Pedal!

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Clemouze said:
Well it is a drop of subby low mainly.
Since I use this pedal as a preamp I can't find it usable with the tight off, way too much subs
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If i have the tight switch off, i set the mix all the way to drive and even cut a tiny bit of bass to kep things under control.
 
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Thanks Clemouze and Iv@n for your response.
I realised when my power supply (T-Rex Fuel Tank) is switched on, the YYZ pedal is switched on automatically even though it was already switched off together with the power supply earlier. Is this intented?
 
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IvanBassist said:
If i have the tight switch off, i set the mix all the way to drive and even cut a tiny bit of bass to kep things under control.
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Yes, this. The tight switch cuts lows from the drive side. So if you don’t have it engaged and you turn up lows on the drive side, that combined with the deep channel can get subby and out of hand in a hurry.
 
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I sat down again after a while away from it to see what's what. I flattened my amp eq, then compared it with the sample settings in the manual.
  1. Geddy Lee: No. Too much drive, too little bottom end.
  2. YYZ Jazz bass: No. Just not...doing enough to change the sound. It isn't Geddying.
  3. Roundabout: Yes! (No pun intended.) Now there's some settings I could pretty much keep on full time. At real volume, I might have to dial in some additional bump in the lows or low-mids, but this is a good one. It's scooping the mids and adding just the right amount of sustain, especially to the higher notes.
  4. Rickenbacker: Yes. It's almost as good as the Roundabout. I could live with it and I like it compared to the bypassed sound.
  5. Jack Bruce: No. What is this, supposed to make me sound like a P-bass through an SVT? Not working. Not good.
  6. Tool: No. It isn't Geddying and it has too much drive.
  7. Les Claypool: No. Again, too much drive, not enough shaping.
  8. Warm Tube Studio: Meh. It's ok. Nice, even. But that's really subtle stuff. In a live situation I might as well not have it on.
  9. Bi-amped Overdrive: No. There's way too wide a divide between the Deep and the Drive sides. They aren't marrying in the middle. Unusable.
What have we learned. Well, I think the "Tight" button is an essential distinguishing feature of this pedal. You could find usable settings without it, but then again you could use other pedals. Also, I think the Drive and the Mix balance are essential, try to keep both in the neighborhood of noon. You can do fun stuff with the EQ knobs, but with the tight switch on there's nowhere to go with the Bass knob but well past noon. The rest of it is kind of season to taste.

Note: these are all tested on my Warwick Rockbass Corvette $$ 5-string. Both pickups wide open, tone just slightly rolled off, with old Lo-Riders on. This is going through my Carvin BX1500 (flat EQ) and out my Peavey Headliner 112 cab with tweeter on. Also, I played finger style, no pick. I wasn't slapping, either. But when I do slap, I usually engage a scooped graphic EQ on the amp.

Can't wait to try these on my 98 Jazz bass that's arriving on Tuesday!
 
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Of note: The previous settings I posted in this thread are not as good as the Roundabout above. Those old settings are as follows:

Master: a little above unity gain
Low: noon
High: a hair past noon
Drive: a hair before noon
Mix: a hair before noon
Mid: totally dimed
Tight: on

I think what I've learned is that the best way to bring back the oomph is to dial up the bass knob.
 
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morse said:
Is it default for the YYZ pedal to be switched on automatically when using power supply outlet (e.g. Voodoo Lab, BBE, TRex) even though it was already switched off when last used? Many thanks if someone can share.
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No, it's off next time you turn your board on. Even if it had been on when you powered the board down before.
 
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Thanks scottfeldstein. I thought this should be the case. That means there is a problem with my pedal. Actually this is a 2nd one. The first one I got was defective too. The power switch was not functioning as intended. It does not work sometimes. So I brought it back to exchange. But this 2nd one has a different problem! Must say not good quality control from manufacturer. And the Singapore dealer (the only dealer here) had brought in only 2 units! So, I don't know how they will resolve this.
 
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I wrote to Tech 21 and their response was swift. Brilliant customer service. They advised it's not a defect. In the earlier production runs, the pedals were randomly made to default to "On" or "Off" when the power is turned on. The pedal uses a momentary contact switch, not a latching-type (must say I do not understand this technical issue) it does not matter if it was turned off after use. So, it is all good.
 
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Well my YYZ pedal arrived today and boy does it sound great, I have just velcroed it to my wall mounted pedalboard and I am now feeling slightly spoilt for choice with my other Tech21 gear........Happy Days!

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Briton said:
Well my YYZ pedal arrived today and boy does it sound great, I have just velcroed it to my wall mounted pedalboard and I am now feeling slightly spoilt for choice with my other Tech21 gear........Happy Days!

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Nice. But how do you get your feet all of the way up there to turn them on and off? You must be very bendy.
 
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morse said:
I wrote to Tech 21 and their response was swift. Brilliant customer service. They advised it's not a defect. In the earlier production runs, the pedals were randomly made to default to "On" or "Off" when the power is turned on. The pedal uses a momentary contact switch, not a latching-type (must say I do not understand this technical issue) it does not matter if it was turned off after use. So, it is all good.
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand this? It's "not a defect" but sure sounds like one if pedals were "randomly" defaulting to on or off. That's a design choice?
 
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scottfeldstein said:
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this? It's "not a defect" but sure sounds like one if pedals were "randomly" defaulting to on or off. That's a design choice?
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It's quite possible to design a logic circuit that may power on in a random 0 or 1 state. Perhaps by omission. Even in this case, some units may always power up in one or the other state.

It's also possible to insure a logic circuit powers up in a given state.

It simply sounds as if Tech 21 went from the first case to the second case. It was likely a very simple change.

- John
 
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scottfeldstein said:
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this? It's "not a defect" but sure sounds like one if pedals were "randomly" defaulting to on or off. That's a design choice?
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Your pedal will consistently do one or the other and is therefore not defective. Random apparently referred to there being two ways to set it up during assembly and they did not have a set policy during the first runs. This is how I understood it but there was an alternative explanation posted above while I typed. I might have misunderstood.

EDIT: Forgot to add, mine is always off when I power up
 

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