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Genz-Benz Shuttle Megathread
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Not to mention saving 23 pounds!
And have you tried the STL10t extension cab with the combo? Gives you the full 300 watts, and total weight is 33 pounds. Sounds great.
Cheers
OUr local dealer doesn't have the 10" extension in stock, but if I found I needed more that's what I'd get. A 300 watt 2x10 would be plenty for me - especially the way the GB stuff puts out.
I can get by without the tube pre. If I really need it I can get something to put in fromt of the amp.
I initially bought the 8" combo. It's very impressive for a little 13 pound thing! I ended up taking it back, as I described earlier in this thread. Basically for two reasons, 5 strings and drummers. I had a gig materialize that involves me playing a lot more 5 string (I had been primarily playing upright and fretless 4 string) with a loud electric blues band. Also, the main band I play upright with, Scotch Hollow, is adding drums.
The 8" combo is a fine little thing. I do find that the 10" is stronger and deeper. It moves just enough more air to be just more useable, to me. Now, if I only played 4 string and upright, or if I wanted an awesome tiny practice / coffeeshop rig, the 8" is a strong contender. I just found that, for my uses, the 10" is just a bit better, and adding the matching extension makes it a little monster.
It weighs 5 pounds more, and cost me $100 more ... both well worth it, imho. But for others, the 8" will be just perfect.
Cheers
any soundclips or youtube vids yet? i've looked around and checked bassplayer.tv but haven't found anything yet
Thanks
I do play upright and don't play 5's and do need a real small rig. BUT it needs to be able to keep up with a drummer (not loud). I'm skeptical about a single 8" speaker doing this. I'm using a GK microbass combo now and it works for these gigs to give you an idea. What do you think?
I do play upright and don't play 5's and do need a real small rig. BUT it needs to be able to keep up with a drummer (not loud). I'm skeptical about a single 8" speaker doing this. I'm using a GK microbass combo now and it works for these gigs to give you an idea. What do you think?
If any single 8" could keep up, it would be this one. It needs to stay on or near the floor to get coupling, or it sounds thinner. Same thing with the 10", but the effect isn't as pronounced. Do you have access to a dealer who has both, and has a good exchange policy? I sorta think you need to hear / try both ...
Good luck
I haven't compared them, but get the 10" and then you won't have to think about it any more. I'm getting a 3.0-10T. It is plenty loud for all my needs. If I need more, I'll get a 10" extension.
you know, the cool thing about modern PA systems is that most can really produce a band's full sound no matter what you're using on stage.
That's one reason I picked up the Shuttle 6.0 and using it with my NEOX 212t. Plenty for anything I'll need it for and if I need more, I'll pump it through our PA.
Actually, for my 3-piece, it's probably a tad much and the Genz 2x10 is more appropriate but I love my NEOX 212 and cannot see parting with it.
I remember years ago using massive amps and cabinets because all our PA equipment just sucked and couldn't keep up. three cheers for technology.
That's one reason I picked up the Shuttle 6.0 and using it with my NEOX 212t. Plenty for anything I'll need it for and if I need more, I'll pump it through our PA.
Actually, for my 3-piece, it's probably a tad much and the Genz 2x10 is more appropriate but I love my NEOX 212 and cannot see parting with it.
I remember years ago using massive amps and cabinets because all our PA equipment just sucked and couldn't keep up. three cheers for technology.
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SWEET!!!!
no wanna share it?!?!
<edit> found them!!
Ya know, it shows nothing to be honest.
It could have been any rig really.
Nice playing, but it didn't add anything one way or the next IMO about Genz stuff.
Just nice tone and playing.
still sounded pretty good 
i would love to hear a really good, honest recording of one of those guys...i'm kinda liking the rig i've got now, but having a shuttle 6.0 and a pair or neox 112's is really appealing...at the moment, though, my rig really isn't going anywhere, so it doesn't matter that it weighs about 300 pounds
i would love to hear a really good, honest recording of one of those guys...i'm kinda liking the rig i've got now, but having a shuttle 6.0 and a pair or neox 112's is really appealing...at the moment, though, my rig really isn't going anywhere, so it doesn't matter that it weighs about 300 pounds - Nov 29, 2007
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It could have been any rig...but it wasn't. The rig is in the title. I renounced an endorsement over integrity. If I say it was what ever rig, it was what ever rig. True it is not visible tho the horn band videos the RSLed's were blatant. It may not have added anything for you but some it is a shot to hear something unavailable in their area's.
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Ya know, it shows nothing to be honest.
It could have been any rig really.
Nice playing, but it didn't add anything one way or the next IMO about Genz stuff.
Just nice tone and playing.[/QUOTE]
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Ya know, it shows nothing to be honest.
It could have been any rig really.
Nice playing, but it didn't add anything one way or the next IMO about Genz stuff.
Just nice tone and playing.[/QUOTE]
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I am sitting ina hotel room in southern Virginia wishing I had the 8 or 10 to practice through...I hate head phones
I've been through most of this thread and can't find what I need to know. I already use a LM2/Schro 1212 for gigs but I can't resist the idea of the Shuttle 3.0 1x8 as a high quality unit for mobile mini jams and taking on the road to practice during vacation, etc. My question is : At low volume for practice/living room jam with no drummer and a couple of sane 'lectric guitars can the 1x8 handle the B string without farting? Can I use at least half the 175 watt volume into the 1x8? If it holds up to these it'd be great, and on demand I could pair it with my Epi 112 for the 4 Ohm mini stack.
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Yes it will. I played the 3.0/8 in a music store and it got right loud hammering a "B" with out farting.So I know it will indeed handle a living room jam with 2 sane guitar players. It also did a wonderful job pushing the Uber410 when I checke that.
The key to good low B with the 8" is to leave it on the floor. I sat mine (before I returned it to exchange for the 10") on a stool at a rehearsal, and it lost a lot. On the floor, it gets some coupling or boundary effect or something (I'm not an engineer) and the lows are much larger. It's very impressive for an 8", and I think it would do what you're after just fine.
Good luck!
Good luck!
I used the Shuttle 3.0-10t combo without extension cab on an upright gig tonight. I posted a review over on the DB side, but thought I'd quote it here for those who don't visit "the dark side" ... 
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Well, the little thing handled the gig just fine tonight. It was a strange stage, strange PA, and a noisy room. The sound guy put me into the PA just a bit using the DI on the Shuttle. If I had a mic along with the Underwood, I would have wanted that going direct to the board, bypassing the amp. But, the DI has a pre/post EQ selector along with a mic/line level selector, so I can use that to mess with things at some point.
It was hard to tell a lot about the quality of the sound tonight. It was a loud club, not a "listening" club. But I was extremely glad I had the amp. There were virtually no monitors. A single tiny wedge, maybe an 8" or a 10" speaker, and almost no volume. We had the sound guy basically just put the guitar into it, because it couldn't handle much else. There's no way I would have been able to hear myself at all if I hadn't brought an amp. The Shuttle did a great job, and sounded as good as any amp I've ever played this bass and pickup through. Nice definition, even response across the full range. I loved it, and got good comments from my band and the audience, including some other bassists from other bands on the bill. I also got asked to play and do some studio work by a keyboardist who played a solo set there tonight.
I'm really curious now to find out what this little combo can do in a better situation, and especially once I add a mic in to the mix. But for now, I couldn't be happier. And I had a nice one-trip load in and out.
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Well, the little thing handled the gig just fine tonight. It was a strange stage, strange PA, and a noisy room. The sound guy put me into the PA just a bit using the DI on the Shuttle. If I had a mic along with the Underwood, I would have wanted that going direct to the board, bypassing the amp. But, the DI has a pre/post EQ selector along with a mic/line level selector, so I can use that to mess with things at some point.
It was hard to tell a lot about the quality of the sound tonight. It was a loud club, not a "listening" club. But I was extremely glad I had the amp. There were virtually no monitors. A single tiny wedge, maybe an 8" or a 10" speaker, and almost no volume. We had the sound guy basically just put the guitar into it, because it couldn't handle much else. There's no way I would have been able to hear myself at all if I hadn't brought an amp. The Shuttle did a great job, and sounded as good as any amp I've ever played this bass and pickup through. Nice definition, even response across the full range. I loved it, and got good comments from my band and the audience, including some other bassists from other bands on the bill. I also got asked to play and do some studio work by a keyboardist who played a solo set there tonight.
I'm really curious now to find out what this little combo can do in a better situation, and especially once I add a mic in to the mix. But for now, I couldn't be happier. And I had a nice one-trip load in and out.
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