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Genz Benz - Shuttlemax

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JOME- When you A/B'd your 900 vs the 9.2 live did you do extreme EQ settings like cutting the bass past 9pm? If I cut my mids & lows I can get the Streamliner 900 pretty damn hi-fi & without any mud. I wouldn't say I have versatility once I'm boxed into those settings but it can do it, not as good as a Shuttlemax of course.
 
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While my streamliner has been getting most of the gigs lately, I still get all giddy to play thru my Shuttlemax. I love the transparency of the Shuttlemax. It is the most transparent head I have ever owned. I also love the ability to dial in my fingerstyle tone on the tube channel and my slap tone on the FET channel. Just a great head!
 
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faulknersj said:
I love the transparency of the Shuttlemax. It is the most transparent head I have ever owned.
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I agree the 12.0 I owned was 3D Clarity at it's best.

I have not played the 9.2 but I would think it would be much warmer sounding like the 9.0.

Though the Streamliner tops all of the Genzlers for warmth.:hyper:
 
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Tunaman said:
JOME- When you A/B'd your 900 vs the 9.2 live did you do extreme EQ settings like cutting the bass past 9pm? If I cut my mids & lows I can get the Streamliner 900 pretty damn hi-fi & without any mud. I wouldn't say I have versatility once I'm boxed into those settings but it can do it, not as good as a Shuttlemax of course.
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Yeah, you know I tried all kinds of settings. I cut the bass to around 9-10 o'clk (it was too thin). I then tried to boost the bass using my on-board Bart preamp (back to boomy!). I tried quite a few combinations of mid settings and in the end the result was close to the same.
I totally loved the tone of the SL900 while in my music room. Unfortunately when I cranked it up in a gig situation everything changed though. I'm sure it was partially due to the Epi 112UL cab (which has more low end than my Berg HT112) and the very high ceilings of our church (1000 seat capacity).
To me, in a live situation, the faster more defined quick attack of the 9.2 just sound much better to my ears in the mix, both on stage and in the audience.
 
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Being a Streamliner and Shuttlemax user, I can say that the transition does take a good amount of time to get used to. It took me about 10 gigs to really understand how the Streamliners controle interast with each other and find some settings I was floored by. The Shuttlemax's controls are much more familiar and more straightforward. The Streamliner is really like an instrument...kind of like tweaking a passive Jazz bass and getting different tones using the pickup blend and a passive tone control. They are also HIGHLY interactive with each other. They are both truly phenomenal heads.
 
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Im with Joe in the fact that the Streamliner was the best sounding head in the living room by itself but as soon as I put it into the mix it clashed very badly with the 2 Mesa oversized cabs and triple rectifier tube heads,it was a really wierd harmonic overload is the only way I can describe it with either a ton of cancellation or high db boom.
With that being said I just recieved my shuttlemax 9.2 today and spending some time with it in the same living room hooked up to my GB NeoX212t it sounds best to me with both channels blended and both mids boosted a little,we will see on monday in the practice studio how well it plays with others.
I hate to admit it but the light head that has stuck with me is the Carvin BX500,it sounds terrible when a/b ed with the S9,Streamliner 900 and now the SM 9.2 but it sits so damn well in the mix its almost allways there no matter where I am on the Fret Board.
The Carvin isn't transparent by any means but it's interpertation is a really good sonic match for my needs so far and sits perfectly in the mix with out clashing.
 
#51
My GBE 1200 has been my go-to for 5 years now, and I absolutely love the quickness and relative transparency of the tone. I always thought I'd jump on a Max 9.2-type as a 1200 killer, but now that it's available I just don't feel the need... the 1200 just sounds so dang GOOD and the weight doesn't bother me :) Maybe one of these days I'll snag a 9.2.
 
#53
We'll after struggling trying to find my tone with the SL900 last week I switched back to the GB 9.2 this week and I was instantly back in tone heaven!
The head just sounds great whether I'm playing it through the Epi UL112 or the Berg HT112ER.
I guess that it just goes to show why they make more than one model bass head. :)

Not a slam to the SL series. I'm sure that I'll pickup a 600 down the road for home use and some smaller venue gigs.
I just prefer the faster attack and definition of the 9.2.
 
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KsPiNeSh said:
My GBE 1200 has been my go-to for 5 years now, and I absolutely love the quickness and relative transparency of the tone. I always thought I'd jump on a Max 9.2-type as a 1200 killer, but now that it's available I just don't feel the need... the 1200 just sounds so dang GOOD and the weight doesn't bother me :) Maybe one of these days I'll snag a 9.2.
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I have been using the GBE 1200 (and love it) for a few years now, but decided to try out a SM9.2 because of the huge weight difference...and I haven't lost anything at all! I won't be selling the GBE 1200 any time soon (it's just a bad@ss amp!), but the 9.2 is so much easier on my back, and it just simply rocks!...
Both channels are extremely flexible and "usable", with headroom to spare...I am running it through a 4-ohm Uber 410 (w/active Basses)...The FET channel is crystal clear, with very articulate high end modern tone that just kills...and the tube channel provides me that fat, warm, pillowy more classic tone that I use on much of the blues stuff, and 60's and 70's cover tunes we do.
Another thing to mention is how quiet this head runs with my EQ settings...its almost dead quiet...
 
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fishtx said:
I have been using the GBE 1200 (and love it) for a few years now, but decided to try out a SM9.2 because of the huge weight difference...and I haven't lost anything at all! I won't be selling the GBE 1200 any time soon (it's just a bad@ss amp!), but the 9.2 is so much easier on my back, and it just simply rocks!...
Both channels are extremely flexible and "usable", with headroom to spare...I am running it through a 4-ohm Uber 410 (w/active Basses)...The FET channel is crystal clear, with very articulate high end modern tone that just kills...and the tube channel provides me that fat, warm, pillowy more classic tone that I use on much of the blues stuff, and 60's and 70's cover tunes we do.
Another thing to mention is how quiet this head runs with my EQ settings...its almost dead quiet...
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Interesting. I think the thing I love the most about the 1200 is that instantaneous WALLOP, quick and solid, the instant I play, that just keeps getting stronger the more I turn it up. Do you get that same feeling? Also, how would you compare the tube channels between the 1200 and 9.2? To my ear, there hasn't ever been much difference between the FET and tube except when I dial in grit :)
 
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Total Wallup is what i did on a backline gig yesterday.. I ran the SM12 through a pair of SVT 810s... holly cow.. I ran the VOL much lower .. But had to just see what it can do if I had to.. It is quite a loud ROCK rig.. Who says the SM12 cant do Rock.? I was doing a gig with a southern rock band Point Blank.. The amp cleans up real nice to go do a casual gig later today through an Uber 115 too.. great amp....
 
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