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Genz Benz Streamliner, Part 10

#783
Thought I would post a picture about my current setup. :p

Running an Am Std Jbass with Nordstrand NJ4 pups, through EBS MultiComp into Stl900. Paired with a Musicman 212 cab, with Fame studios 2x12 inside.

It kills. The sound is very vintage like, punchy warm (gets through the mix easily), very controlled. The amount of bass is just right, the highs are soft but still crispy, mids are very big on this cab. But even if you crank the mids all the way up, it does not produce those "forced" mids, which are more of an annoyance than a good thing. You can turn it way down low, or crank it to the max, the mids always stay very nice. The same with bass control.

And as it has been said many times probably, the treble control rocks on this amp - it doesn't really work as a normal treble knob but behaves more like a passive tone control. Amazing what only the treble knob on this amp can do.

Its actually amazing just how much of the variety you get by only messing with bass mid and treble control. 3 knobs people, its all you need apparently :)


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Sparkl said:
Thought I would post a picture about my current setup. :p

Running an Am Std Jbass with Nordstrand NJ4 pups, through EBS MultiComp into Stl900. Paired with a Musicman 212 cab, with Fame studios 2x12 inside.

It kills. The sound is very vintage like, punchy warm (gets through the mix easily), very controlled. The amount of bass is just right, the highs are soft but still crispy, mids are very big on this cab. But even if you crank the mids all the way up, it does not produce those "forced" mids, which are more of an annoyance than a good thing. You can turn it way down low, or crank it to the max, the mids always stay very nice. The same with bass control.

And as it has been said many times probably, the treble control rocks on this amp - it doesn't really work as a normal treble knob but behaves more like a passive tone control. Amazing what only the treble knob on this amp can do.

Its actually amazing just how much of the variety you get by only messing with bass mid and treble control. 3 knobs people, its all you need apparently :)


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I gotta try this with the Streamliner too! I had TONS of aggression at last nights outdoor gig using the 9.2 max... I ended up just using my Tube channel all night. I'll have to dial out some high mids. I bet this SLAYS with the Streamliner judging by the 9.2max. The awesome thing about the Fender J is the natural low mid bump with the strong G string lets you cut through the mix. I NEED the 9.2max to get my EBMMs punchy at the G string
 
#786
I'm gonna have to post a shot of my current "big gig rig".
A pair of SL900's, two TC Electronic RS112 cabs under a pair of TC RS210 cabs.
Each side is 4Ohms, so 1800 watts of SL900 goodness.
I'll try to post a pic tonight.
 
#787
I find the Guitars ( by some players ) with a pointy beaming tone to be more offensive to the crowd than any drums... IMO

R Briere said:
In the past couple of years I've become a rather "Non-Fan" of Drummers. I know, I know.....a broad, sweeping nasty statement....but I've personally witnessed and been the victim of drummers who pop ear plugs in and THEN Wayyyyyyyyy overplay at inappropriate levels....emptying room after room. There should be a law.....Drummers for all but Death Metal bands can only use Brushes, Hot-Rods.....or #2 Pencils....I'd be willing to bet that we'd, eventually, see the audiences once again return to now-empty venues.
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Sparkl said:
Thought I would post a picture about my current setup. :p

Running an Am Std Jbass with Nordstrand NJ4 pups, through EBS MultiComp into Stl900. Paired with a Musicman 212 cab, with Fame studios 2x12 inside.

It kills. The sound is very vintage like, punchy warm (gets through the mix easily), very controlled. The amount of bass is just right, the highs are soft but still crispy, mids are very big on this cab. But even if you crank the mids all the way up, it does not produce those "forced" mids, which are more of an annoyance than a good thing. You can turn it way down low, or crank it to the max, the mids always stay very nice. The same with bass control.

And as it has been said many times probably, the treble control rocks on this amp - it doesn't really work as a normal treble knob but behaves more like a passive tone control. Amazing what only the treble knob on this amp can do.

Its actually amazing just how much of the variety you get by only messing with bass mid and treble control. 3 knobs people, its all you need apparently :)


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A guitar player I know has that same cab. Is it really a bass cab? And what is with the big opening at the bottom on those? Looks way to big to be a port.
 
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TinIndian said:
A guitar player I know has that same cab. Is it really a bass cab? And what is with the big opening at the bottom on those? Looks way to big to be a port.
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Well I "think" it was a bass cab all the way. But it doesn't include the original speakers anymore.

The big opening at the bottom is supposed to work as a bass enhancer.

Edit: Well indeed, after a minute of google I think that this actually is a bass cab. Didn't check the original wattage, but in my case, the fame speakers inside kick 200W each. So 400W combined under 8ohm.

The cab itself isn't a big deal (except being vintage, woohoo)... The real work is done by the speakers, and looks like the Fame studios play really nice with this amp.
 
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Here's the MM pic from 1977. I had and still have the amp and cab. Sold the bass, though. I've sometimes wondered if upgrading the speakers would be a worthwhile pursuit. Streaminer content: I've got an STM900 and l like it.
 

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I have to give a shout out to Jeff and Andy for making one heck of an amp. I used mine at Reggae on The River in Humboldt last Friday in 106 degree temps. Our soundcheck was almost an hour before we played, the amp sat in the sun the whole time and we threw down a 70 minute set with no overheating problems whatsoever. The chassis was pretty damn hot, but the amp ran just fine. The soundguy looked at me funny when i put the STL 900 on top of the SVT and switched out the speakon to my amp, but he was nothing but complimentary afterward!
 
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gustobassman said:
I have to give a shout out to Jeff and Andy for making one heck of an amp. I used mine at Reggae on The River in Humboldt last Friday in 106 degree temps. Our soundcheck was almost an hour before we played, the amp sat in the sun the whole time and we threw down a 70 minute set with no overheating problems whatsoever. The chassis was pretty damn hot, but the amp ran just fine. The soundguy looked at me funny when i put the STL 900 on top of the SVT and switched out the speakon to my amp, but he was nothing but complimentary afterward!
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Thanks Gustobassman. I'd like to also direct your shout out to Scott Andres (another engineer at GB at the time) who was a huge contributor on this design....and a great bass player as well.
Regarding your hot gig....during proto testing for this model we did nearly the same thing but in the AZ hot summer sun on a 115 degree day. The top of the chassis hit 140 degrees. We drove that head extremely hard into a very low 4 ohm cabinet load and had no issues (except the bass player getting dizzy and nearly passing out). I don't want to do that again anytime soon.
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
Thanks Gustobassman. I'd like to also direct your shout out to Scott Andres (another engineer at GB at the time) who was a huge contributor on this design....and a great bass player as well.
Regarding your hot gig....during proto testing for this model we did nearly the same thing but in the AZ hot summer sun on a 115 degree day. The top of the chassis hit 140 degrees. We drove that head extremely hard into a very low 4 ohm cabinet load and had no issues (except the bass player getting dizzy and nearly passing out). I don't want to do that again anytime soon.
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Yikes!! That would be brutal. I could feel the top of the amp through my Gator bag after the set, it was warm for awhile. I don't know how hard i was pushing the cab, I was running into an Ampeg 810, Gain at 10:00 (button OUT) , Vol 2:00, bass 10:00, mid 1:00 (@ 220), treble 10:00 and master about 12:00. I only wish my bass fared as well as my amp did in the heat.... lol
 
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Who was the sound company for the gig? I'm pretty sure I know the guys.

It's easy to talk about thermal performance but much more difficult to execute in practice. In fact, we were awarded a US patent for the thermal/dynamics management mechanisms used in your Streamliner.
 
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agedhorse said:
Who was the sound company for the gig? I'm pretty sure I know the guys.

It's easy to talk about thermal performance but much more difficult to execute in practice. In fact, we were awarded a US patent for the thermal/dynamics management mechanisms used in your Streamliner.
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Johnny Carson: "I DID NOT KNOW THAT". Makes the engineer/geek side of me all warm and tingly.
 
#799
Yesterday I finally picked-up one of these after ogling/ignoring/ogling/ignoring/ogling since the release date. Bought it from a guy at our rehearsal building so the first run was in a loud setting. I forgot what it was like to have the extra headroom! Not really digging how it gels with my OD pedals, but working on that. As stated here and in other threads, this thing is a great fit for the NX2 cabs and Baer cabs. The eq points fill-out the NX2 nicely for my needs.
I'm still hopelessly tweaking to get it closer to my Walkabout (mostly for the OD pedal issue). They are currently stacked together on top of a cab, so maybe if the mood is right those two will get together and reproduce a STL/WA hybrid offspring.
Maybe I should light some candles or something.
 
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