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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!

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Can be had from an auth dealer on eBay for 799 using best offer.

I bought a TC head from an authorized dealer on eBay and they seriously sucked when something went wrong. I only buy from shops I know have great customer service. I've bought from Greg at Rocket and Glenn at Bass Specialties. Not worth it to me to save a few bucks elsewhere because I know I'll be taken care of but ymmv.
 
I'd like to send out a quick thanks to KJung for the youtube clips.

Don't be too worried about overpowering the ThunderChild 112; I think it will be fine and sound fantastic with the Streamliner.

[~not so subtle hint for more clips~]

Ken, do you have any plans for gigging with the SL900 in the near future?

I'm sure most of your gigs are pretty JazzBass/F500/AE410 friendly, though.
 
Ken is no longer a Streamliner owner. Check out his thread on the Streamliner-TC RH450 comparison for the details.

I started to say something when he first posted about the Streamliner but I knew I'd be piled upon.

I played my Streamliner 900 for 14 hours non stop yesterday with it cranked, no issues.

Of coarse I took the JJ and Ruby tubes out of mine and put two real Mullards and an RCA in it. Todays current production tubes can not take being shipped inside an amp.

You have to understand shipping is extremely rough on packages. Some packages will take a 40 foot free fall drop onto hard concrete, be picked up, and sent on down the line. UPS, Fedex, and DHL get paid to move packages from point A to point be B and what happens in between matters not.


I was amazed with the Streamliner 900 amp. Using it allows true flowing form of musical expression.
 
@RP-which positions did you put those tubes in? Were the stock tubes causing problems for you? Is the process of changing tubes difficult? I was thinking of experimenting with this when I get my 900...need to look into tube manufacturers and sources a bit more.

Thanks.

Mark


 
Ken's posts and videos are always helpful to me and have influenced my thinking about equipment, so thanks for that Ken..sorry the amp didn't work out but in the grander scheme of things I think we will all agree it is no big deal.
 
I don't have a two-strikes rule with gear, but I do have a one-strike rule with customer service from companies. So far a couple have failed that one (and that is with giving them a very long strike). I figure that with equipment stuff happens. But customer service is a choice made by the business. I've never seen/heard GB failing on the CS front.
 
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Play nice gentlemen. Libelous statements as have been edited out from above won't fly around here.

Equipment failures happen, how consumers deal with them is their prerogative, as is how manufacturers deal with them.
 
Equipment failures happen, how consumers deal with them is their prerogative, as is how manufacturers deal with them.

I agree. Ken's situation is no different then a guy trying a set of new strings only to find out the one of the strings is crap, they send a replacement set and another one is bum. That person may decide to move on to different manufacturer just because, regardless if everyone else is completely happy. His perogative. In my opinion this is great. Ken is keeping it real and just stating the problems that he had and GB is addressing them. Both real. +1 to both. And I still can't wait to get mine.:bassist:
 
Luck of the draw. In another thread Ken commented that when my MB head took a fall and landed on a knob, resulting in a broken preamp board, it was "bad luck" and probably wouldn't be covered under warranty. I argue that having knobs directly mounted to a pc board without proper reinforcement on the faceplate is in fact a design flaw (GB does *not* do this btw), but I suppose I should have known that going into the purchase. No matter how you spin it, where the rubber hits the road is with customer service. Bad luck on Ken's part was met with a priority overnight shipped replacement (with Sat delivery) and second bad luck was no doubt meet with some other offer of rectification. Bad luck on my part has the head still sitting in a repair facility for over a month now with no word on ETA on the needed part, nor whether or not it will be covered under warranty.

To me there is the take-home lesson. You're buying the company behind the product, not just the product. My S900 will be here Monday and get a workout Monday night. I have a spare 12ax7 that will go into my gig bag just like other spare things (cables, batteries, etc). Just part of the reality of living in tube land. Of course the other thing that was "good news" is that the amp wasn't dead in the water as you could use the effects return. So on a gig a tube failure could be worked around. No one wants to have to deal with that, but as Baretta said, "don't do the crime if you can't do the time..." ;)
 
I knew it was coming.

I said my piece, it is what I believe, I stand behind it, and I'm moving on.

I do not represent any company on these pages.





Now can we get back to the Streamliner?

What I find I like the most about this amp is that it appears to be tailored to my sound. I pretty much run it flat. When I'm using my Upright Bass I back off on the bass control just a smidgen.

I like the tube choices I made for it and am getting good results with from my rather large tube stash. It is a breath of fresh air to be able to throw a very good tube preamp section back into the mix of the Micro Amp.

I was loving my Shuttle 9.0 and could not imagine how it's tone/features could possibly be one upped but it has been. My Shuttle 9.0 will now become my rehearsal amp and my Streamliner will be the main coarse Amp.

And yes at rehearsal we usually go 12 to 14 hours with one break in the middle for food. Some of that time is taken up shooting the breeze but most of it is taking each song in our rather large repertoire and dissecting them down to the subtlest finer points. Each little accent is planned out though yes we do a good bit of improvising as well. I have several songs I solo on and rarely do I play the same thing twice.

My Streamliner 900 got put through it's paces for sure yesterday.

What a great amp.
 
I just finished a series of gigs at private events for the Superbowl.. I was at the stadium a few hours ago .. Its a zoo.. My friend is working the SB inside says that the pizzas at concession stand with one topping is $60 !!!
Jerry Jones is a greedy $&^%*^)&.. Local businesses are charging $75 to park in their lot blocks away.. Glad i had a pass.. whewww

Anyway, just got home. Used the Streamliner head on 3 shows with two Uber 1288 Quads.. The rig kicked tail.. Used my Sadowsky NYC PJ5 yesterday with one act and my well broken in Alleva Coppolo kbp4 on today's gig with another.
Sound company was a nice size JBL Vertec line array system, Crown power , old yamaha pm3k boards with a Harrison house board.
Crew loved the Genz DI out..
Flawless performance from my gear.. wish i did the same... I fell though a sidewalk grate this week and did something to my neck and my hands are numb.. ughhh.. But the gig went on..
I was definitely moving some air..
 
Red Planet said:
I knew this would happen. When he came up with the two strikes rule in the thread I knew it was a setup.


No he doesn't.
Ken is a good friend and in PM's has HIGHLY recommended this amp to me.
And in case you missed his praise of the Streamliner, maybe you should go back and read a bit.
 
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