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Genz-Benz Streamliner Part 5

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#501
Eublet said:
I do believe in finding a good rig with a good tone, but the nonstop searching for things that will lead to bass nirvana is always going to be elusive.
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On recent gigs I fully experienced how the sound of your bass rig drastically changes depending where you stand on the stage.

Went three meters to the front - tiny and zingy - went two meters back - sweet spot, perfect - went one meter back - boomy, indistinct.

I know, nothing new.. but it puts all these nitpicking things discussed here into a perspective. Frustrating, though.
 
#503
nemo said:
On recent gigs I fully experienced how the sound of your bass rig drastically changes depending where you stand on the stage.

Went three meters to the front - tiny and zingy - went two meters back - sweet spot, perfect - went one meter back - boomy, indistinct.

I know, nothing new.. but it puts all these nitpicking things discussed here into a perspective. Frustrating, though.
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Yeah, there are so many things that can be going on when things like that are happening. Reflection can create standing waves where you are either getting pummeled by the bass, or it is canceling out almost entirely. I remember reading a Gary Willis interview a long time ago where he talked about how and why he elevates his cabs, and that he always stays within a few feet of them so that he can hear. I understand the type of gigs he does are different than what a rock player might do for example, and Gary isn't running around the stage and trying to put on a show with a bunch of antics. But the benefits he offered of doing this have proven true for me when that type of gig warrants it. For everything else, there's wireless IEM! :D
 
#505
Nemo, FWIW, on a gig without PA support, it is always better to dial the sound of your rig in to sound best in audience...do you agree? I always walk out about 20 ft and dial in from that location. Now when standing close to my rig, I am used to how it should sound when properly dialed in from an audience perspective. Of course, not everyone gigs without PA support.
 
#508
hasbeen said:
I own a 635-24 ash body, burl maple top, ash neck, maple board. This was one bass that was used in tests of prototypes on this amp.

Also, Mike Tobias as been recommending this amp for many of his artists.
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Thank you a lot, I must have missed the review in this thread. Now I must get rid of my GK 8X10, and my Yorkville 2 4X10's, and 2 1X15's to fund some Avatar cabs to go with it!
 
#515
I spent some time tonight with my M6, MB200, and the STM900 through the Berg AE212. Since the M6 has been my go to for a long while, I tried to dial both the STM900 and MB200 to similiar to the M6. I used an ash/maple JO5 and then after I got the sound in the ballpark I used some other basses. My first gig with the STM900 was a bit of a struggle, but after playing around with it and the M6, I now know what I was missing. It was some upper mid presence and treble. The settings shown for the MB200 and the STM900 will get you in the same tonal space as the M6 set flat.

I really did like the setting with the gain in, however with some playing around I am really fond of the gain out, gain around eleven and the input volume around 3 oclock. Running the input volume this hot does really open things up for me and then bumping the mids at 2.5 and bumping the treble gets me in my J bass territory. Some of you won't like the extra clank and treble of this setting, but for me this is the presence and clarity I need. Can't wait to try it at Sundays gig. Feeling better about this amp, and I believe as Jason said it takes some playing around to really know how the tone is affected by each control.

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#517
I'm close to those settings, Saluki. Maybe bass cut a little more, and I prefer treble flat at most, or as low down as 9 or 10 o'clock, in which case I'll really boost those mids at 2.5khz. The latter two things in tandem seem to really work well together as you can crank those high mids but use the PTC-like treble control to keep it from taking your head off.
 
#518
Saluki said:
I spent some time tonight with my M6, MB200, and the STM900 through the Berg AE212. Since the M6 has been my go to for a long while, I tried to dial both the STM900 and MB200 to similiar to the M6. I used an ash/maple JO5 and then after I got the sound in the ballpark I used some other basses. My first gig with the STM900 was a bit of a struggle, but after playing around with it and the M6, I now know what I was missing. It was some upper mid presence and treble. The settings shown for the MB200 and the STM900 will get you in the same tonal space as the M6 set flat.
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Thanks man, tried this setting with my Mike Lull M5V with Berg 112ER and it really sounded clean and very punchy - no "woof" that I was getting from the Berg 12.
The SL 900 is really an amp that sounds great clean; just gotta mess around a bit.

Much obliged with everyone posting their settings. Good stuff
 
#519
Saluki said:
I spent some time tonight with my M6, MB200, and the STM900 through the Berg AE212. Since the M6 has been my go to for a long while, I tried to dial both the STM900 and MB200 to similiar to the M6. I used an ash/maple JO5 and then after I got the sound in the ballpark I used some other basses. My first gig with the STM900 was a bit of a struggle, but after playing around with it and the M6, I now know what I was missing. It was some upper mid presence and treble. The settings shown for the MB200 and the STM900 will get you in the same tonal space as the M6 set flat.

I really did like the setting with the gain in, however with some playing around I am really fond of the gain out, gain around eleven and the input volume around 3 oclock. Running the input volume this hot does really open things up for me and then bumping the mids at 2.5 and bumping the treble gets me in my J bass territory. Some of you won't like the extra clank and treble of this setting, but for me this is the presence and clarity I need. Can't wait to try it at Sundays gig. Feeling better about this amp, and I believe as Jason said it takes some playing around to really know how the tone is affected by each control.

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Well this is a convenient post. I got my Streamliner 900 today and tomorrow I will take it to practice and compare it to my M6. Thanks for the tips, I'll give those settings a try with my Berg HS210 and report back!
 
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