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Genz-Benz Streamliner Part 6
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Those lights are actually just small LEDs on the circuit board just behind the tubes, and I believe there's actually one for each tube. I would imagine if the brightness has varied, it's just because they've had some variance in the brightness of a certain lot of those parts. I would think as long as they are lit, all is well.
They are purely aesthetic/non-functional as far as I know.
hasbeen
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we can't win: "my RSBL's are too bright.....my RSBL's aren't bright enough".
Your window is as it should be. We didn't want the light source to be seen. We didn't want it to over power the glow of the tube elements.
we can't win: "my RSBL's are too bright.....my RSBL's aren't bright enough".
Your window is as it should be. We didn't want the light source to be seen. We didn't want it to over power the glow of the tube elements.
Hey Roger, as you can tell by my recent Avatar change, I continue to TOTALLY dig this head!
hasbeen
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Hey Roger, as you can tell by my recent Avatar change, I continue to TOTALLY dig this head!
I dig it!! I was going to do something similar, but considering my affiliation and how much I post in non-Genz discussions, I didn't want to overtly "fly the colors" in threads that had nothing to do with GB....if that makes sense. I love your avatar though...looks cool.
hasbeen said:we can't win: "my RSBL's are too bright.....my RSBL's aren't bright enough".
Your window is as it should be. We didn't want the light source to be seen. We didn't want it to over power the glow of the tube elements.
All is well, then. Thanks, Roger!
So I had my first gig with mine last night. P Bass, flats, STR9 into my Berg NV412.
Sounded fantastic. Big fat and punchy. It drove the band like nothing else.
Thank you Genz Benz
Sounded fantastic. Big fat and punchy. It drove the band like nothing else.
Thank you Genz Benz
hasbeen
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One really nice thing about the Streamliner is that ability to get that old cranked Tube Amp sound but with a little more beef behind it.
I can shut my eyes and hear all the way back to the days when I had an SVT on one side of the stage and a Dual Showman on the other. Just a touch of overdrive and a roll back of the tone control on my P Bass and whamo I'm back there all over again.
The really nice part is opening the eyes and seeing a 6 pound amp and two 1x12 cabs that pump.
Who needs a tweeter anyway?
I can shut my eyes and hear all the way back to the days when I had an SVT on one side of the stage and a Dual Showman on the other. Just a touch of overdrive and a roll back of the tone control on my P Bass and whamo I'm back there all over again.
The really nice part is opening the eyes and seeing a 6 pound amp and two 1x12 cabs that pump.
Who needs a tweeter anyway?
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True..
The Streamliner sounds great though an 810 too.. Im playing the International Guitar Show in Dallas next week.. Will bring my SL900.. I think they backline the cabs since my cabs will be going to another gig..... ughhh ..
So i will bring my 900 and Max12.. If i have Two 810's, I'll wind up using the Max12... If one cab, then its the SL900..
The Streamliner sounds great though an 810 too.. Im playing the International Guitar Show in Dallas next week.. Will bring my SL900.. I think they backline the cabs since my cabs will be going to another gig..... ughhh ..
So i will bring my 900 and Max12.. If i have Two 810's, I'll wind up using the Max12... If one cab, then its the SL900..
One really nice thing about the Streamliner is that ability to get that old cranked Tube Amp sound but with a little more beef behind it.
I can shut my eyes and hear all the way back to the days when I had an SVT on one side of the stage and a Dual Showman on the other. Just a touch of overdrive and a roll back of the tone control on my P Bass and whamo I'm back there all over again.
The really nice part is opening the eyes and seeing a 6 pound amp and two 1x12 cabs that pump.
Who needs a tweeter anyway?
I tried cripula's new Streamliner last week and I believe I've now finally hit a longstanding goal - it's the first micro that I've ever been confident could replace my aging Eden WT400 without compromise, and bring the power the WT400 lacked.
It's getting tricky to sift info out of these huge threads - where's the best prices on the Streamliner currently? And I guess I'll need a case - what sort of "gig bag" options are people liking? I liked the Pelican case idea but a soft over-the-shoulder case is going to be better for my needs. The stock cases look good, but I wanted to see my range of options. Someone mentioned the Gigskinz bags - anyone know which model? Any others?
Thanks in advance!
It's getting tricky to sift info out of these huge threads - where's the best prices on the Streamliner currently? And I guess I'll need a case - what sort of "gig bag" options are people liking? I liked the Pelican case idea but a soft over-the-shoulder case is going to be better for my needs. The stock cases look good, but I wanted to see my range of options. Someone mentioned the Gigskinz bags - anyone know which model? Any others?
Thanks in advance!
poptart
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The Genz Benz bag is fine. And the outside pocket has plenty of room for the power lead and a speaker lead.
S900 thru Berg HS210 sounded awesome at practice today. I had it on the floor blowing through my legs, but it sounded big and fat the whole time. With where it was located, it was difficult to hear any of that ash/maple jazz grind that I like, but when I put me ear closer to it I could hear it was all there. With just the one 210 cab, I may experiment with different cab placements. I'm thinking I might put the cab up on a stand for this Friday's gig with a 9-piece band until I get myself a second HS210 to stack vertically. Never gigged that way, but I'm sure it won't be an issue. The sound at this particular venue is always pretty bass heavy especially with the subs underneath the stage.
first, thanks to everyone who has posted here. lots of good information found here.
second, i was a g-b user before, now i'm a g-b artist (or whatever the proper nomenclature is), so you can take whatever i say now with a grain of salt.
went to the g-b hang in l.a. today. it was big fun. doug johns is a mo-fo and a good host. some other guys got up and played through the gear.
one thing i learned from the hang is that the streamliner definitely has a *lot* of different sounds in there. i heard it go from modern funk/slap stuff to flatwound funky/jazz stuff to one guy doing thrash (overdriving the tubes very nicely). pretty great, imho.
meeting jeff genzler was great. the man is *listening* to what people have to say about the gear and has some great ideas. i think the streamliner is a good indication of that.
semi-review:
i took possession of my streamliner 600 this last week and thought i'd give some thoughts on it that might not been covered by other folks.
first, i play 6-strings (overwound passive pickups, no preamp), and it kills for them. the low b string speaks really well; high c string is very nice. i'm still messing with the mid section to figure out what i like. also, i have a 12-string (6x2) and the high end on the sl600 really brings out the octave strings—and this from a guy who is rolling the treble off a little (and turns off tweeters). sounds great with both flatwounds and roundwounds (as people have noted).
as many people have mentioned, the streamliner is a different animal than the shuttlemax stuff (i have a 12.0). not better/worse. different. complementary. i probably like the shuttlemax a little better for fretless *so far*.
also as people have mentioned, the gain switch (a feature on both the amps) is really great. this is where the magic happens for me on the amp. i like pushing in the gain button and making the gain a little louder than the volume—makes the amp very touch-sensitive.
also, most guys seem to have compared to other micro amps or the aguilar stuff. yesterday i was checking the sl 600 against my 1970s ampeg v-4b. to me, the sl600 can get that lee sklar 70s thing without breaking a sweat—way better than my ampeg, which is kind of odd, if you think about it. the sl600 has better low end and better high, and has less of a strange midrange thing that's always there in the ampeg. (i know this could be tube age and so forth, but the tubes are *not* from the 70s). the sl600 also takes a bass with pretty hot output way better (no inadvertent distortion) and gets louder output. i was hopeful, but frankly somewhat surprised about all this. probably the only thing that ampeg beat the sl600 on was a certain "something" coming from the power tubes. can't quantify it, but there is something about a tube power section that a class d power amp is probably not going to be able to cover. that being said, it's, what, about a 10th of the ampeg's weight? overall, it's more of what *i* want out of that kind of amp. oh yeah, the ampeg doesn't have master volume.
got the oem gig bag. seems fine, i'll know more later. odd smell (i guess it's whatever they do at the factory for these things)
i'm surprised that no one mentions the ability to change voltages on the g-b stuff. i don't travel a lot right now, but i did in the past and hope to again in the future. seems to be a huge plus to me (vs. the markbass stuff, for instance, which doesn't have that feature—odd since they're european).
cabs used: epifani t112, epifani t110, stack of epifani t112/t110
caveat: not gig usage, home studio usage (but since i know what the other things sound like at home vs. live, i have a pretty decent idea).
second, i was a g-b user before, now i'm a g-b artist (or whatever the proper nomenclature is), so you can take whatever i say now with a grain of salt.
went to the g-b hang in l.a. today. it was big fun. doug johns is a mo-fo and a good host. some other guys got up and played through the gear.
one thing i learned from the hang is that the streamliner definitely has a *lot* of different sounds in there. i heard it go from modern funk/slap stuff to flatwound funky/jazz stuff to one guy doing thrash (overdriving the tubes very nicely). pretty great, imho.
meeting jeff genzler was great. the man is *listening* to what people have to say about the gear and has some great ideas. i think the streamliner is a good indication of that.
semi-review:
i took possession of my streamliner 600 this last week and thought i'd give some thoughts on it that might not been covered by other folks.
first, i play 6-strings (overwound passive pickups, no preamp), and it kills for them. the low b string speaks really well; high c string is very nice. i'm still messing with the mid section to figure out what i like. also, i have a 12-string (6x2) and the high end on the sl600 really brings out the octave strings—and this from a guy who is rolling the treble off a little (and turns off tweeters). sounds great with both flatwounds and roundwounds (as people have noted).
as many people have mentioned, the streamliner is a different animal than the shuttlemax stuff (i have a 12.0). not better/worse. different. complementary. i probably like the shuttlemax a little better for fretless *so far*.
also as people have mentioned, the gain switch (a feature on both the amps) is really great. this is where the magic happens for me on the amp. i like pushing in the gain button and making the gain a little louder than the volume—makes the amp very touch-sensitive.
also, most guys seem to have compared to other micro amps or the aguilar stuff. yesterday i was checking the sl 600 against my 1970s ampeg v-4b. to me, the sl600 can get that lee sklar 70s thing without breaking a sweat—way better than my ampeg, which is kind of odd, if you think about it. the sl600 has better low end and better high, and has less of a strange midrange thing that's always there in the ampeg. (i know this could be tube age and so forth, but the tubes are *not* from the 70s). the sl600 also takes a bass with pretty hot output way better (no inadvertent distortion) and gets louder output. i was hopeful, but frankly somewhat surprised about all this. probably the only thing that ampeg beat the sl600 on was a certain "something" coming from the power tubes. can't quantify it, but there is something about a tube power section that a class d power amp is probably not going to be able to cover. that being said, it's, what, about a 10th of the ampeg's weight? overall, it's more of what *i* want out of that kind of amp. oh yeah, the ampeg doesn't have master volume.
got the oem gig bag. seems fine, i'll know more later. odd smell (i guess it's whatever they do at the factory for these things)
i'm surprised that no one mentions the ability to change voltages on the g-b stuff. i don't travel a lot right now, but i did in the past and hope to again in the future. seems to be a huge plus to me (vs. the markbass stuff, for instance, which doesn't have that feature—odd since they're european).
cabs used: epifani t112, epifani t110, stack of epifani t112/t110
caveat: not gig usage, home studio usage (but since i know what the other things sound like at home vs. live, i have a pretty decent idea).
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