Genz Benz Streamliner Part 9

[Darkstrike]

Time to browse some sites to see what preamps are out there!

Was thinking about this, and remembered my Ashdown Lomenzo Hyperdrive. Supposedly it's based off of an old Pearce preamp(I've never heard of them before), so, worth a swing at least. Set it up to add some grind and sparkle in the high mids, and hooked it up to the fx-return.



Awesome, awesome modern gritty sound. Still might try some eq pedals and preamps, but definitely happy with the Hyperdrive doing my more modern sounds.

 

[Saluki]

What are some tight and grindy cabs to recommend with this monster?

You would be describing a bergantino AE112.

 

[nutdog]

The sax player in my band gigs with a cover band sometimes. Their bassist came to a gig of ours a month ago and just bought a streamliner because he liked the sound so much. That sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.

I wonder why he would want something he couldn't hear in the mix?

 

[UntitledProject]

I wonder why he would want something he couldn't hear in the mix?

This is actually funny. At our gig last night after the show I confessed to our guitarist that my monitor had been off through the whole gig. He asked my why I didn't say anything. I told him I could here his guitar from his amp (conveniently pointed in my general direction), and I could here the drummer because I was positioned so close (small stage). I said I just couldn't hear myself... but then again, I know what I'm playing...
It's not important that I hear it in the mix, I know what I'm playing, it's just important that the audience feels the groove. And The Streamliner is a Groove Machine.

 

[f.c.geil]

I wonder why he would want something he couldn't hear in the mix?

Why do you frequent threads about equipment you hate?

I hear my STM just fine in a mix. It's present, full, articulate. You just have to be able to play it.

 

[UntitledProject]

Why do you frequent threads about equipment you hate?

I hear my STM just fine in a mix. It's present, full, articulate. You just have to be able to play it.

Very good point. I now feel embarrassed for responding. I absolutely love my STM.

 

[nutdog]

Why do you frequent threads about equipment you hate?

I hear my STM just fine in a mix. It's present, full, articulate. You just have to be able to play it.

Keep it in your pants, big boy. I have a Streamliner and love it. Just making a joke. I don't hate any equipment. I was only in your test thread to see if the pro got equal treatment.

 

[f.c.geil]

I'm sorry that came across as an attack. I was asking a legitimate question. The fact that you didn't catch that it was legitimate, and the fact that I didn't catch that you were joking just shows the shortcomings of the typed word as opposed to verbal discourse.

 

[UntitledProject]

Now we can all be friends. We all have streamliners and we all love them. The internet, bringing people from all corners together, oh what a world we live in....

 

[Red Planet]

I hooked a Summit TD-100 staright in the return jack and OMG what a glorious tone. Tight and clean.

 

[nutdog]

This is actually funny. At our gig last night after the show I confessed to our guitarist that my monitor had been off through the whole gig. He asked my why I didn't say anything. I told him I could here his guitar from his amp (conveniently pointed in my general direction), and I could here the drummer because I was positioned so close (small stage). I said I just couldn't hear myself... but then again, I know what I'm playing...
It's not important that I hear it in the mix, I know what I'm playing, it's just important that the audience feels the groove. And The Streamliner is a Groove Machine.

I'm a bit confused by this post. On a small stage you can't hear yourself playing?

I'm sorry that came across as an attack. I was asking a legitimate question. The fact that you didn't catch that it was legitimate, and the fact that I didn't catch that you were joking just shows the shortcomings of the typed word as opposed to verbal discourse.

That's why I put in the little winkie thingie.

So if my comment is understood as a poke at the "can't hear it in the mix" crowd, do you still need to know why I go around frequenting threads about equipment I hate?

 

[f.c.geil]

That's why I put in the little winkie thingie.

Ah, yes. I missed it entirely. That helps so much.

So if my comment is understood as a poke at the "can't hear it in the mix" crowd, do you still need to know why I go around frequenting threads about equipment I hate?

Yup. Still don't get it. << See, two can play at the winkie thingie!

 

[silky smoove]

As low end frequencies are rather long one must stand further away from the point of origin to hear their true sound.

This is a common misconception. It's simply untrue. If it were true, headphones wouldn't work except for frequencies with wavelengths no longer than about an inch or two.

 

[nutdog]

No, but on a small STAGE, where I had to stand on top of my cabinet I had difficulty hearing it. As low end frequencies are rather long one must stand further away from the point of origin to hear their true sound. On a stage where one can stand 5 or more feet away from the point of origin one can more effectively use an amp for stage volume. Having low end frequencies flying by my knees doesn't do much for hearing on stage.

You're fast. I tried to fix it. At my last gig it was a small stage and I was going through the PA. I planned on using one cab, but decided it would be too low, so I put the other under it, and since I lugged it in I might as well plug it in and I'm so glad I did.

Yup. Still don't get it. << See, two can play at the winkie thingie!

 

[nutdog]

This is a common misconception. It's simply untrue. If it were true, headphones wouldn't work except for frequencies with wavelengths no longer than about an inch or two.

I think he's just saying the cab was pointed at his knees and not his ears.

 

[silky smoove]

I'm not sure what he was trying to say, but his statement is incorrect as written, and moreover it's a common misconception. Not a big deal. Just trying to head misinformation off at the pass.

 

[silky smoove]

I agree that low frequencies are longer. The assumption that you need to be a distance at least one wavelength, or any distance away to hear them "truly" is the part that is wrong.

 

[silky smoove]

I made a small edit while you were posting that.

See my original post that quotes you saying something incorrect. I was correcting misinformation. That is all.

 

[nutdog]

From agedhorse, in streamliner part 8:

"When playing around with the Streamliner, try standing back about 6-10' from the cab and see if that balances things out better. If you are right on top of it, your perception may be skewed. (This really applies to any amp/speaker combo)."

"the point of standing away from the cabinet is to allow better and more on axis response, better averaging of response from near bounderies (like the floor), and a better location away from reflections."

So for trying to determine the way your rig really sounds in the room, this is appropriate. But as a stage monitor if you tilt the cab or raise it up to ear level it will improve your ability to hear yourself. If you're standing six inches from your cab and it's pointed at your knees it will be hard to hear if it's competing with drums and guitar.

 

[silky smoove]

That comment refers to midrange and higher frequencies which are directional by nature (the higher the frequency, the more directional). The post I was addressing was specific to low frequencies, which are less directional, and just like any other frequency, require no amount of distance to be heard "truly."

Whether the post conveyed what was intended is irrelevant. I was simply correcting misinformation. As written it was incorrect.