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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 9

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To all, What triggers the Peak to kick in, would that be high gain/channel volume of output/master volume? There are time playing that I hear more compression than normal and I notice the peak really flashing and I don't know wether to drop front end volume and boost master or what. Just curious. I have a 600 into a 15/6/1 by the way
gab
 
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Peak LED tracks the 3DPM action, which references the output of the power amp. If the peak LED is really flashing, you are reaching the limits of the amp. YOu might find that you like the sound and feel in this case by rolling off a bit of low end and see if that brings you back to something more useable to your needs.
 
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agedhorse said:
Peak LED tracks the 3DPM action, which references the output of the power amp. If the peak LED is really flashing, you are reaching the limits of the amp. YOu might find that you like the sound and feel in this case by rolling off a bit of low end and see if that brings you back to something more useable to your needs.
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Ok, I'll try that. For reference, I am already rolled back to about 10 - 10:30 on bass and have master volume at 1:00. I thought I would have the ability to get to more around 2-3 on master before pushing the amp to limits. The bass on my instrument preamp might be a a little high though, I'll check that as well. It does sound good, just a little squashed. Kind of reminds me of how my Thunderfunk 550 sounded at high volume, things started compressing at that point. Maybe I just need a 900!
Thanks,
gab
 
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I promised to post this up when it arrived, so here it is.

Art of Noise 15/6. 35.4 pounds on the scale, and a WONDERFUL match with the Streamliner and a P Bass. Sounds great with just a touch of top end rolled off, bass flat, and a bit of boost in the lower mids to punch it up a bit.

GREAT sounding old school P Bass rig with lots of 'modern' improvements... weight, volume, dispersion, maximum volume.

Very impressive, and the Streamliner drives the heck out of it at 8ohms.

Nice!

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KJung said:
I promised to post this up when it arrived, so here it is.

Art of Noise 15/6. 35.4 pounds on the scale, and a WONDERFUL match with the Streamliner and a P Bass. Sounds great with just a touch of top end rolled off, bass flat, and a bit of boost in the lower mids to punch it up a bit.

GREAT sounding old school P Bass rig with lots of 'modern' improvements... weight, volume, dispersion, maximum volume.

Very impressive, and the Streamliner drives the heck out of it at 8ohms.

Nice!

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I think this is a modern P-bass/B-15 type dream.
 
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Gab124 said:
Ok, I'll try that. For reference, I am already rolled back to about 10 - 10:30 on bass and have master volume at 1:00. I thought I would have the ability to get to more around 2-3 on master before pushing the amp to limits. The bass on my instrument preamp might be a a little high though, I'll check that as well. It does sound good, just a little squashed. Kind of reminds me of how my Thunderfunk 550 sounded at high volume, things started compressing at that point. Maybe I just need a 900!
Thanks,
gab
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The position on the master volume does not have any relation to actual output level... if your bass has a sensitivity that's 6dB hotter than another bass, you would need to take 6dB off of the master volume to make the volume the same. There is extra gain in all stages to accomodate basses and playing styles that result in different signal levels.
 
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svtb15 said:
Thank you Dukeorock.

The 115 and Quad do work well.. The 115 seems a little louder to me though.. I am OK with that..
Two Quads are killer and have good enough bottom for almost any gig.. BUT the two 115s are the rock rig.. I actually like it MUCH more than any 810.. Seems to be more clear and have better definition than any 810.. Just my opinion
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I'm currently using one Uber 410 with my STM 900. What differences in tone could I expect if I started using two Uber 115's instead?
 
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agedhorse said:
The position on the master volume does not have any relation to actual output level...

...There is extra gain in all stages to accomodate basses and playing styles that result in different signal levels.
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+1

One of the things I like about the Streamliner, is that it has an "honest" master volume.

Manufacturers have allowed customers to chase them down a rabbit hole the last decade or so, with ridiculous tapers on the master pots ("Look how loud it is! And the master's only at 9 o'clock!!!), that create an artificial sense of power.

The fact is, a lot of late-model amps are right on the edge of the limiter with the master volume at 1 o'clock, or even noon. The really stupid thing about that, is that tapers that steep make the volume control touchy, and hard to control at lower settings.

Kudos to Genz yet again, for doing the right thing.
 
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Honestly.. I have never played an UBER 410 on a gig..I actually have never played a 410 for more than 30 seconds at a friends gig while he was on break.. I would like to get one someday .. So i really cant answer your question without only speculating .. Im sorry..
I love two uber 115s though.. But I dont know how to compare the 410 to a pair of 115s without a side by side..

The Uber Quad that i have is 1x12 + 2x8 + 1tweet in a box.

The 810 comparison that i spoke about is simply that I hear the mids better with 115s stacked than i do with an 810 cab for some reason.. Speaker gurus will probably say that is do to the comb filtering that you get with speakers that are side by side.. Thats out of my territory to be able to explain properly.


Killens84 said:
I'm currently using one Uber 410 with my STM 900. What differences in tone could I expect if I started using two Uber 115's instead?
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Killens84 said:
Two 15" cabs have a little more total speaker area than a 4x10" cab. So I'm guessing it would also be a little easier to get the two 115 cabs to sound "louder" than one 410.
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Yes, but not noticeably. We're only talking about (approximately) .75 dB difference, and the vast majority of people can't hear that, unless it's back to back.
 
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johnk_10 said:
i've been A/B'ing between my STM900 and one of my SVT's to try and capture more of the SVT's vibe, and i'm having good success by putting a presonus EQ3B in the effects loop. the EQ3B doesn't add any noise and doesn't change any of the punch of the amp, just gives it more precise tonal shaping. here's the setting that i'm using right now and it's pretty darn close:

for me, it gives the 900 a bit more of the SVT mid punch that i feel that is sometimes lacking when using different cabs.
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Is the EQ3B discontinued?
 
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