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GenzBenz Streamliner Pt 8...

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#421
nutdog said:
Really you should stand 30 feet away to allow the wave to form.

Just kidding.
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I am the system engineer for a show tonight and the guy mixing FOH looked at me kind of funny when I read this and I laughed out loud. I really shouldn't multi-task, it can be embarrassing ;)

Of course you understood what my comments were about, but to clarify for others that may not have gotten the technical joke, the point of standing away from the cabinet is to allow better and more on axis response, better averaging of response from near bounderies (like the floor), and a better location away from reflections.
 
#423
lo-freq said:
That Philips tube is a very tonally balanced tube.

I tried several different tubes when I had my Demeter VTBP-201S and that 12AX7WA was my favorite.
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Phillips is one cool company. They brought us Mullard and a number of other products. I do business with Phillips every day. We manufacture parts that go into medical devices.
 
#425
Got my Streamliner 900 today at lunch and from the first looks of it it really punches the snot out of the EA CXL 112's!!!!

Had to Dial the Bass back to 10-11 o'clock, really happy with the mids in the 2.5 setting against my belief, and the highs dialed back to 11 o'clock to kill some of the hair on the more drive boost.

Initial reactions.... this is the baddest, lightest piece of equipment I have ever seen!

Can't wait for a gig with it!!!!
 
#426
stingraysvt said:
Got my Streamliner 900 today at lunch and from the first looks of it it really punches the snot out of the EA CXL 112's!!!!

Had to Dial the Bass back to 10-11 o'clock, really happy with the mids in the 2.5 setting against my belief, and the highs dialed back to 11 o'clock to kill some of the hair on the more drive boost.

Initial reactions.... this is the baddest, lightest piece of equipment I have ever seen!

Can't wait for a gig with it!!!!
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As to your name, are you using a stingray with the 900?
 
#427
Gab124 said:
As to your name, are you using a stingray with the 900?
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Haven't even busted it out yet!!! My 86' 62 RI was sitting on top from practice Monday night so it got the spanking. But I'll more than likely go on a gear rampage and play all of them (including the stingrays!!) through it!!!! :hyper:
 
#429
Just picked up a Streamliner 600 in the classifieds. Get it next Tuesday. Since my Walkabout is now mounted in the Walkabout combo cab and my GK 1001 RB II sits on my Epi PS410 at the other band's rehearsal space, I wanted something to go with my 2 GK NEO 112 II's. Should make for a nice portable rig and be a handy backup if using one of the others.
 
#434
I have both a Walkabout and a Streamliner 900. I don't find the MPulse 600 to sound very much like the Walkabout, so I don't know if those comparisons really apply (I would say the Streamliner seems voiced closer to the MPulse than it does the Walkabout just based on my recollection of the MPulse). As far as the Walkabout/Streamliner comparison, I am definitely of the camp that finds the Streamliner to sound fairly scooped and dull next to the Walkabout (alot of that is that the inherent Walkabout voicing adds alot of mids in a pleasing matter, where the Streamliner adds MUCH more bass/bass extension and treble, making the mids feel a little lifeless to my mid-happy ears unless boosted to the extremes). That said, I've found with some relatively extreme EQ'ing on the Streamliner I can dial in tones I am pretty happy with and with much more power in a smaller package than the Walkabout, so for now its a keeper. For some the inherent voicing of the Streamliner will probably be preferable- and its hard to complain about the massive punch you get outta such a miniscule little box!
 
#435
on a related note...

i'm still cab shopping, and am very tempted by the genz neo-x 2x12. i'm worried it won't be loud enough though. i'm playing a streamliner 900, in a loud fast hardcore punk band. one guitarist plays a 5150 2x12 combo, the other has a crate blue voodoo head and 2x12 cab.

where the streamliner won't do 2 ohms, will a single 2x12 be enough cab to be heard?
 
#437
stingraysvt said:
...really happy with the mids in the 2.5 setting against my belief, and the highs dialed back to 11 o'clock to kill some of the hair on the more drive boost.

Initial reactions.... this is the baddest, lightest piece of equipment I have ever seen!
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+1 on dialing in the mids with the switch at 2.5K.

I originally avoided it, because I don't generally want to boost that area. Playing around with my RTA software revealed that because of the preshape on the bass/treble part of the tone stack, the 2.5K setting actually acts more like a conventional mid boost. On most settings, the push it provides is much further down the spectrum.

There's more info on the tone control primer thread, and there will be still more, once I can get some scope traces up.
 
#438
I was shopping for a new head yesterday (I'm a long-time WB user) and compared the Aguilar TH500 against the Streamliner 900. The Aguilar was just too mid-range dominant for my tastes. A soloists amp, to my ears. Lots of booty, but the over-all mid-range voice cannot be dialed out, no matter what you do with the sweepable mid controls. Sort of a one trick pony. Exceptional build quality though.

The Streamliner seemed a happy medium between the TH500 and the Walkabout, with a warmer and more pleasing sonic signature - at least to these ears. If only my Walkabout had more power, I'd never think of another amp. But yesterdays audition with the Streamliner makes me think it would be a great addition, having some the of warmth and tube goodness of the WB, but different enough to prove an alternative. More power and smaller form-factor is a big plus.
 
#440
reasonbass said:
Has anyone played or owned the Streamliner 600 and/or the Mesa M-Pulse 600? The Mesa M-Pulse had a great tube tone I wonder if the Benz matches it tone-wise.
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Yes. The Streamliner is much closer in voicing to the MPulse600 than the Walkabout. The Streamliner has that same, big tubey low end like the MPulse600, but has much more low mid punch and mid clarity, and a much sweeter top end. The Streamliner has a similar 'big, clean tube tone' like the Mpulse600, but is smaller, lighter, louder, and much more articulate through the midrange. IMO, if you liked the MPulse600, you will LOVE the Streamliner.

Per the above posts regarding the Walkabout, that head sounds quite different from both the Streamliner and MPulse600.... warmer, a very present midrange that always has some midrange distortion (in a good way), and more 'brightness' versus that crystal clear tube-like upper treble of the Streamliner. Both are great.
 
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