Genzler Amplification Club

[Eddie LeBlanc]

I really liked the Quilter for some things(its great with a P-Bass), but I just didn't find it versatile enough. It was OK with upright, while the Genzler sounds great. Also the DI, or lack thereof, on the Quilter was one of the major reasons I moved it as I just don't have the space for the REDDI on some of the stages I play, and a post master "DI" is just not ideal. After playing it for a couple of days, my only regret is not getting the 800 instead But the 350 has easily enough power for the work I do. I've got a show on Friday playing 60's/70's rock and R&B with a 4 piece band(and 6 singers), so that should be a pretty good trial!

I can agree with the "should have got the 800". My decision to get the 800 was based on using several different speaker cabinet set ups for differing gig situations. I am not a fan of always putting my rig into a PA to cover everything. In fact, I believe only in a large venue is that appropriate since the entire soundstage gets changed by the whims of the PA system tech. In small venues, I have never had anyone that seems to know "the you know what and and a hole in ground" when it comes to soundstage projection for a band, unless they have been dedicated part of the band. Personally I can't trust them to make my sound, sound like I want it to into the room. They always have their own ideas of what is right, and may not have my best interests at heart. BTW I've been playing for over 50 years.

I have several differing types cabinets I bring to gigs. And that is why I want the capability of the MG800. It can cover every option, with ease. One 12 inch, Two 12 inch, Two 10 inch, Three 10 inch, or what ever combination of those I need. But it has never let me down. Jeff knows his stuff.

 

[Bassworship1]

The Genzler 800 is the best head I've used and that's after trying TCRH450, Mesa 800 and 800+, and Aguilar AG700. It just gives the best tone no matter the venue and pairs great with all my Array Cabinets and other Cabinets as well. I've actually used just the DI out with no cabinet for many IEM gigs at some of the bigger churches. I tried it against some of the better DI's on the market and House engineers loved and asked for the Genzler DI to be used. I'm sold on my Genzler gear and have finally for the last year been gas free for other brands.

 

[SteveC]

The Genzler 800 is the best head I've used and that's after trying TCRH450, Mesa 800 and 800+, and Aguilar AG700. It just gives the best tone no matter the venue and pairs great with all my Array Cabinets and other Cabinets as well. I've actually used just the DI out with no cabinet for many IEM gigs at some of the bigger churches. I tried it against some of the better DI's on the market and House engineers loved and asked for the Genzler DI to be used. I'm sold on my Genzler gear and have finally for the last year been gas free for other brands.

I haven't played anything but Genz Benz/Genzler for a LONG time. The heads are simple to "dial in" and sound great. They are dependable, and if not, the CS is beyond amazing. The DI on my Shuttle 3.0 was as good as any DI out there. I can't imagine myself using anything else. Most of my work is DI/IEM so I use a small pedal board mostly, but for home practice and occasional jazz quartet gigs, my MG350 combo is the PERFECT mix of tone, volume and portability for me.

 

[AMJBASS]

Do you guys know if the DI set on "post" is post master, or just post EQ? I'd love to send an EQ'ed line for some of the gigs I do without changing the volume. I'll be DI'ing my next 2 gigs this weekend, but I'll keep it on pre as the FOH is pretty good.

 

[Bassworship1]

@AMJBASS

Post EQ is after your onboard mix sending to House. Sometimes that can cause the House to be over mixed unless you have a Sound Engineer that really knows what their doing.

 

[AMJBASS]

@AMJBASS

Sometimes that can cause the House to be over mixed unless you have a Sound Engineer that really knows what their doing.

I am aware I've done enough gigs/production shows/cruiseships/theater pits to know when to use post EQ! You definitely have to be careful as it can mess up a mix in a hurry. Some gigs however its helpful to send a post EQ'ed signal.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Do you guys know if the DI set on "post" is post master, or just post EQ? I'd love to send an EQ'ed line for some of the gigs I do without changing the volume. I'll be DI'ing my next 2 gigs this weekend, but I'll keep it on pre as the FOH is pretty good.

That would be post EQ and Pre Master Vol.

 

[AMJBASS]

That would be post EQ and Pre Master Vol.

Awesome! Exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks Jeff. Killer product!

 

[svtb15]

JUST POST EQ. NOT post Master. MAster remains totally independent

Do you guys know if the DI set on "post" is post master, or just post EQ? I'd love to send an EQ'ed line for some of the gigs I do without changing the volume. I'll be DI'ing my next 2 gigs this weekend, but I'll keep it on pre as the FOH is pretty good.

 

[Djadja]

I’m excited! I ordered my 350 combo and it was shipped today.

And I’m bummed... it’s due to arrive next Tuesday... when I’ll be out of town so I won’t be able to spend any time with it until about the 10th.

I’m really looking forward to comparing and contrasting the BA10-2 and the BA12-3, the MA800 & MA350, and trying the two cabs together.

 

[RNG1]

I can agree with the "should have got the 800". My decision to get the 800 was based on using several different speaker cabinet set ups for differing gig situations. I am not a fan of always putting my rig into a PA to cover everything. In fact, I believe only in a large venue is that appropriate since the entire soundstage gets changed by the whims of the PA system tech. In small venues, I have never had anyone that seems to know "the you know what and and a hole in ground" when it comes to soundstage projection for a band, unless they have been dedicated part of the band. Personally I can't trust them to make my sound, sound like I want it to into the room. They always have their own ideas of what is right, and may not have my best interests at heart. BTW I've been playing for over 50 years.

I have several differing types cabinets I bring to gigs. And that is why I want the capability of the MG800. It can cover every option, with ease. One 12 inch, Two 12 inch, Two 10 inch, Three 10 inch, or what ever combination of those I need. But it has never let me down. Jeff knows his stuff.

I agree with everything you say here. The only thing I run into in smaller rooms that the bass is not in FOH is thinking my bass is plenty loud enough on stage and yet with drums, guitars and vocals in the pa, I hate the feeling of playing an entire set and on break someone telling me the band sounds great but the bass could be louder. It’s impossible to know what it sounds like out front when you are behind the pa. I’ve been doing this a long time as well and the only time I was sure this was never going to be an issue was when I had an SVT amp and cabinet and I knew every corner of the room could hear me yet it never consumed the stage volume. That’s when I knew the multi driver design was the best. This precisely is what has me super intrigued about these array cabinets.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Used my MG800 and 10-2 stack on a gig last night. Easy peasy three song gig accompanying the senior choir(s) concert at a large local high school. (The choir director is a bud of mine and one of those stupid talented musicians.) Piano, bass, drums and up to 50 kids singing gospel inspired stuff. Fun music! Your typical kinda big high school auditorium.

First off, the kids were a-MAY-zing! Seriously. Dang. I'm always so impressed by the quality of music these kids put out.

Secondly, the Genzler rig was just sooooooo killin'. Volume-wise, I could have only one one little 10-2. But I went with the stack using the same volume as the single 10-2. It wasn't louder, just more full/luscious/kickin'/booty-ful. Used my stock setting: Drive at 9:00, Contour B at about 9:30, slight Bass and Treble roll-off, Mids at noon.

I'm GAS free as far as amps and cabs. Welll....Except for a third 10-2. But honestly, almost all my gigs are IEM or using my rig tilt-back-monitor style, so a third wouldn't be used that much. Heck, I rarely use the two 10-2's together! But GAS is GAS. Someday.....

Anyway, (another) shout out to @Jeff Genzler for, what I consider to be, "superior" bass products that aren't crazy expensive.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Used my MG800 and 10-2 stack on a gig last night. Easy peasy three song gig accompanying the senior choir(s) concert at a large local high school. (The choir director is a bud of mine and one of those stupid talented musicians.) Piano, bass, drums and up to 50 kids singing gospel inspired stuff. Fun music! Your typical kinda big high school auditorium.

First off, the kids were a-MAY-zing! Seriously. Dang. I'm always so impressed by the quality of music these kids put out.

Secondly, the Genzler rig was just sooooooo killin'. Volume-wise, I could have only one one little 10-2. But I went with the stack using the same volume as the single 10-2. It wasn't louder, just more full/luscious/kickin'/booty-ful. Used my stock setting: Drive at 9:00, Contour B at about 9:30, slight Bass and Treble roll-off, Mids at noon.

I'm GAS free as far as amps and cabs. Welll....Except for a third 10-2. But honestly, almost all my gigs are IEM or using my rig tilt-back-monitor style, so a third wouldn't be used that much. Heck, I rarely use the two 10-2's together! But GAS is GAS. Someday.....

Anyway, (another) shout out to @Jeff Genzler for, what I consider to be, "superior" bass products that aren't crazy expensive.

Thanks for the shout out. So glad these little rigs are getting the job done for those of you using them. Very satisfying.

 

[Mr. Business]

Dang it! Amp GAS has passed. Thank you Genzler. Cab GAS has taken over. Thank you Genzler. Daddy wants to try array 10s. BAD!

 

[AMJBASS]

Production show tonight. 60's 70's rock and dance stuff with a 4 piece band and a bunch of vocalists. I'll be using the new 350 with the DI to the house. I've played this room with a TH500, Quilter BB800, Gallien Krueger MB500 so far. Interested to see how the Genzler sits(and how the DI sounds compared to those!). I'll check in here after

 

[MattLplaysBass]

I searched and didn’t find anything, but has anyone added extra feet on the BA 12-3 opposite the strap handle? Probably going to have to drill for at least the front ones, just curious if any one has some guidance (like Jeff Genzler ).

 

[AMJBASS]

Production show tonight. 60's 70's rock and dance stuff with a 4 piece band and a bunch of vocalists. I'll be using the new 350 with the DI to the house. I've played this room with a TH500, Quilter BB800, Gallien Krueger MB500 so far. Interested to see how the Genzler sits(and how the DI sounds compared to those!). I'll check in here after

Just back in from the show. The Magellan 350 sounded growly, organic, and clear. What more do you want? Oh right, a pristine DI that sends a perfect signal to the FOH. I'm sold Although it didn't break a sweat(and the stage volume isn't particularly low for this show) I'm probably going to order the 800 soon anyway. I've owned way too much gear over the last several years, but I THINK this might be it. Its just ridiculously easy to get a great sound quickly.

 

[SteveC]

I played a pretty loud jazz/funk gig and thought I’d need more than my MG350 combo but I’m in no hurry to order even a 2nd BA10-2 yet.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

I searched and didn’t find anything, but has anyone added extra feet on the BA 12-3 opposite the strap handle? Probably going to have to drill for at least the front ones, just curious if any one has some guidance (like Jeff Genzler ).

I would use smaller feet than what are used on the bottom. Just tall enough to give you the protection you're looking for. You could use a screw that protrudes about 1/2" from the back of the foot for mounting.

 

[MattLplaysBass]

I would use smaller feet than what are used on the bottom. Just tall enough to give you the protection you're looking for. You could use a screw that protrudes about 1/2" from the back of the foot for mounting.

Cool- thanks!