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Genzler Amplification Club
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svtb15
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- Mar 22, 2004
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- I play it all. Whatever works for the gig. Q+
I have the same rig.. .LOVE IT!!. .I swear this BA 410 is as loud and punchy as a 610. .At least in my opinion..
I played a few outdoor gigs last year using only a single BA12-3 and had tremendous sound. Haven't been outdoors since I added an SLT cab. Did you get any comments from your band mates or peeps listening to your playing? Personally because of the clarity I find myself much more fusier. If that makes sense. I've had a few times where I was wrestling with my sound only to have audience members approach me and rave about my tone.
I have played a dozen or so outdoor gigs with the Mag and various cabs, including single, dual, or triple 12-3s. Never have a challenge getting a good tone. I just wonder if you had the impedance switch set correctly? Was it too boomy or trebly?
Too boomy. Impedance was at 4/8 where it should be. Thanks!
Quick question. Jazz player here. I have been very happy using a Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 but looking at the MG-350. Is it enough of a step up from the Shuttle series to be worth the cost? They seem eerily similar spec wise.
I had a Shuttle 3.0 for a number of years and positively loved it. I decided I wanted more power and went to a 9.0. I preferred the preamp of the 3.0 (can’t really tell you why at this point) but still was very happy with the 9.0. Then I upgraded my cab (an Acme B2) to the BA12-3 and was amazed at the difference. That positive experience inspired me a few months later to go to the Magellan 800 and sell my 9.0. The Magellan 800 is clearly reflective of the same general DNA but it feels more present and heftier in every register. It just seems to have more weight to the notes compared to the 9.0. The contour control is also really cool. I am thrilled with the Magellan 800 and feel that it was a clear upgrade over the 9.0. That upgrade is clearly worth the cash IMHO. Then about 6 or so months ago I decided to add the 350 combo. The 350 sounds and feels pretty much identical to the 800 at a lower power level. I sometimes think about downsizing and selling the 800 as the 350 does everything I want/need and sounds amazing and I don’t really need two heads. All of that doesn’t give a direct comparison between the 3.0 and the 350 since I preferred the 3.0 to the 9.0 but my gut says it is likely a real improvement from the 3.0 to the 350. You do also get the ability to run at 2.67 ohms with the 350 just in case you need to move a bit more air...
I took the Magellan 800 out on Friday and was planning on using the Streamliner 600 today, but the Magellan sounded so good I had to take it out again instead.
And the UBER's just plain rock as well.
And the UBER's just plain rock as well.
- Sep 3, 2006
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- Authorized dealer for Dingwall, Genzler, Phil Jones Bass, Cort, Traynor, Yorkville Sound
Was this a wooden outdoor stage? I have played a couple outdoor gigs with my MG800 and BA12-3 pair and did not experience this. I did try several basses as well but mostly My Cirrus and a NG2. Does sound strange that you couldn't cut the boomy. Although I DID play one strange auditorium gig wooden stage and the soundman had me unplug one speaker., but I didn't hear stage boominess - don't know what he heard out in the audience.
Thanks revroy, much appreciated! I know that the Shuttle 3.0 is specifically designed with an FET Pre-amp which may add to the warmth factor of those little amps. I do know it really handles upright well in addition to it's duties with the electric. Anyone else wanna chime in on the MG-350 vs the Shuttle 3.0? TIA
I also owned a Shuttle 3.0 for a number of years. I used it for headphone practice, home practice with a cabinet attached, band rehearsals and small gigs. Super reliable and had a really nice combination of warmth and clarity.
That shuttle 3.0 is a tough act to beat, but I think the MG350 is a significant upgrade. I don't know if the power module is the same, but the MG350 seems quite a bit louder. As others have described, the MG 350 (and 800) have a "girth" or fullness to the notes that just command respect. And yes, both of the contour curves are very useful.
I've used the MG350 to drive one BA10-2, a pair of BA10-2's, and a BA10-2 plus BA12-3SLT together. The MG350 has never shown any signs of stress and there's always been plenty more power on tap. I also have an MG800, and since I never use the overdrive channel, I can get by with the MG350 for pretty much all situations I run into. But no, I'm not selling the MG800!
I don't play upright, but I hear a lot of reports that the MG350/BA10-2 works great for that application.
I hope that helps...
Bob
I do play upright, about 10 percent of my gigs are on upright. And that is one reason I prefer the Mag head versus other Class D heads I have owned (Markbass, Aguilar, Mesa, and the Streamliner) over the past 10 years. All my basses, my DB included, sound great.
On stage I felt the same... out front though, it sat better in the mix. Next gig with the two 12-3’s, I may introduce some HPF and see how that sounds.
With all this talk about cabs here is another shot of the Magellan 800 used as a DI/PreAmp only. Sent Post with Drive at 11:00, Contour off and all else at noon.
This time pictured with my new Dingwall Bass from bebass at Sho Me Music. (He is also a Genzler Dealer.)
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This time pictured with my new Dingwall Bass from bebass at Sho Me Music. (He is also a Genzler Dealer.)
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@S-Bigbottom, your Dingwall looks sweet!!! I've been looking at those, but I've never pulled the trigger.
There's a nice write-up of Jeff Genzler in the current issue of BassPlayer magazine...check it out. Top-notch innovator and supplier of fine musical instrument amplification!
Bob
Bob
Thanks and DO IT!!!
They are very smooth players and the fanned frets are comfortable to play.
Now I think straight frets are weird.
Thanks and DO IT!!!
They are very smooth players and the fanned frets are comfortable to play.
Now I think straight frets are weird.
!! That might be my reaction to the fanned frets and I'd still have straight fret & fretless basses hanging around that I can't get rid of. 
