I noticed you have 3 ba10-2, have you gigged all 3 yet?
If so does the low end get a fair bit stouter adding the 3rd cab?
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If so does the low end get a fair bit stouter adding the 3rd cab?
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Here's part of my current setup: Brand new Magellan 350 Combo, Keeley Bassist compressor, '63 Jazz, '64 Jazz fretless, '57 P-Bass. Will have my first gig on Sunday with the fretless JB at a little cafe in San Francisco. Looking forward to testing the amp live. Love it for rehearsal so far!
Here's part of my current setup: Brand new Magellan 350 Combo, Keeley Bassist compressor, '63 Jazz, '64 Jazz fretless, '57 P-Bass. Will have my first gig on Sunday with the fretless JB at a little cafe in San Francisco. Looking forward to testing the amp live. Love it for rehearsal so far!
I’ve used all three twice. I felt it was pretty much the same as using two. Just louder.
Now that I think about it, that makes sense - the design goal is excellent dispersion of a broad range of frequencies.I’ve used all three twice. I felt it was pretty much the same as using two. Just louder.
Adding more cabs just adds across the bandwidth equally & the balance of the frequencies doesn't change.
Bought the Genzler Magellan 800 a couple months ago used but in like new condition from the classifieds ads on talkbass to replace my Hartke 3000 head. I had been sidelined from playing gigs since 2011 due to back surgery and not being able to transport my old rig. I can't lift anything over around 25 lbs and wanted to go as light as possible. I was itching to get back to playing gigs and decided to go the class D amp head route. My plan was to use a class d head with light weight speaker cabinets. I wanted as much speaker surface as possible and wanted to go module so I could use whatever speaker configurations the venues called for. I also wanted a head that would handle a 2.67 ohm load so I could use 3 lightweight speaker cabs. So I am running the Genzler 800 with 3 ampeg svt-210 AV cabinets that only weigh 26 lbs apiece. I can use 1,2, or 3 cabs depending on the venue. I play mostly blues music and some americana, so I use the drive channel on about 3 to emulate a vintage tube driven sound. I am back playing professinally and so far have used the rig for 2 festival shows, and 2 club gigs. Sorry to be so wordy but I really love the amp head! Best sounding head I have owned since my old musicman 130 watt bass head and much lighter. I am requesting a number to join the club. Mr. Genzler you hit a home run with the Magellan 800 sir!
Hey all...looking for some comments/thoughts/ideas...
Thinking of adding a third cabinet for volume in a loud band. Also for ear-level extension and damn, it looks so cool. I have (2) 12-3 cabs (non slant).
The obvious choice is a slant 12-3 which is the front runner now. But I’m also thinking about either a single 10 or 210. The single 10 would be nice for those very small gigs or practice situations that just don’t need a lot of volume. It would obvisouly sit on top of the 2 12s. I like the idea of a light, easily transported single cabinet. 2nd place now.
I could also add a 210 which would sit on the bottom. This would really provide a pretty massive sound I’m thinking which would be cool but maybe it’s the wrong setup for a number of reasons.
OK, have at it with thoughts and hopefully experience. Thanks as always!
—David
P.S. Also looking to sell my nearly new G&L USA MJ-4. Beautiful instrument, just not right for me. If anyone is interested please PM me.
Thinking of adding a third cabinet for volume in a loud band. Also for ear-level extension and damn, it looks so cool. I have (2) 12-3 cabs (non slant).
The obvious choice is a slant 12-3 which is the front runner now. But I’m also thinking about either a single 10 or 210. The single 10 would be nice for those very small gigs or practice situations that just don’t need a lot of volume. It would obvisouly sit on top of the 2 12s. I like the idea of a light, easily transported single cabinet. 2nd place now.
I could also add a 210 which would sit on the bottom. This would really provide a pretty massive sound I’m thinking which would be cool but maybe it’s the wrong setup for a number of reasons.
OK, have at it with thoughts and hopefully experience. Thanks as always!
—David
P.S. Also looking to sell my nearly new G&L USA MJ-4. Beautiful instrument, just not right for me. If anyone is interested please PM me.
Since nobody else has chimed in...
The Genzler cabs are all so freakin' good it is not an easy decision. I have one 12-3 and one 10-2 and love them both separately and together. (I also have one of each of the heads.) I regularly go through times of GAS when I think about selling my 800 and 12-3 and getting two more 10-2's... or selling the combo and getting a slant 12-3... or selling the 800 and getting one additional 10-2... or saving and getting all of the above... all while I don't need any of the changes and love what I currently have which meets more than all my needs.
My first response is the BA10-2... since it brings something slightly different but equally cool to the party. It is amazing by itself and plays very nicely with the 12-3. You'd have significantly more flexibility. I've found the 210-3 to be the least tempting to me because of the footprint and low height. YMMV. I've not played one but imagine it to be equally amazing as its siblings.
My only fear re: the 110-2 is your purpose of a loud band. It would be getting the same amount of power as the 12's and may struggle a bit if you're really pushing things. Not knowing exactly what "loud" means in your setting that would be my concern.
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(loud band) I think your obvious front runner choice is the one to go for. Three 12-3 cabs play really nice together. If you went with a 110-2 you would need to remember, as mentioned by revroy, that it gets the same power as each of the 12's. I play through two 12-3s and if I felt like I needed anything more you can safely bet that is the exact route I would go.
I usually set to noon on both volume levels (MG800) and drive my bass (active usually) to about a little over halfway. So that's my volume that generally keeps up with a loud drummer and two loud guitar players.
I'd love to see a picture of a 10-2 on top of a 12-3 or two 12-3s. Does it look funky? I won't lie and say that aesthetics don't matter...they do.
Thanks for the comments so far!
I have an outdoor gig coming up next week & I’m going to use my MG 212 with a BA 112 - should be good! I know - different grills & I’m usually OCD about matching cabs, but I’ll get over it
Me too!!
Of course, after starting this reply, I immediately realized that I make this statement, unlike you, without the benefit of having played any of the other versions of the array cabs. But in response to anyone who would question my conclusion without having any other information to support it, I will quote the immortal words of Tiny Tim in the version of Christmas Carol with Alistair Sim: "I don't know. I just think it." 
Just to be clear: I find a big diff going from one to two cabs. More bottom/clear highs. Three is the same as two stacked just louder. YMMV, IMO, etc etc etc.
Hope I did this right great vid of BA 413 with BA 210 on top. Sounds good to me.
That Warwick Hellborg pre and power amp he's playing through is supposed to be AWESOMELY transparent, so may be...
another brother rocking a 2x stack last night
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Speaking of outdoor gigs, I could not get a good tone outdoors yesterday. Any suggestions? I tried dialing up mids, A/B contours...nothing seemed to get the sound right. Any advice from you art and wine festival vets? I had no PA reinforcement...just 2 12-3s and the MG800.
