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Genzler Amplification Club

#5,681
SteveC said:
I appreciate the suggestions for the BA12-3 as a 2nd cab to take when needed. I did have one and found it just a but awkward to carry. I suppose the new design with the handle on top takes care of that.
Still, I think a 2nd 10 is the way for me. I like 10's. I had the Shuttle stack and loved it. I only switched because Jeff told me that some of what I was hearing that I didn't love in my Shuttle cabs would be different in the BA cabs. He said that if I were using the Shuttle 10's that the BA 10's would give me what I want and keep the portability factor that I loved about my Shuttle rig. He was right. Even with just the one cab the sound is amazing. I think with 2 I'll get myself really close to what I want. It won't have quite the "heft" of some larger rigs, but if I've been basically happy with the combo (until the recent "day of the giant rigs" incident) at past gigs, I'm pretty sure getting a additional cab will go a long way to getting me there while staying very portable. I also like that with the 2 cabs stacked - both with the built in slant - the top cab will be pretty much pointing up at me so I will be able to hear it a little better than my combo on the floor or a chair or whatever.

Initially, I went MG800 and BA12-3. It ended up being more than I wanted/needed to carry around. Jeff initially said to get the combo and extra cab and I'd be VERY happy. He hasn't lead me astray yet. I should have listened to him initially. Story of my life. Always taking the long way around to get to the destination.
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I have wrestled with the "which #2 cab" question as well. I had the 12-3 when I got the 10-2, love both cabs - each of which has slightly different strengths, rarely need more than one and 95% of the time either one would be enough... I do prefer the heft of the 12-3 but the scale-ability of the 10-2 is amazing and it certainly is not a slouch of a cab in any way... I haven't played 2 10-2's but assume the heft from the little stack would be similar or at least close to the single 12-3. OTOH, the flexibility of two different cabs that play nicely together...
So, I have considered selling the 12-3 and replacing it with another 10-2. I ended up going with flexibility and variety of choices given that I usually only use one cab anyway. When I do use two, I get the added heft of the 12...
 
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#5,683
SteveC said:
Total makes sense.
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Now if I had to schlep the entire rig more often... that may push the decision in a different direction.

As I think outloud (or on the screen), schlepping two cabs of any size is always a bit more than just one perhaps even if the single is a little larger so, in the instance where a little more heft is needed, I might find myself preferring the schlep of a single 12-3 vs. 2 10-2's... but I haven't tried the latter so...
 
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Right. 2 small cabs or 1 slightly larger and heavier cab. I also like the verticality of stacking the 2 10's. I wish Jeff would do a vertical 210 - like the old Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0-210T.
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Stacking a pair of BA10-2's is my solution for this. I guess the angle of each cab will make the top cab be more pointing at my head so that's cool. And 2 small cabs are an easy tote.
 
#5,687
SteveC said:
Right. 2 small cabs or 1 slightly larger and heavier cab. I also like the verticality of stacking the 2 10's. I wish Jeff would do a vertical 210 - like the old Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0-210T.
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Stacking a pair of BA10-2's is my solution for this. I guess the angle of each cab will make the top cab be more pointing at my head so that's cool. And 2 small cabs are an easy tote.
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I would totally dig this and if you make it a 4 ohm cab, then you have many combinations to choose from: The tall 2-10 with a 4 ohm load for max power in a single cab. The tall 2-10 and a 1-10 at 8 ohms stacked to totally max out the 350 at 2.67 ohms. Or use a single 1-10 or 2 stacked 1-10’s. Only thing you don’t get is stacking two of the 2-10, 4 ohm cabs. I could live with that given all the other combinations.

And the tall 2-10 with that sweet tweet array running down the full height of the cab......
 
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@SteveC, or anybody else considering a second cab to go with their 10-2: A second (or third) is quite nice.

Most of my gigs are IEM but when I DO need backline I really enjoy using my 10-2 stack. The lows are pretty near perfect in that they are full but not muddy. Notes jump out of the cabs and right hand nuances/touch are instantly conveyed.

I love the little 10-2. I've got three but have only used all of them at the same time once or twice. Honestly, I should have stopped at two. But...Wellll….You know....
 
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Looking for love in all the wrong places!!
The Genzler 350 Combo stacked on a BA12-3 for small/medium gigs; the MG800 with the BA410-3 for larger venue/outdoor gigs!
All you have to worry about from there are what bass to play with what strings hanging from which strap and are you in sync with the drummer when playing! :thumbsup:
 
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markOmatic said:
Looking for an opinion, I'm considering the Magellan 2x12. I'd be using a GK 700rb II for now. Good combination?
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@markOmatic ---- Thanks for considering out MG-212T cab. If you care about my 2 cents, I think the MG-212T would be a good match for the 700RBII. That being said, the MG-212T will certainly handle a more powerful amp but it is a very efficient cabinet so you'll hear and feel every watt that amp puts out into 4 ohms. I'm not sure of the type of music you're playing but the MG-212T has a huge tonal footprint, and nice "throaty" mids, with the sparkle on top. I refer to it as our "rock-box" but surprisingly a couple of our artists use it for complete different genre's. Doug Johns "funk master" loves it for his tone. Mike Frost does a lot more higher energy jazz gigs and loves this cab for that use as well.
Just some info for you to consider.
 
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Djadja said:
I have wrestled with the "which #2 cab" question as well. I had the 12-3 when I got the 10-2, love both cabs - each of which has slightly different strengths, rarely need more than one and 95% of the time either one would be enough... I do prefer the heft of the 12-3 but the scale-ability of the 10-2 is amazing and it certainly is not a slouch of a cab in any way... I haven't played 2 10-2's but assume the heft from the little stack would be similar or at least close to the single 12-3. OTOH, the flexibility of two different cabs that play nicely together...
So, I have considered selling the 12-3 and replacing it with another 10-2. I ended up going with flexibility and variety of choices given that I usually only use one cab anyway. When I do use two, I get the added heft of the 12...
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Coming from one who has owned 3 of the 12-3's and 2 od the 210-3 arrays. My stack of 2 10-2 arrays is far superior to using just 1 of the 12-3 arrays in every way. I've used a single 12-3 array many times as they are just killer cabs but the stack of 2 10-2's is on another level in every way. I've played 4-5000 seat venues with my mini stack and the sound engineers are blown away every time.
 
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Updated roster - May 22nd, 2019

As usual, please PM if you'd like to join (preferably ASAP while I can still edit this post).

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Jeff Genzler said:
@markOmatic ---- Thanks for considering out MG-212T cab. If you care about my 2 cents, I think the MG-212T would be a good match for the 700RBII. That being said, the MG-212T will certainly handle a more powerful amp but it is a very efficient cabinet so you'll hear and feel every watt that amp puts out into 4 ohms. I'm not sure of the type of music you're playing but the MG-212T has a huge tonal footprint, and nice "throaty" mids, with the sparkle on top. I refer to it as our "rock-box" but surprisingly a couple of our artists use it for complete different genre's. Doug Johns "funk master" loves it for his tone. Mike Frost does a lot more higher energy jazz gigs and loves this cab for that use as well.
Just some info for you to consider.
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Hi Jeff, Thanks for the 2 cents! I'm a classic rock guy so sounds like the 212 is what I'm looking for. Thanks again!
 
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