It will stack perfectly with your current rig and is slightly tighter on the bottom giving you ample tonal variation
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You don't think a 210 might add something to what the 12's are already doing? I know there is some debate that using the same size drivers provides something better than mixing and matching, but not sure if that's really settled at this point.
If you want a single cab option the 210’s would be awesome. The single 210 could also pair with the 12-3 but maybe not as well ( I haven’t tried so...) if you want more punch - it’s all right there on the front panel- most of us are running everything at noon ‘cause it sounds great there. Recently I’ve cranked the low mids a little and wow does it cut through and slap your chest - try freq at 9:00 and mid boost at 3:00 bam lots and lots of punch. Plus you still have the low extension the 10’s just don’t play in.
As always different strokes ymmv yada yada yada.
If you get a chance since you’ve got a dealer nearby- give er a test drive. (And please report back
)
As always different strokes ymmv yada yada yada.
If you get a chance since you’ve got a dealer nearby- give er a test drive. (And please report back
)
I have 3 12-3’s (1 slant and 2 straights with the side handles). It’s not lacking in punch. Plus it’s flexible (can take a slant and a straight and mix and match with positioning).
I know @Spfairchild got rid of a 12 for a 210, maybe he could chime in... in @tombowlus ‘ review of the 10s vs 12s, he said they were more similar than not... or so I remember...
I know @Spfairchild got rid of a 12 for a 210, maybe he could chime in... in @tombowlus ‘ review of the 10s vs 12s, he said they were more similar than not... or so I remember...
If you want a single cab option the 210’s would be awesome. The single 210 could also pair with the 12-3 but maybe not as well ( I haven’t tried so...) if you want more punch - it’s all right there on the front panel- most of us are running everything at noon ‘cause it sounds great there. Recently I’ve cranked the low mids a little and wow does it cut through and slap your chest - try freq at 9:00 and mid boost at 3:00 bam lots and lots of punch. Plus you still have the low extension the 10’s just don’t play in.
As always different strokes ymmv yada yada yada.
If you get a chance since you’ve got a dealer nearby- give er a test drive. (And please report back
Interesting suggestions.. I'll give the mid-boost a try next jam. Unfortunately this dealer isn't really close enough to make casual visits an option - mostly due to the $160 roundtrip on the ferry in the middle.
Is that how you are setting for the 3rd at drums and flats?If you want a single cab option the 210’s would be awesome. The single 210 could also pair with the 12-3 but maybe not as well ( I haven’t tried so...) if you want more punch - it’s all right there on the front panel- most of us are running everything at noon ‘cause it sounds great there. Recently I’ve cranked the low mids a little and wow does it cut through and slap your chest - try freq at 9:00 and mid boost at 3:00 bam lots and lots of punch. Plus you still have the low extension the 10’s just don’t play in.
As always different strokes ymmv yada yada yada.
If you get a chance since you’ve got a dealer nearby- give er a test drive. (And please report back
Also did you ever make your way to the Guitar shop in Mississauga? I think they still have the old style 210-3. Played it solo and did find less of a bottom presence.
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This is always a hard question to answer. I personally don't usually mix cabs, more an OCD thing more than tone. I will say that if you choose the BA12-3 SLT you would have more stacking and dispersion options. And the LF of the Slant is different than the straights you have. I think this variation will offer a little more "punch" than the slightly more deep straight cabs. With a little EQ bump as Steve mentioned might be just the ticket.
Let us know which way you're leaning.
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I agree...not lacking in punch.
Jeff hints at this, but do consider the actual array with the three 12-3 cabs. All your mid drivers are aligned producing an array of mid/highs that are amazing, and 3 coupled 12's are WOW. I don't think you will be missing punch - add a bit of EQ if needed. I have played through all the combinations and while there is no wrong combination, the acoustics optimizations support the idea of the vast array with the 3 BA12-3 cabs. And make it a slant, giving you an array of 12's.
2x10 size is 16″ H x 23″ W x 18″ D
12 SLT size is 16″ H x 19″ W x 18″ D
The 2x10 is wider that the other two cabs, that is wonky to me.
But you could put it on the bottom and enjoy.
Yeah, I would definitely put it on the bottom if I were going to go that route.
Hey folks! A couple months back, I mentioned that I recorded a DIY EP with my band using the DI from the MG800...one bass track, no mic’d cab, direct blend, reamping, etc. One take for each song. No click tracks, just old school DIY hardcore. Here are the four tracks. We would have been done months ago, but our drummer injured his back pretty badly, so that put us on hold. Right now, the tracks are on SoundCloud and bandcamp. We’ve submitted them to Spotify and Apple Music, we’re just waiting for them to post.
The signal chain is as follows:
‘62 AVRI jazz bass wearing D’Addario Nickel 45-105>Darkglass B7K always on for drive>MG800 direct out post EQ. I goosed the lows and low mids just a touch on the B7k and the MG800, and I ran the modern contour just a bit at 9pm. Everything else was neutral.
Outro in first and second tracks feature a Fuzzrocious Rat King/Cat King for that extra push. And the outro for track 3 features a Fuzzrocious Grey Stache for extra narsty.
Edit-also some Grey Stache in track one at about 2:10ish.
Again, this represents a minimalist approach to hardcore punk/metal. You’re gonna hear some rawness to the tracks, some wandering timing, and just overall roughness around the edges. I’m proud of it. We consist of a doctor, two tech guys, a teacher (me), and a sanitation worker, all homeowners with families, all former touring musicians just looking to have fun!
The signal chain is as follows:
‘62 AVRI jazz bass wearing D’Addario Nickel 45-105>Darkglass B7K always on for drive>MG800 direct out post EQ. I goosed the lows and low mids just a touch on the B7k and the MG800, and I ran the modern contour just a bit at 9pm. Everything else was neutral.
Outro in first and second tracks feature a Fuzzrocious Rat King/Cat King for that extra push. And the outro for track 3 features a Fuzzrocious Grey Stache for extra narsty.
Edit-also some Grey Stache in track one at about 2:10ish.
Again, this represents a minimalist approach to hardcore punk/metal. You’re gonna hear some rawness to the tracks, some wandering timing, and just overall roughness around the edges. I’m proud of it. We consist of a doctor, two tech guys, a teacher (me), and a sanitation worker, all homeowners with families, all former touring musicians just looking to have fun!
Hardcore isn't usually a genre that I get super into, but I'm liking this quite a bit. Great recordings and nicely produced. Bass sounds great
My band is in the midst of recording our first record and I'm very much looking forward to sharing it with the group whenever it finally materializes.
Hardcore isn't usually a genre that I get super into, but I'm liking this quite a bit. Great recordings and nicely produced. Bass sounds great
My band is in the midst of recording our first record and I'm very much looking forward to sharing it with the group whenever it finally materializes.
Thank you for the positive feedback, it means a lot from an esteemed member such as yourself. I’m looking forward to hearing your band when it’s all wrapped up!
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@flyingfinbar --- I gotta say that this is an excellent recording and your tone really holds this tune together. I like the few places we can hear your driven tone on its own - holding together really well. Really tight band.
You sure you don't want to change your name to: "Homeowners with Families, Blow'n Off Steam"?
Thanks so much for sharing. Its good do show that the MG-800 can deliver with this tone as well.
Thanks so much, Jeff! Your product let’s me do more...infinitely so... with so much less (that SVT got heavier as I got older, I swear), and I appreciate it tremendously.
At our first show, every other act was rolling in with big lead sleds and all your classic heavy stuff. As soon as I began sound checking, every other bass players’...and a few guitar players’...heads turned!
The bass features prominently on tracks 3&4...can you tell which ones I wrote?
To all, I appreciate the support. It does mean so much more from other bass players and individuals that I respect.
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Haha, funny you say that. He’s the Dr., has his own family practice. After tracking vocals, his voice was scratchy and it happened to be at the end of cold season, so he just kinda went along with that at work.
