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dave_bass5 said:
Thanks, very helpful. I'm using a Fearless F112 which is pretty clear anyway, and although h'vintage' can work for me its not something I'm aiming for. Nor bright and clear either though. A bit of both, as and when is good.
Got a rehearsal on Monday, if it doesn't work then ill send it back and get the Magellan.
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I agree with the rumble 500 comparison. I haven’t tried the 800. Sounds like the Magellan would be a better fit for you. For me, it’s no contest. The Genzler kills the rumble.
 
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Yeah I didn't get the Quilter because it lacked a good DI and no drive channel. You can get natural overdrive out of the Quilter but I thought it sounded bad. Like a plastic/cheap overdrive pedal. Clean, it sounds decent but if I can spend $100 more used (Reverb prices) and get a Magellan 800 well...

Was able to get a Magellan 800 with gig bag in mint condition for $600 or 455.94 pounds.
 
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The Editor said:
Yeah I didn't get the Quilter because it lacked a good DI and no drive channel. You can get natural overdrive out of the Quilter but I thought it sounded bad. Like a plastic/cheap overdrive pedal. Clean, it sounds decent but if I can spend $100 more used (Reverb prices) and get a Magellan 800 well...

Was able to get a Magellan 800 with gig bag in mint condition for $600 or 455.94 pounds.
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Must admit I had some good tones out of it, but it was not what i would call open and exciting.
I got the Fender today and quite impressed with it. If it doesn't work for me on Monday i have a used Magellan lined up.
 
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Received the Genzler Magellan 800 today from Bass Gear Direct in Australia (cheers George) - replaced a dodgy Eden WT550 (another thread, another story) - had an hour or so to play with it - first impressions are very very good.

Playing into an 8 Ohm Eden D410XST (400W from amp) - loads of power, clean channel is pristine but full sounding and the contour control works beautifully as described by many reviewers. Unlike the Enhance control on Eden amps, the contour has lots of usable positions on the dial, and the tone never seems to get lost in both modern and vintage settings.
Drive channel is perfect for me - tubey through to a growl which gets throatier as you dig in. Very nice and 'musical' too - doesn't get into Darkglass territory but we knew that! Very responsive EQ section.
So, believe the hype!! - great amp, beautiful/solid construction and lovely punchy bass tones straight out the box with minimal tweaking

One unexpected feature - the Aux In!
I've been trying to sell my Eden Navigator WP100B preamp as I thought I'd have no need for it after buying the Genzler and I was looking to give away the 4U rack pre/power amp heavy lifting!
Plugged the WP100 into the Aux channel by way of experiment - this acts like a 3rd channel if I use an A/B switcher pedal...Ch A in to the Eden Pre plugged into 'Aux In' on the Genzler and Ch B plugged straight into the Genzler.
The tone from the Eden is not affected by the contour or eq section of the Genzler only using the Class D power section of the unit - same great punch as the Genzler tones. Wow!!!
So effectively I get the Eden tone that I lost with the stuffed WT550 and the Genzler clean and dirty channels too! Will need a latching pedal to jump between the Genzler channels, but that's a $40AUD pedal

Caveat re Aux In - just read that Aux bypasses DI output, only goes through speaker outs...must check that out!

All this and I'm only a couple of hours in with Genzler - great amp, great tone.
 
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Oh sorry, i loved the Fender so sticking with that. I don't know how it compares to the Genz, but its ticking all the right boxes for considerably less money.
I have no doubt the Genz would also tick the boxes, but i don’t see the point in spending more money. Saying that, things might change in the future. I'd still love a Genz, i just feel I should stick with what works for now.
 
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Joeykun said:
Been on a 2 week break. Back at it tonight in Portland, ME at a high tech venue called AURA.
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Here’s a stage shot from the balcony.
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Sound check at tonight’s show at Blue Ocean Music Hall in Salisbury, MA. The green room over looks the Atlantic. Beautiful venue!

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LOVE this rig! I'm part of the way there, I have a BA410. Is your BA210 an STR or an SLT? I'm trying to decide which one I want. Most of my rig is in a rack that's usually on the floor next to my cab, so I'm not super concerned about stuff sliding off the cabs, but that could change. Also curious as to why the 210 on the bottom?

Great rig! Well played, sir!
 
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pbass6811 said:
LOVE this rig! I'm part of the way there, I have a BA410. Is your BA210 an STR or an SLT? I'm trying to decide which one I want. Also curious as to why the 210 on the bottom?
Great rig! Well played, sir!
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Thanks! It’s a BA210-3 SLT. The SLT on the bottom gives the entire rig a slight tilt back that’s perfect for hearing what these cabs produce. I’ve tried the 210 on top. But, the rig sounds better in full tilt mode! I highly recommend it!
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Has anybody done a direct comparison between the 12-3 and the mg12T-V? There's only about $100 difference between the two. I've heard the 12-3 and was very impressed, but can't find anyone near me with the 12T-V. Also, the 350 would be the amp I'd likely use. I'd love to hear from people who have been fortunate enough to play through both cabinets. TIA
 
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Hey all...I'm playing a lot more loud rock these days with little (no) support from PA/FoH. Bar stuff with loud Marshalls.

I'm finding my two 12-3s don't cut through as much as I would like. Might just be me (always open to a little self introspection). I'm thinking of a 410 + 210 solution. Has anyone gone from the 12s to the 10s and might be able to provide some insight? I'm not planning on keeping 4 cabinets but like a small tote around so I might want to either keep a 12 or get a single 10 as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

--David
 
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dwellers said:
Hey all...I'm playing a lot more loud rock these days with little (no) support from PA/FoH. Bar stuff with loud Marshalls.

I'm finding my two 12-3s don't cut through as much as I would like. Might just be me (always open to a little self introspection). I'm thinking of a 410 + 210 solution. Has anyone gone from the 12s to the 10s and might be able to provide some insight? I'm not planning on keeping 4 cabinets but like a small tote around so I might want to either keep a 12 or get a single 10 as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

--David
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Which also leads me to the inevitable, is anyone interested in a 2 x 12-3 trade/cash for a 410 and 210?
 
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dwellers said:
Hey all...I'm playing a lot more loud rock these days with little (no) support from PA/FoH. Bar stuff with loud Marshalls.

I'm finding my two 12-3s don't cut through as much as I would like. Might just be me (always open to a little self introspection). I'm thinking of a 410 + 210 solution. Has anyone gone from the 12s to the 10s and might be able to provide some insight? I'm not planning on keeping 4 cabinets but like a small tote around so I might want to either keep a 12 or get a single 10 as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

--David
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I had 3 x 12-3s.
I sold one and a bass, and bought a 410-3.
For me and my stuff, two 12-3s, or a single 410 is enough. I don't play with stupid loud people. Too old for that.
I have played the 410 and one 12-3 in an outdoor setting, and it was marvelous (as I would suppose, would be the modular 6 X 10 (410 plus 210).
 
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dwellers said:
I'm finding my two 12-3s don't cut through as much as I would like. I'm thinking of a 410 + 210 solution. --David
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Are use using a Magellan 800? If so, why not add a BA12-3 SLT to run 3 cabs @ 800 watts / 2.67ohm.

I prefer 10’s and can tell you a BA410-3 & BA210-3 SLT stack will cut through anything with authority!
 
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dwellers said:
Hey all...I'm playing a lot more loud rock these days with little (no) support from PA/FoH. Bar stuff with loud Marshalls.

I'm finding my two 12-3s don't cut through as much as I would like. Might just be me (always open to a little self introspection). I'm thinking of a 410 + 210 solution. Has anyone gone from the 12s to the 10s and might be able to provide some insight? I'm not planning on keeping 4 cabinets but like a small tote around so I might want to either keep a 12 or get a single 10 as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

--David
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I say grab another 12-3/12-3SLT. I’ve got three 10-2’s with a MG800 and they are LOUD! Three 12-3’s would be even more LOUDERER.
 
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Yeah, I was thinking too, like those above, that you may benefit from another cabinet... Go down to 2 ohms.

I recall with my first Genzler setup, the combo, that I couldn't hear it among two guitarists in a Rock setting. Listening back to a recording from a single mic in the room I could pick it out. Two things then, one, just because you can't hear it doesn't mean the crowd can't. And two, I bought 2 12-3's to go under the combo and I can now hear myself.

But in the event you decide to go with a different setup I might take a 12-3 off your hands. We can take it to PM's if so.
 
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My situation is different so I don’t know that my opinion matters. I don’t need a ridiculously loud amp. I have the MG Tall 12 with a 350. It's all the sound I need for my gigs. I used to have a BA12-3 but not at the same time so I can’t compare. I’ve never had my amp past 1/2 but I’m playing jazz gigs. I know I can push my B strong through this rig no problem. I play outside often with it. I can actually feel my bass with this combo.Pretty nice.
 
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