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I've been casually considering the BA15-3 SLT. Because it's still relatively new I haven't seen a lot of first-hand reports online, but I also haven't followed this thread. Does anyone have experience with it they can share?

Also, does anyone know of more detailed specs than what's on the Genzler site? I'm primarily interested in the F3.
 
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I felt the same way. I had no idea what F3 was so I hesitated in responding. If Lucas 303 just scrolls back through a dozen or so pages he's sure to see comments about the BA15-3 from numerous owners. I have said it before, I purchased my BA12-3 right at the time the 15 was introduced and while I'm sure it's nothing short of incredible, I'm so over the moon with my 800/12-3 that there's no room for regrets about the 15. Nevertheless, if you want a 15, I can't imagine a more capable one than the Genzler. Plus, because of it's footprint, it enables you to add either a BA210-3 or a BA410-3 to really bring thunder to any room you might play. Just ask Joeykun.
 
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LukiLaci said:
Has any information about wireing difference of BA15 and BA12?

I read the BA series run out middle range when has 3 pcs of the cabs.
I has only 1 pc of BA12 slt, it has very different middel/high range sound as other 12" cabs.

As i remember, in BA15 the 15" speaker is full range, the 12" is cut in the crossover.
As see in Faital website, 15 and 12 " speaker similar fq,
has any experience wireing the BA12 similar as BA15?
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Jeff can weigh in, but I don't think there are any wiring differences between the BA12-3 and BA15-3. The woofers don't run full range. They both have 6 dB/octave crossovers at 800 Hz to transition from the 12" or 15" woofer to the 3" array. 6 dB/octave provides a gentle slope for a smooth transition with minimum phase change - innovative and effective.
Bass Array 12-3 SLANT - Genzler Amplification
Bass Array 15-3 SLT - Genzler Amplification
That 15-3 demo video with Mel Brown is one of the best I've seen to showcase a bass cabinet. The audio quality is excellent and it shows a wide range of styles played and mixed well.

Holdsg said:
Genzler site has all specs I seem to need.
I don't know what F3 means.
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For bass cabs, F3 and F10 are used to describe the low end frequency response. As frequency is reduced, F3 is the frequency that is -3dB down and indicates where the response starts to noticeably fall off. F10 is the frequency that is -10dB down and typically indicates the lower useable limit of that cabinet (some vendors may use -12dB which is 1/4 power). Significant power at less than that frequency should be avoided since it won't be audible but can damage the driver. ​
 
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3rdcurve said:
BA15-3 SLT = great

2 x BA15-3 SLT = GREATER
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BA210-3 & BA15-3 SLT = GREATER-ER?

I’m not up on that F3 stuff either. But, I have ears and have used the BA15-3 SLT by itself, with the BA210-3 SLT and the BA410-3 all with amazing results.

The cab by itself is not like your average 15. It has more punch and definition to notes but still has that big round bottom. I’ll let Jeff chime in with the design specs. But, go back a few pages. There are a bunch of us that have this cab and we all agree on how great it is!!
 
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Joeykun said:
BA210-3 & BA15-3 SLT = GREATER-ER?

I’m not up on that F3 stuff either. But, I have ears and have used the BA15-3 SLT by itself, with the BA210-3 SLT and the BA410-3 all with amazing results.

The cab by itself is not like your average 15. It has more punch and definition to notes but still has that big round bottom. I’ll let Jeff chime in with the design specs. But, go back a few pages. There are a bunch of us that have this cab and we all agree on how great it is!!
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Totally agree. I had 2 x 12-3s and traded out (won't say up) to a 15 and 210. It simply gave me more versatility of tone and volume than 2 12s did. But having played Jeff's 10, 12 and 15, both amps, in many combinations, I can safely say there isn't a product in the lineup I wouldn't be completely happy owning. Space and budget prevent that but there isn't a clinker in the bunch. Quite the contrary, too much goodness made it hard to choose! That's why you'll see so much praise and pleasure of ownership of Genzler gear here and elsewhere.

The bottom line for me was that I've come to love the extension (top and bottom) of the driver combination I have now. I don't see me moving away from that anytime soon (famous last words).
 
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5StringPocket said:
Jeff can weigh in, but I don't think there are any wiring differences between the BA12-3 and BA15-3. The woofers don't run full range. They both have 6 dB/octave crossovers at 800 Hz to transition from the 12" or 15" woofer to the 3" array. 6 dB/octave provides a gentle slope for a smooth transition with minimum phase change - innovative and effective.
Bass Array 12-3 SLANT - Genzler Amplification
Bass Array 15-3 SLT - Genzler Amplification
That 15-3 demo video with Mel Brown is one of the best I've seen to showcase a bass cabinet. The audio quality is excellent and it shows a wide range of styles played and mixed well.


For bass cabs, F3 and F10 are used to describe the low end frequency response. As frequency is reduced, F3 is the frequency that is -3dB down and indicates where the response starts to noticeably fall off. F10 is the frequency that is -10dB down and typically indicates the lower useable limit of that cabinet (some vendors may use -12dB which is 1/4 power). Significant power at less than that frequency should be avoided since it won't be audible but can damage the driver. ​
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THANKS for informations
 
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dwellers said:
I had 2 x 12-3s and traded out (won't say up) to a 15 and 210. It simply gave me more versatility of tone and volume than 2 12s did. But having played Jeff's 10, 12 and 15, both amps, in many combinations, I can safely say there isn't a product in the lineup I wouldn't be completely happy owning. Space and budget prevent that but there isn't a clinker in the bunch. Quite the contrary, too much goodness made it hard to choose!
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As I GAS for another 10-2 or a 12-3/800 head I realized that acquiring either scenario would not be an improvement over my 350 combo, just another great choice. And I agree, it's all good so I have a hard time choosing!
 
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lucas303 said:
@Jeff Genzler what is the F3 of the BA15-3 SLT?
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Hello @lucas303, I appreciate your interest in our products. As for your question, the F3 (-3dB) point is approx 48 Hz and we use a +/- 10dB frequency range.
Obviously the usable frequency range is way below that point, offering exceptionally strong support of the B-string of premium instruments.
 
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LukiLaci said:
Has any difference in sound BA210-3 vs BA210-3 slant?

Mybe should i change my 12-3 slt to 210-3. Slt or regular one?
//I has BA12-3 slant, only 1 pc, i feel its edgy (maybe too new, need to run-in), has 112T too, which more smooth feeling for me.//
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@LukiLaci --- thank you for your questions and for your purchase of our BA12-3 SLT. Regarding this question, the components of both BA210-3 SLT and BA210-3 STR are the same, just the cabinet design (slant or straight). With the Slant design, yes you will hear more top end due to the speaker baffle pointing up towards you. Also the low frequencies and nearly identical but the "feel" of the SLANT version seems "cleaner" is the best way I can put it. There is less "turbulence" in the tone because there are less standing waves inside the cabinet. If you wanted a more "rounder" bottom end, maybe the STRAIGHT version would be good as you're considering the BA210-3 cabinets.
I hope this helps.
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
The F3 (-3dB) point is approx 48 Hz and we use a +/- 10dB frequency range.
Obviously the usable frequency range is way below that point, offering exceptionally strong support of the B-string of premium instruments.
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