Genzler Amplification Club

[SteveC]

The BA cabs are awesome, but I have gone to the MG12T-V with my MG350 (as a combo) and have found it to be an amazing combo. I like that I can adjust the tweeter, and the combo has been loud enough for my gigs so far. I also like that the amp is up a little higher so it's easier to make adjustments. Granted I use it mostly for jazz and singer/songwriter type gigs, but I do use it outside often and its amazingly loud and full. I think this combo is actually easier to transport than the MG350/BA10-2 combo - which I had before. Certainly easier than the MG800/BA12-3 I started with before I went down to the MG350/BA10-2 combo.

After a few outdoor gigs, I felt like I needed just a little more than the BA10-2 was giving. I debated getting another BA10-2 as that seemed logical, but Jeff suggested I wait as he was coming out with something that might interest me. An MG12T-V showed up on my door and after a few gigs the BA10-2 went on to someone else. I know that the BA cabs are all the rage, and they are amazing, but don't overlook the MG cabs - especially if you were a fan of the old Genz Benz stuff - which I played for years before Jeff came out with his new stuff. A stack of 2 MG12T-V cabs would be a formidable rig.

Just something to think about.

 

[berman3313]

In another thread, someone said they use the Nordstrand Starlifter as a pre and use the MG800 amp. Anyone here have experience with that or similar?

 

[Djadja]

Hi, everyone, I've been searching for an answer on this, but couldn't find much that was real-world experience. I considered buying the Magellan 800, but I settled on the little 10-2 BA slanted 1-speaker combo with the Magellan 350 amp (all these numbers get confusing so hopefully I described it clearly). My other amps are higher wattage (most often a Trickfish Bullhead), so I figured go smaller. I love it! And now I want one more speaker cabinet for the little combo, but wondering which one... I was thinking just get another slanted 10-2, but has anyone paired the 10-2 with a 12-3 or 15-3 and had success? Normally, I don't mix sizes, but figured that would give the most versatility? My instruments mostly are electric 5 strings, if that affects the answer.

Sorry it took me a bit to chime in.

I have a 10-2 and a 12-3. They play together quite nicely although as you would expect, the 12-3 contributes more to the overall sound than the 10-2. Pre-covid, I only played them together to see how it worked. I never needed more than the 12-3 for any of my gigs and I love that cab. The 10-2 was relegated to home practice and a rare small acoustic gig. After covid, the church I worked at did worship outside (masked and distanced). I found that I preferred using both cabs outside even though I was not playing any louder. It just worked better to my ears.
If I had to choose one... it would be the 12-3. Two... any combo. I expect with two of the same cab you get better coupling which would be a positive. The portability of the 10-2 is so good. You can’t make a bad choice.
FYI, the Trickfish was the other head I considered when choosing the Magellan 800. It is a great sounding amp.

 

[Basslehem]

The BA cabs are awesome, but I have gone to the MG12T-V with my MG350 (as a combo) and have found it to be an amazing combo. I like that I can adjust the tweeter, and the combo has been loud enough for my gigs so far. I also like that the amp is up a little higher so it's easier to make adjustments. Granted I use it mostly for jazz and singer/songwriter type gigs, but I do use it outside often and its amazingly loud and full. I think this combo is actually easier to transport than the MG350/BA10-2 combo - which I had before. Certainly easier than the MG800/BA12-3 I started with before I went down to the MG350/BA10-2 combo.

After a few outdoor gigs, I felt like I needed just a little more than the BA10-2 was giving. I debated getting another BA10-2 as that seemed logical, but Jeff suggested I wait as he was coming out with something that might interest me. An MG12T-V showed up on my door and after a few gigs the BA10-2 went on to someone else. I know that the BA cabs are all the rage, and they are amazing, but don't overlook the MG cabs - especially if you were a fan of the old Genz Benz stuff - which I played for years before Jeff came out with his new stuff. A stack of 2 MG12T-V cabs would be a formidable rig.

Just something to think about.

Is there a padded cover for MG12T-V combo (with the head attached)?

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Is there a padded cover for MG12T-V combo (with the head attached)?

Yes, there is. Please email me from our website and I can assist. It is a cab cover with a pouch attached to the top that covers the head when mounted.

 

[berman3313]

Any word on Genzler amplification T-shirts?

If you are a small size and rock the OG thing - this is over at Reverb

 

[DingwallDingus]

I just realized there was a foot switch available for the MG800 today, buying it immediately haha. Very fairly priced and looks quite durable compared to some guitar amp foot switches.

As for the array cabs, I'm going with 3 of the 12-3s. Not sure what combo of straight and slant I want yet so if anyone has any opinion on that please let me hear it.

 

[PercyThrillingt]

I just want to say "Hello" to the Genzler Amplification Club - because I'm a member here since today ... I found a used Magellan 800 - an amp I've always wanted to test ....

And so I did, and the Genzler does a great job especially in the duel against my Glockenklang Steamhammer ... I like the natural voicing of the Magellan, it doesn's sound boomy in the bass-frequencys (maybe there's a high-pass-filter?) and the variations of the contour-section (which reminds of the VLE/VPF-knobs of Markbass) ...

Just two questions:
1.) As I understand the contour-section is always "on" - but not active when the knob is on "flat"-position ?

2.) Parametric-mid-section: Anyone checked it out, where the "important" frequencys like 300, 500 or 800 hz are (in clock-hand-mode)?

 

[SteveC]

Is there a padded cover for MG12T-V combo (with the head attached)?

Apparently there is. I wonder if I should get one. I’ll have to check with Jeff.

 

[Loring]

I just realized there was a foot switch available for the MG800 today, buying it immediately haha. Very fairly priced and looks quite durable compared to some guitar amp foot switches.

As for the array cabs, I'm going with 3 of the 12-3s. Not sure what combo of straight and slant I want yet so if anyone has any opinion on that please let me hear it.

I have 3 x 12-3's and they are str, slt, str. The only reason they are that way is I found a used STR for a good price. Eventually I will find a 12 SLT for a good price and I will change it to the SLT, STR, SLT. I haven't compared them sonically but it will send the sound upwards slightly more and TBH I like the way it looks!

 

[Loring]

I just want to say "Hello" to the Genzler Amplification Club - because I'm a member here since today ... I found a used Magellan 800 - an amp I've always wanted to test ....

And so I did, and the Genzler does a great job especially in the duel against my Glockenklang Steamhammer ... I like the natural voicing of the Magellan, it doesn's sound boomy in the bass-frequencys (maybe there's a high-pass-filter?) and the variations of the contour-section (which reminds of the VLE/VPF-knobs of Markbass) ...

Just two questions:
1.) As I understand the contour-section is always "on" - but not active when the knob is on "flat"-position ?

2.) Parametric-mid-section: Anyone checked it out, where the "important" frequencys like 300, 500 or 800 hz are (in clock-hand-mode)?

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If by Flat position you mean all the way counter clockwise then yes.
Some pots are considered flat in the 12 o'clock position - in that case no - that would be a fair amount of contour.

There were discussions on that a while back in here and I will say the same thing I said back then. We can find where the numbers are but - they aren't as important as how it sounds. By this I mean - if you want a little cut (or boost) dial it in and fish for the frequency that sounds the best - every bass is a little different and you may be doing yourself a disservice by just grabbing an arbitrary number. I used a looper a dialled till it sounded the way I liked.

If you don't have a looper then you can play a bit, tweak, play a bit, tweak and so on. I found I ended up doing a bit of that anyways once I was on stage as what sounds good in isolation isn't always what sounds good in a mix with other instruments.

Having said that - there was discussion as to where the halfway point on the mid sweep was.

 

[DingwallDingus]

I have 3 x 12-3's and they are str, slt, str. The only reason they are that way is I found a used STR for a good price. Eventually I will find a 12 SLT for a good price and I will change it to the SLT, STR, SLT. I haven't compared them sonically but it will send the sound upwards slightly more and TBH I like the way it looks!

Thank you, Jeff sold me on SLT, STR, SLT in a private message. Didn't realize that was what I was looking at in that particular photo and it looks killer.

All my money is going into bass gear for the foreseeable future haha, was gonna get an electric guitar but my passion for bass has been reignited.

What is your main bass if you don't mind me asking?

 

[tombowlus]

I have 3 x 12-3's and they are str, slt, str. The only reason they are that way is I found a used STR for a good price. Eventually I will find a 12 SLT for a good price and I will change it to the SLT, STR, SLT. I haven't compared them sonically but it will send the sound upwards slightly more and TBH I like the way it looks!

+1 Great setup!

 

[Jamie Hale]

Sorry it took me a bit to chime in.

I have a 10-2 and a 12-3. They play together quite nicely although as you would expect, the 12-3 contributes more to the overall sound than the 10-2. Pre-covid, I only played them together to see how it worked. I never needed more than the 12-3 for any of my gigs and I love that cab. The 10-2 was relegated to home practice and a rare small acoustic gig. After covid, the church I worked at did worship outside (masked and distanced). I found that I preferred using both cabs outside even though I was not playing any louder. It just worked better to my ears.
If I had to choose one... it would be the 12-3. Two... any combo. I expect with two of the same cab you get better coupling which would be a positive. The portability of the 10-2 is so good. You can’t make a bad choice.
FYI, the Trickfish was the other head I considered when choosing the Magellan 800. It is a great sounding amp.

Thanks much, for this confirmation! I am planning to get the 12-3, to have the most versatility in a small footprint. I do love cabinets I can lift with one hand, on days when my back is hurting from my day job.

 

[Jamie Hale]

Also, I wanted to say how thankful I am that the discussion after my question has been so positive. I have seen that others asked similarly, so I am figuring mine was a bit redundant. On some forums, that can get a lot of sniping, but I find Talkbass around either Sandberg, Trickfish, or Genzler is very welcoming and sharing. Be well, everyone.

 

[Jamvan]

Thanks much, for this confirmation! I am planning to get the 12-3, to have the most versatility in a small footprint. I do love cabinets I can lift with one hand, on days when my back is hurting from my day job.

I’m still surprised every time I pick up the 12T-V and almost throw it through the ceiling!

 

[Jeff Genzler]

I just want to say "Hello" to the Genzler Amplification Club - because I'm a member here since today ... I found a used Magellan 800 - an amp I've always wanted to test ....

And so I did, and the Genzler does a great job especially in the duel against my Glockenklang Steamhammer ... I like the natural voicing of the Magellan, it doesn's sound boomy in the bass-frequencys (maybe there's a high-pass-filter?) and the variations of the contour-section (which reminds of the VLE/VPF-knobs of Markbass) ...

Just two questions:
1.) As I understand the contour-section is always "on" - but not active when the knob is on "flat"-position ?

2.) Parametric-mid-section: Anyone checked it out, where the "important" frequencys like 300, 500 or 800 hz are (in clock-hand-mode)?

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@PercyThrillingt --- welcome to the Club. To answer your questions, here is some info you might appreciate.
The CONTOUR circuit is has NO impact to the frequency response when it is in the full OFF position ----- the control all the way to the left.
And regarding your questions about frequency locations around the mid control, here is an approximation. We with all pot controls there are some variances when rotating the control.
9:00-->200Hz; 10:00-->300Hz; 11:00-->500Hz; 12:00-->650Hz; 1:00-->800Hz; 2:00-->1KHz; 3:00-->1.5KHz.

As always I recommend using your ear for fine tuning frequencies to cut or boost.

 

[jjk2007]

Also, I wanted to say how thankful I am that the discussion after my question has been so positive. I have seen that others asked similarly, so I am figuring mine was a bit redundant. On some forums, that can get a lot of sniping, but I find Talkbass around either Sandberg, Trickfish, or Genzler is very welcoming and sharing. Be well, everyone.

We all just love talking about our awesome Genzler gear!!

 

[Sodbuster]

Speaking of awesome Genzler gear, my BA210-3 SLT is now available after I fell in love with the MG12T-V

 

[PercyThrillingt]

.... There were discussions on that a while back in here and I will say the same thing I said back then. We can find where the numbers are but - they aren't as important as how it sounds. By this I mean - if you want a little cut (or boost) dial it in and fish for the frequency that sounds the best - every bass is a little different and you may be doing yourself a disservice by just grabbing an arbitrary number. I used a looper a dialled till it sounded the way I liked.....

Thank you for your reply, @Loring .... you're absolutely right - the best way to find the best bass-sound is to trust our ears ... because this depends on several things like the instrument, the cab, the room and the band-sound ...

@PercyThrillingt --- welcome to the Club. To answer your questions, here is some info you might appreciate. ... .

Thank you for your reply, @Jeff Genzler ... these are very interesting informations - and in some details similar to my tech-talk with the Aguilar-support a few month earlier ...

I always thought my sweet-spot on parametric-mid-controls are 500 hz (1 or 2 o'clock) ... as I received the mid-frequency-informations from Aguilar to my surprise my favourite mid-point is about 700 or 800 hz ...

Same with my new Magellan 800: at the first tests it turned out that I like the sound best, when the mid-frequency-knob is at 12 o'clock ... and surprise: once again there are my 700/800 hz ...